Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 2

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Okay - I've moved the map a bit - the red dot in upper right corner, brown turn around in upper left corner. Now if you go southeast from the brown spot you will see the Young house - it is the second house in the picture

http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?T=4&S=9&Z=17&X=7079&Y=39535&W=1&qs=5108+Birchleaf+Drive%7cRaleigh%7cNC%7c&Addr=5108+Birchleaf+Dr%2c+Raleigh%2c+NC+27606-9360&ALon=-78.6999990&ALat=35.7051710

And yes that looks like a good spot to stop, park a car, and go for a walk from - bet it is also very dark at night.

yeah, it would be dark for sure....the moon was 91% full that night.......

yeah..someone go ahead & slap me...i need to stop thinking about this dirt area, LOL.....

 

[raisincharlie]

yeah, it would be dark for sure....the moon was 91% full that night.......

yeah..someone go ahead & slap me...i need to stop thinking about this dirt area, LOL.....

:slap: :slap: :slap: Happy now ?

 

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None of the above - just curious ! You are right - that turn around spot would be a very good place to take a walk from - no way some one is going to see you and how much traffic could there be there between midnight and 6 am ?

lol..ok cool

& that's what i was thinking..."how much traffic could there be there betw midnight and 6 am?"

 

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:slap: :slap: :slap: Happy now ?

YES!!!......LOL, thanks...i needed that

 

[concernedperson]

lol..ok cool

& that's what i was thinking..."how much traffic could there be there betw midnight and 6 am?"

And, that my dear Watson, is why they want to know about any vehicles spotted in the area. I think LE is pretty on their way with this case and we are just catching up.JMO.

 

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I think there are a combination of things here so I'll add a couple - I'm going to try to speak without offending anyone but if I do - please accept my apology in advance. I know I shouldn't go here - no Dr. Rufus but.

I agree, responsibility often equates to money, how well is the family cared for, can my wife and kids have what they need and want, how many toys can I still have and can I have the time and space to enjoy my toys ? That sounds a tad selfish but it really isn't. Boys are raised wanting and needing toys - it doesn't exactly ever go away.

Independence - as boys we are raised a bit more independently - it is a difficult aspect to surrender as it may be directly impacted by the addition of more immediate family. Some men may see the addition of a wife as a wonderful thing but as the children come, the independence and freedoms appear to decrease. Some can handle it, some can't - like everything it is what you make of it.

Strong, independent women are an incredible aphrodisiac IMO - can't speak for other fellows. Generally most aphrodisiacs wane over time however. But problems often can arise if the male ego starts feeling a bit small in comparison or challenged. This however IMO is entirely dependent on the fellow and his own sense of security with himself. Some think they can deal with a strong independent partner but find out too late they cannot. I do know guys that have trouble with their wife making more money than they do. Again, some can handle it, some can not.

Just a couple of thoughts. Don't kill me fella's.

i won't kill ya....interesting thoughts...

some men, (in the bold letters) begin to actually hate their wives, in this situation....i see what you're saying....

 

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And, that my dear Watson, is why they want to know about any vehicles spotted in the area. I think LE is pretty on their way with this case and we are just catching up.JMO.

CP :blowkiss:
i have a feeling you're right....

girl, i haven't been 'like this' since the Peterson (west) case....

edited to correct which Peterson....although i followed the M Peterson trial....

 

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(comment by otto)
I'm leaning towards the whole idea of Jason being the follower and Michelle being the energy in the marriage.

i meant to add to my last post; i picture it this way also, from the article that Taximom posted earlier today...

 

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http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/511581.html

bumping this link that Taximom posted earlier....long article, but there's info that's been updated, for those that can't hang around 'here' practically 24/7

plus this thread is moving extremely fast, & i'm afraid it'll get lost.....

 

[concernedperson]

CP :blowkiss:
i have a feeling you're right....

girl, i haven't been 'like this' since the Peterson (west) case....

edited to correct which Peterson....although i followed the M Peterson trial....

I think we are pretty up too. Been there done that. Too many inconsistancies to believe the standard and not enough info to draw the all important parameters but we are close. Good to have local info as to mindset and the disinformation coming from the campaign. Gives the whole case a different perspective.

Michelle deserves everyone's attention. Whoever did this should never breath an ounce of fresh air again. The baby deserves the same even though NC doesn't recognize fetal murder. It does exist and this is not about abortion rights..it is about a parent that was pregnant and wanted the child. Bless both of them and her family as they grieve through this terrible time.

 

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I was thinking the same thing, don't feel bad. We're only human. It's logical for some of us to assume these things. No lambasting from me

....it wasn't that i was assuming it, just that it popped into my head after reading that.....

one of those little 'lightbulbs' in my head went off, so to speak, lol....

 

[otto]

http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/511581.html

bumping this link that Taximom posted earlier....long article, but there's info that's been updated, for those that can't hang around 'here' practically 24/7

plus this thread is moving extremely fast, & i'm afraid it'll get lost.....

This comment caught my attention: "Michelle, a spirited dancer, was showing off her moves. Jason Young, not as smooth, hung out near the bar. Michelle pulled him out on the dance floor."

Speculating here, but ... He wasn't an outgoing party guy but it seems liked to be in the bar at the bar. He seems like a quiet guy (particularly given the above description) and Michelle seems to have set her sights on him. I suppose it was all good. Then she got pregnant and then they got married. Then they had a child and then she was pregnant with their second. Then they were involved in a car accident and she lost the child because it stopped growing. Finally, she became pregnant again and this time she and her unborn baby lost their lives. It could be that he just felt that his life was being managed in a way that he didn't like. Whose idea was it for him to change jobs, I wonder. I'd like to know what he was doing prior to three months ago, when he became a traveling salesman. The quiet guy that would rather stand at the bar and watch the fun doesn't strike me as the type that wants to go door to door selling medical chart software - unless he has no choice.

