Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 3

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  • #481
You're right Strach, as it says the proposal would apply only to federal crimes, such as terror attacks, interstate stalking or cases that occur on military bases or federal land.

States have to deal with it on their own I guess.

Scandi
 
  • #482
jilly said:
Thank you RC for pointing this out (again). I guess we can only hope that he had the phone turned on.

Hi Jilly,

The hostess on Greta stated that his phone had a GPS on it so it did not have to be in use to be tracked. She must have had info on it specificly, right, to say that in the broadcast if it was out of the norm.

Scandi
 
  • #483
Well goodnight to PSA and RC and for anyone still up and reading I thought the state trooper that investigated the accident said there had been a lot of accidents there but didn't say fatalities so it's possible desperate people do desperate things. Cassidy not being in the car though is another coincidence to add to what is already a mounting pile. :waitasec:

I remember from the Peterson trial that LE had to get court orders for the cell phone records and at trial the testimony about all that with dates and everything just seemed to me to take a very long time before LE could get some of those.
 
  • #484
Strach, there is a poster at CTV who is going to find out where she read that Melissa's seat belt was not on when the accident occured. We'll have to keep a watch on that.
 
  • #485
jilly said:
That was me speculating incorrectly! :banghead: Now that you mention it, I do remember Peterson, his phone and the towers but I just didn't connect the GPS with it somehow.
oh dont bash yourself! I still bash myself cause all of this elcetronic, gps, cell phone tower, plasma tv, you name it they got it stuff---and i dont get it !:crazy:
 
  • #486
scandi said:
:slap: me if you want to, but I've just read todays posts at CTV and thought I'd keep us abreast on anything new that they learn. Hope this is OK with you guys, and everything is in my own words except this promo for the NG show in about 3 hours ET: ~~ snipped
Scandi
THANK YOU Scandi! I don't have time to read here in the first place, but I do!! I used to read at CTV but I get myself in trouble there. To many trolls!!

Ok I do go over there once in a while, usually when I'm looking for a fight. :cool:

I was actually thinking how I should go over to CTV and see what's going on there, then I came to your post. Whew!! My kids, DH, dogs and all the dirty dishes I need to go wash Thank You!
 
  • #487
Denada Dah'ling! We all need to be in the know, right? :D YaYa
Scandi
 
  • #488
j2mirish said:
oh dont bash yourself! I still bash myself cause all of this elcetronic, gps, cell phone tower, plasma tv, you name it they got it stuff---and i dont get it !:crazy:

Awww thanks J2. I'm right with you there!
 
  • #489
scandi said:
Strach, there is a poster at CTV who is going to find out where she read that Melissa's seat belt was not on when the accident occured. We'll have to keep a watch on that.

Just read a post there from Serpico 2 suggesting the passenger side air bag was disabled or turned off as some recent models have that option. Brilliant imo! Of course Jason being from that area he would've known about the many accidents I think and if they were fatal. I suggested drowning because an autopsy would show that and any bruises or anything could be put off as injury from the accident.
 
  • #490
PolkSaladAnnie said:
nan ... I *think* the cell phone owner has to have the phone ON. If JY called Meredith from his mobile - then they're be able to track nearest tower. IF ... he kept it off and called from a landline say from the alleged business meeting offices ... then they may be stumped. However, I feel that may add to a circumstantial case - they'd check bak on previous trips to determine if he regularly switched off his mobile phone.

I am also convinced Meredith's phone would have been tracked - to validate her testimony. Now ..... IF ..... Jason didn't call her .... hoo-boy .... But then, I somehow doubt it ...
I'm hoping that Jason left his phone on out of habit. I feel certain that--if he is the murderer--he had a lot to do that night. So, he may have forgotten about the cell phone.
 
  • #491
Nancy Grace show covered this tonight:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0611/21/ng.01.html

You have to scroll about halfway down before it starts.

CASAREZ: Well, you know, the latest is the home no longer is an active crime scene with investigation. The tape was taken down, so now family members can go back inside. Also, police have said up to this point that they do not have a suspect. Now they are just saying nothing. They are not saying they do have a suspect, but they are not actively saying, "We have no suspect whatsoever."

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And that is so perplexing. Let`s go to Paul Henderson, San Francisco deputy D.A. What does it mean when they say, "Well, we can`t rule anybody in, but we can`t rule anybody out"?

HENDERSON: That means that everyone is still investigating. I think this is a really complicated tragedy, and if we`re looking for answers, we`re going to have to wait a little while longer until some of the forensic evidence gets analyzed.

