Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 2

[PolkSaladAnnie]

same here, that's why i think the reports are 'off' somewhat....i'm thinking that 10:30 pm is when the friends left, but they were there when Jason left for business.....i soooo want to know when the friends say he left the house that evening....it's almost driving me nuts!

Well let's see, Close ...

What time does Greys Anatomy finish (NC local time)?

The friends were all still there: other reports mention 10:30.

EVEN if he left at 9. To stop over and be checked in by 11 is still too close to home.

I used to have my product printed 4- 5 hrs from my home-city. I'd leave at 4:30 am and arrive by 10 to see production. Over 6 years, there were at least a dozen occasions I drove there/back in the same day. Esp if I was by myself - and I'd only stop over if I had company in my car ... as more of a reassurance to them than me (I'm a get-there-get-on-with-it person).

To stop even an hour half away is odd: why not leave early am? Ooops, I concede: it all depends on what folk are used to. My hubby's fam are in UK and his fam stop after 3 hrs to over night.... en route a perceived 'long' journey.

 

[close_enough]

No way!!! Man, this guy has GUILTY written all over him.

i'm trying VERY hard here, Nan, but i have to say i agree with you....truly trying to not hang this guy for this, before he's even arrested/charged & tried in a court of law....very hard to do though....

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

someone posted somewhere...."i'll freak out if a blonde message therapist comes into the picture next"......lol, ain't THAT the truth!

OHMYG... and I think it was either Boyz_Mom or Taximom (where ARE they??) that wrote : "all the while being taped by the mistress as he talks"...

Are there any more TV talk shows pipped to host this case? I am actually surprised Larry King hasn't gathered a team onto his panel. I went off him after a while - he sided with the defense too often.

 

[close_enough]

Well let's see, Close ...

What time does Greys Anatomy finish (NC local time)?

The friends were all still there: other reports mention 10:30.

EVEN if he left at 9. To stop over and be checked in by 11 is still too close to home.

I used to have my product printed 4- 5 hrs from my home-city. I'd leave at 4:30 am and arrive by 10 to see production. Over 6 years, there were at least a dozen occasions I drove there/back in the same day. Esp if I was by myself - and I'd only stop over if I had company in my car ... as more of a reassurance to them than me (I'm a get-there-get-on-with-it person).

To stop even an hour half away is odd: why not leave early am? Ooops, I concede: it all depends on what folk are used to. My hubby's fam are in UK and his fam stop after 3 hrs to over night.... en route a perceived 'long' journey.

oh gosh..i don't watch the show, but it's very popular, so i'm sure someone in the thread watches it????....i don't even keep a TV Guide anymore, since the little show roster rolls 24/7 on cable.....

well, here i go again....IF Jason's business was in the lower part of VA, he COULD have been at the destination within 2 hours...i looked up a couple of spots in VA yesterday for travel time....(course that's just pulling towns out of the air)

i consider a 5 hour drive as long, myself, BUT not long enough to stop over somewhere & sleep...

 

[packerdog]

I wonder if the reason he called at 11:00 is because he wanted to make sure that her company had left and what time she was planning on going to bed.

 

[Masissy]

oh gosh..i don't watch the show, but it's very popular, so i'm sure someone in the thread watches it????....i don't even keep a TV Guide anymore, since the little show roster rolls 24/7 on cable.....

well, here i go again....IF Jason's business was in the lower part of VA, he COULD have been at the destination within 2 hours...i looked up a couple of spots in VA yesterday for travel time....(course that's just pulling towns out of the air)

i consider a 5 hour drive as long, myself, BUT not long enough to stop over somewhere & sleep...

If Raleigh is Central Time it goes off at 9:00 PM, if they are Eastern Time it is 10:00 PM.

 

[close_enough]

OK...Grey's Anatomy comes on at 9 pm eastern time, soooo that would make sense that the friends left around 10:30..it's an hour long show....

 

[close_enough]

If Raleigh is Central Time it goes off at 9:00 PM, if they are Eastern Time it is 10:00 PM.

yep yep, Masissy.....all of that area on up there is Eastern time....

 

[jilly]

hi jilly
....i'm all turned around here with this thread/threads, lol (& i haven't had a beer yet either)....apparently he left before the friends left that Thursday night....in MY mind, i'm guessing 9-ish, but that's not been stated anywhere...just my guess

Thanks for responding Close. Was it you who commented about sunglasses on the other gentleman with Jason at the funeral? I noticed that too - but guess what! His father had them on as well....just the men....none of the women. It struck me as odd because it looked like a scene from Men in Black.

Haha - I think I'm getting desperate for something to talk about here!