 

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I think we are pretty up too. Been there done that. Too many inconsistancies to believe the standard and not enough info to draw the all important parameters but we are close. Good to have local info as to mindset and the disinformation coming from the campaign. Gives the whole case a different perspective.

Michelle deserves everyone's attention. Whoever did this should never breath an ounce of fresh air again. The baby deserves the same even though NC doesn't recognize fetal murder. It does exist and this is not about abortion rights..it is about a parent that was pregnant and wanted the child. Bless both of them and her family as they grieve through this terrible time.

oh i agree CP... with your entire post!

 

[concernedperson]

This comment caught my attention: "Michelle, a spirited dancer, was showing off her moves. Jason Young, not as smooth, hung out near the bar. Michelle pulled him out on the dance floor."

Speculating here, but ... He wasn't an outgoing party guy but it seems liked to be in the bar at the bar. He seems like a quiet guy (particularly given the above description) and Michelle seems to have set her sights on him. I suppose it was all good. Then she got pregnant and then they got married. Then they had a child and then she was pregnant with their second. Then they were involved in a car accident and she lost the child because it stopped growing. Finally, she became pregnant again and this time she and her unborn baby lost their lives. It could be that he just felt that his life was being managed in a way that he didn't like. Whose idea was it for him to change jobs, I wonder. I'd like to know what he was doing prior to three months ago, when he became a traveling salesman. The quiet guy that would rather stand at the bar and watch the fun doesn't strike me as the type that wants to go door to door selling medical chart software - unless he has no choice.

Bingo. He was resentful and he fell back on his parents in a time of crisis. He was a weak link but how weak? Did this anger catapult him? I think he was in for the laid back no responsibility aspect but bolted when the real deal came along. Slap me hard. I am just with this thinking now. I am also looking at the planning aspect.

I think he likes management with his parents in the drivers seat. JMO. I hope I am wrong.

 

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This comment caught my attention: "Michelle, a spirited dancer, was showing off her moves. Jason Young, not as smooth, hung out near the bar. Michelle pulled him out on the dance floor."

Speculating here, but ... He wasn't an outgoing party guy but it seems liked to be in the bar at the bar. He seems like a quiet guy (particularly given the above description) and Michelle seems to have set her sights on him. I suppose it was all good. Then she got pregnant and then they got married. Then they had a child and then she was pregnant with their second. Then they were involved in a car accident and she lost the child because it stopped growing. Finally, she became pregnant again and this time she and her unborn baby lost their lives. It could be that he just felt that his life was being managed in a way that he didn't like. Whose idea was it for him to change jobs, I wonder. I'd like to know what he was doing prior to three months ago, when he became a traveling salesman. The quiet guy that would rather stand at the bar and watch the fun doesn't strike me as the type that wants to go door to door selling medical chart software - unless he has no choice.

you're right.......i hadn't thought of that when i read that in the article....

i'll give a bit of personal info here.....my oldest son is a "salesman"...he has an area he travels...meets lots of people, & he's not the quiet guy at all.....

 

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Well lets hope Jason wasn't acting when he did the same thing. I know when my ex lost his little 8 year old sister suddenly, when they came and told us he passed out in the yard and fell straight back striking his head on a concrete planter and had to have stitches.

So I am hoping for Cassidy's sake and all that loved Michelle and the baby that his grief is genuine.

Has there been any news about an arrest yet? I noticed they checked the trailer park today, right?

IMO

Ocean

yes, they did Ocean....i read that earlier ...Topsail's post

 

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Bingo. He was resentful and he fell back on his parents in a time of crisis. He was a weak link but how weak? Did this anger catapult him? I think he was in for the laid back no responsibility aspect but bolted when the real deal came along. Slap me hard. I am just with this thinking now. I am also looking at the planning aspect.

I think he likes management with his parents in the drivers seat. JMO. I hope I am wrong.

Going home to mom and dad at the age of 31 is certainly something to wonder about. Since the house has been released as a crime scene, I wonder how long it will take for him to go home, or if he'll just liquidate and move on.

 

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Remember SP's phone message to Laci on his way home from the Marina? He even called her 'sweetie' I believe.

fran

ooooooh, yes...(shivers)...

didn't he also say "hey beautiful"............ :furious:

 

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Yeah, and beautiful too. :furious:

yeah :furious:

 

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You're welcome and Hello . I'm sure hoping something comes up soon. I was thinking since it took them two weeks to process the crime scene it shouldn't be too much longer now. I didn't see the interview with our Sherriff but I can say from knowledge of him (he lives right down the road from me) he LOVES his community and is very involved here. There are many many cases no matter how small or large that he will personally get up in the middle of the night to go to the scene. He's very involved in our county. I want to think he's keeping quiet because he wants to make sure we don't have the same issues as the Duke case - I want to believe that he learned A LOT from the way that case was handled. I'm not totally sure but I do believe Michelle's case has been one of the most heinous/gruesome crimes this county has seen in a long time (going on my short term memory LOL). Sherriff Harrison is a smart man and I do believe that he has his ducks in a row and we will be seeing an arrest soon. Oh and by the way just as a note - there's a local radio station here that does a "Wake County's most wanted". Sherriff Harrison is very involved in that program and has resulted in quite a few people being arrested because of his involvement. I have every belief that he will remain tight lipped until he has enough to arrest and make a solid case against whoever committed this crime.

good deal!...good to know Topsail!