I think the answers are going to come more from the autopsy that`s being done, also the potential weapon that was used, if that`s been found, and also some of the evidence that`s been collected from law enforcement, like the fingerprints from the friends, neighbors and husband, the luggage that was sealed from the husband.

That`s what that means when they say that they`re waiting or not revealing information to the public. That`s what`s going on behind the scenes, that this evidence is being analyzed.

~much more at link~
 
  • #492
Strach, Did you see the post from the newbie at CTV who says he has been in the house many times? He came to post to correct posters because so many things were floating around that weren't true. When someone does this I really wonder about their motivation. They could be wanting to set a scene to benefit someone. I just don't know if these are true facts but he did sound believable, naturally! Second post, I'd love to see the first one. He could be one of Jason's friends, who knows?

* No fax machine, rather a print out of a purse he wanted to buy Michelle
* No baby gate , and dog and Cassidy could go anywhere they wanted
* LE has never said there was no burglary, in fact there are vaqluable items missing from the home
* Lawyer obtained by Josh after police ask his friends accusatory questions
* The car accident. It was Jason who turned to look back thinking the rear door wasn't closed properly, his tires went off the road a bit, he overcorrected too much and went over, and it wasn't a 100' drop and Michelle didn't have her seat belt on by choice.

Scandi
 
  • #493
strach304 said:
Well goodnight to PSA and RC and for anyone still up and reading I thought the state trooper that investigated the accident said there had been a lot of accidents there but didn't say fatalities so it's possible desperate people do desperate things. Cassidy not being in the car though is another coincidence to add to what is already a mounting pile. :waitasec:

I remember from the Peterson trial that LE had to get court orders for the cell phone records and at trial the testimony about all that with dates and everything just seemed to me to take a very long time before LE could get some of those.

Well, morning strach - everyone: it's nearly 1.30 lunchtime 22 Nov, here - and whereas I thought the carr wreck was one of those things, I'm beginning to *wonder*. H*ll, people are apt to plan crazy things. I posted this earlier, it may have got lost in Nancy's translation of a new twist ... buut you were trying to figure the name of a possible murder weapon: were you thinking of a jack - to change car tires? Wow, those could be lethal...


Thanks for the continued insight!

hey - I won't be in later - got a 'larney' engagement party tonight; mind you, it'll be your afternoon then - maybe.... just .... maybe :D Pls would someone mind pm-ing me with page or post number (here) if there's any real New Twists so when I get back I might jump on it rather than surf through every message.

Now to catch up. I spotted a tid-bit from scandi ....
 
  • #494
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Great stuff, scandi. Thanks, tks, tks ... I'm going to waddle over there! strach posted something from serpico - I've read serpico's posts and 'felt' he was a real; so will be interesting to see these later posts.

Where's packdog? You see? Recall that measly bone ... well scandi's post is more like the type of carcass we were after, lol.

scandi said:
Strach, Did you see the post from the newbie at CTV who says he has been in the house many times? He came to post to correct posters because so many things were floating around that weren't true. When someone does this I really wonder about their motivation. They could be wanting to set a scene to benefit someone. I just don't know if these are true facts but he did sound believable, naturally! Second post, I'd love to see the first one. He could be one of Jason's friends, who knows?

* No fax machine, rather a print out of a purse he wanted to buy Michelle
* No baby gate , and dog and Cassidy could go anywhere they wanted
* LE has never said there was no burglary, in fact there are vaqluable items missing from the home
* Lawyer obtained by Josh after police ask his friends accusatory questions
* The car accident. It was Jason who turned to look back thinking the rear door wasn't closed properly, his tires went off the road a bit, he overcorrected too much and went over, and it wasn't a 100' drop and Michelle didn't have her seat belt on by choice.

Scandi
 
  • #496
scandi said:
Strach, Did you see the post from the newbie at CTV who says he has been in the house many times? He came to post to correct posters because so many things were floating around that weren't true. When someone does this I really wonder about their motivation. They could be wanting to set a scene to benefit someone. I just don't know if these are true facts but he did sound believable, naturally! Second post, I'd love to see the first one. He could be one of Jason's friends, who knows?


Scandi

Hi scandi, I've read all of this posters 'real truth' across a few forums having been curious after this same poster and another that posted shorty afterwards, was responded to by few others doubting validity. They dispell everything the media has been told and on more than one ocasion (or 3), tend to highlight, or point a subtle finger, toward Meredith re Motive, Means and Opportunity... Nevertheless, imo, both are fighting to get attention off JY (justifying his every move/action) and very discreetly aim the spotlight on Meredith.