 

[jilly]

I wonder if the reason he called at 11:00 is because he wanted to make sure that her company had left and what time she was planning on going to bed.

That's a good point packerdog - and maybe to ensure that one of the friends wasn't going to be staying over so she wouldn't be alone.

 

[close_enough]

I wonder if the reason he called at 11:00 is because he wanted to make sure that her company had left and what time she was planning on going to bed.

could be, if he planned this, he would want to make sure his destination jived with this (supposed) 11 pm phone call....it would fit if he stopped somewhere before he got to Brevard (like 2 or so hours away) to sleep, AND it would fit if the 'business' was only a couple of hours away, in VA too.....

not sure how i came to this conclusion, but i think i read somewhere that this gathering of friends, to watch Grey's Anatomy, was a weekly thing...i would think he already had a pretty good idea of when the gathering breaks up ....

 

[jilly]

My hubby's fam are in UK and his fam stop after 3 hrs to over night.... en route a perceived 'long' journey.

LOL No kidding! - :laugh: "the long journey"! And with my relatives that would have been on a Sunday - the only day the car came out of the garage! hehe!

 

[close_enough]

Thanks for responding Close. Was it you who commented about sunglasses on the other gentleman with Jason at the funeral? I noticed that too - but guess what! His father had them on as well....just the men....none of the women. It struck me as odd because it looked like a scene from Men in Black.

Haha - I think I'm getting desperate for something to talk about here!

aahh, ok then.....i saw it, but i guess my mind kinda stuck on the rather handsome guy walking beside JY, lol.....it was kinda weird, because from the angle, it was a little hard to even see JY, because the cutie guy was walking sort of to the side of him, blocking the view of JY....at least in the footage i saw ...

lol @Men in Black.....

 

[raisincharlie]

PSA,

I think it is worth discussing all of your items. Please understand that some of my responses may seem to defend JY - but that is not really my intent - I'm trying to be a Spock about it.


1. Jason leaving (as reported) 10:30pm for an estimated 5-hr drive. Witnessed by many, with his suitcases.
2. He then books a motel to break the journey.
3. He checks in and calls home at 11 pm
4. That bugs me. 30 minutes out of town and he's stopping over?
First - I'm not sure I recall it being reported that JY left at 1030 - I do recall it being reported that the friends had left at 1030. However, assuming he left at 10:30 - nothing you have listed thereafter makes any sense and I would agree with you - something is major hinky with that. OTOH - say JY left earlier - 7 or 8 - the above makes some sense if his business meeting was located a 5 hour drive away. Essentially cutting the drive time considerably and allowing for a reasonable rest before the meeting.

5. He arrives at his parents earliest 2 pm (as it was 1:30 when Meredith called 911)
6. He'd called Meredith to collect a fax as JY didn't want MY to see it.
7. It was a 'surprise gift'.

Honestly - I think him calling Meredith to go get the fax isn't all that bad in perspective. What bothers me the most about it is why the fax would have been sent in the first place ? If he knew it was coming - that indicates to me he had been in contact with the company sending the fax - why didn't he just say I'll be out of town til Monday - its a surprise - please don't send before Monday. In my mind this is what tells me the so called fax or whatever about the surprise gift was part of some plan. He knew that fax was coming which means to me he had contact with the company - he knew his wife would access it before he returned home - why not have it delayed until he could retrieve it himself ? This is what sets my hinky meter off and pretty much IMO opinion negates any claim that his call to Meridith to retrieve this fax was anything more than a way for someone else to enter that home.

8. We don't know exactly when he had his business meeting; if at all.
9. Family (Internet posts, rather) are saying business in VA and 'swung' by his parents en route there - or home (still to be clarified).

We don't know anything about the business meeting - but one thing I can say is that the posters claiming he went to VA and then swung by his folks - they must be idiots IMO. Wufdude has clearly stated that Brevard is in the southern portion of N.C. - last time I looked at a map - Virginia is north of N.C. These claims seem to me to be ignorant beyond belief and I did not just fall off the turnip wagon. In fact if family and friends are generating these rumors in an effort to make him look innocent - they are doing a fine job of making things look more onerous if one thinks about it.

10. His step-dad knew of the death before JY - who fell to the ground.
11. JY's fam travel back with him: all luggage/car impounded.
12. First thing - JY gets top lawyer; comms to LE stop forthwith.
13. Court requires JY to submit DNA samples (etc)
14. Funeral: JY distances himself from LE, MY's family; gives no obit at funeral
No real thoughts on the above.

15. Vanishes. It's believed Cassidy with him.

One thing about this - I think the little girl is probably safe because if anything - anything at all happens to her now - JY can absolutely pack his bags for the big house. I also suspect - surveillance is an active art of this investigation.

16. Rumours abound; nothing is confirmed - hearsay on both sides.
17. MY's family strip all pics of JY off MY's website.

Rumors well, take them for what they are worth - not much. I don't know for sure that the pictures of JY were removed from the website by MY's family. I'm not sure the website is even working or the circumstances of its initial invention. It may have been strictly a temporary site and this could just mean time is up or it could have been closed by the owner, whoever that might be. So I think it might be best to not read much into that unless the site comes back up and indeed all the pictures have been altered - then we can read something into that.

18. LE states JY not a suspect - they do not have a suspect.

I believe that LE has a suspect or suspects - they can't say that until they can feel they can prove it. LE is now expected to do an incredibly difficult job under the realm of political correctness - which is bull caca IMO but that is how our world has changed. I'm patient - I believe they will name their suspect and subsequently arrest the suspect. The claim they made that it was not random clearly indicates to me they have someone or someone(s) in mind. I do not find it unusual that they have not interviewed JY - he has a lawyer - no lawyer is going to allow that if it can be avoided. I also suspect that the court order issued for samples allowed LE to take a look at his body, at least the articles indicate that is permissable under the order - I bet they took a good look while they had that chance.

I don't want to wait for answers but I would much rather wait and have the LE complete investigations and tie up the loose ends before they react. I think there are two statements from LE that have a large bearing on how this is going - it was not random and there was no forced entry. We shall see and I suspect it will be sooner rather than later, where this goes.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

I wonder if the reason he called at 11:00 is because he wanted to make sure that her company had left and what time she was planning on going to bed.

Packer, you're braver than me - or you're saying the things I want to post but am holding back.

Either way... I feel the proximity of the motel to the Young home will be telling along with complete phone records; and, fwiw, there's something so strong, so deep inside of me ... ag. Probably history dictating. Strach's posts have made me force myself to take a deep breath. It's difficult...

I mean for goodness sakes: if this was a carefully planned thing - he had all the accessories to cover the fact. Who would have thought to check his suitcases? What if everything he needed was in those, including 'clean up stuff'? No telling, I agree.

I'd far rather be 100% wrong and that way Jason joins Mark L and Klaas etc - in being 100% right. To get there, no stone unturned. None.

 

[close_enough]

Please understand that some of my responses may seem to defend JY - but that is not really my intent - I'm trying to be a Spock about it.

....oooooh, looks like great reading, but i need to get a couple of things squared away here, but i'll be back

i love it that you're "trying to be a Spock about it"...no problem w/me at all...i like reading everything about this case...all opinions...makes me think even harder, lol....

 

[Taximom]

OHMYG... and I think it was either Boyz_Mom or Taximom (where ARE they??) that wrote : "all the while being taped by the mistress as he talks"...

Are there any more TV talk shows pipped to host this case? I am actually surprised Larry King hasn't gathered a team onto his panel. I went off him after a while - he sided with the defense too often.

Waving Hi!

I'm here. You know how real life keeps going no matter what crime I want to solve is being discussed!

Thanks for the new thread too, MrsMush. This one is moving right along!

 

[wufdude]

1. Jason leaving (as reported) 10:30pm for an estimated 5-hr drive. Witnessed by many, with his suitcases.
2. He then books a motel to break the journey.
3. He checks in and calls home at 11 pm
4. That bugs me. 30 minutes out of town and he's stopping over?
5. He arrives at his parents earliest 2 pm (as it was 1:30 when Meredith called 911)
6. He'd called Meredith to collect a fax as JY didn't want MY to see it.
7. It was a 'surprise gift'.
8. We don't know exactly when he had his business meeting; if at all.
9. Family (Internet posts, rather) are saying business in VA and 'swung' by his parents en route there - or home (still to be clarified).

Good points here. No way does someone just swing by Brevard on a trip back from Virginia to Raleigh. Brevard is near the southwest tip of NC, very close to GA. There is not a logical location in VA that would justify a trip to Brevard on the way back to Raleigh.

 

[packerdog]

What I would like to know is what time did Jason call Meredith to get the fax. Did she go there as soon as he called? Did she go hours later?

 

[Taximom]

I do have a problem with Jason reportedly "falling to his knees" upon hearing about his wife's demise. Here I go again with what I would do, but I'm pretty sure I'd look at the messenger (since it's not a cop) and say "Whaaaa?" and ask a lot of questions and maybe then go crazy.


Of course, maybe he did do all this and his stepfather skipped that part.