Are they right? Who knows... but I don't think so.

They claim this is media/LE's lame attempts to focus on JY. In fact, the media and LE have said very little with NO new updates. Boy, ain't that the truth, Nancy? I feel that JY is not looking good so these are repeat performances a la Jackie/Lee-style to dispell climbing suspicion. JMHO, only...

FWIW, my waters just don't trust these 2 posters. I mean I could go in there and say I am a close friend, too. Serpico 2 came back with a brief post - *much* earlier on - correcting these posters after one of them reminded readers the father was not seen at funeral: serpico immediately bluntly corrected that 'gesture' to state he was WITH Michelle's father at the funeral. So I feel serpico reads regularly; overlooks the waffle - but jumps in to confirm truth. Think Serpico also comepletely overlooks the poster who is purely baiting folk with ridiculous posts MY (affair, lesbian, etc - all total BS, and it's obvious).

So .... mmmm ... yeah. I'm skeptical.

And now from me - until later: bye! :)
 
  • #497
Playing devil's advocate here. What if Jason left his phone at the motel the entire evening? Maybe the timeframe LE have set (12-6a.m?) is when his phone was off, or in one location according to GPS.

He might know about cell phone tracking and/or GPS. I am hoping he didn't know about all this technology IF he did this crime.

I keep chuckling at hearing about his "friends" posting around the internet. Finally, one difference between Jason and ScottP...Jason apparently has friends!
 
  • #498
Taximom said:
Playing devil's advocate here. What if Jason left his phone at the motel the entire evening? Maybe the timeframe LE have set (12-6a.m?) is when his phone was off, or in one location according to GPS.

He might know about cell phone tracking and/or GPS. I am hoping he didn't know about all this technology IF he did this crime.

I keep chuckling at hearing about his "friends" posting around the internet. Finally, one difference between Jason and ScottP...Jason apparently has friends!

WOW! Super sleuth that you are. That's a very clever concept, Taximom and VERY possible; especially if he checked every detail to ensure he wouldn't be caught. Now it's his word against what they can find? And do they need to find a lot? If they find NO OTHER DNA - then, hello???

As for the friends. Maybe ONE friend - this far unknown. And then family. A-la Jackie, Peter, John & and Janey? Gotta dash. Hugs to yah'all :blowkiss:
 
  • #499
scandi said:
Strach, Did you see the post from the newbie at CTV who says he has been in the house many times? He came to post to correct posters because so many things were floating around that weren't true. When someone does this I really wonder about their motivation. They could be wanting to set a scene to benefit someone. I just don't know if these are true facts but he did sound believable, naturally! Second post, I'd love to see the first one. He could be one of Jason's friends, who knows?

* No fax machine, rather a print out of a purse he wanted to buy Michelle
* No baby gate , and dog and Cassidy could go anywhere they wanted
* LE has never said there was no burglary, in fact there are vaqluable items missing from the home
* Lawyer obtained by Josh after police ask his friends accusatory questions
* The car accident. It was Jason who turned to look back thinking the rear door wasn't closed properly, his tires went off the road a bit, he overcorrected too much and went over, and it wasn't a 100' drop and Michelle didn't have her seat belt on by choice.

Scandi

My goodness, I haven't been off the board that long but had a lot of catching up to do. There have been some good points made.

I don't have any doubt that this poster (just the facts) knows Jason well. Some of them are just rediculous with their allegations. None of the people we went to college with would EVER state such things. It is a bunch of crap and I can't imagine that these individuals have any credibility at all.

Although some here may beleive that friends of Jason's are trying to influence opinion on these boards or posting information to mislead (intentionally), I don't believe that is the case at all. Nor do I believe that JY is calling friends and encouraging them to get on the boards to defend his honor. He should be a lot more concearned about what LE thinks rather than these message boards. My personal opinion is that everthing this poster is saying, he beleives to be 100% true. Whether it actually is or not, who knows. If JY is trying to get away with murder he wouldn't come back and confess to friends and family and somehow form a plot to convince all the posters here and at ctv that he is innocent. If he is the main suspect, his story better check out or he is going to be sitting in the hot seat in front of judge. Since he has not spoken to LE, I would say that this poster would be voicing what Jason will tell LE (if he would ever go talk to them). This aggravates me by the way. The only way we are EVER going to find out the truth is if he goes on trial and we will get to see the phone records, hotel receipts, fax/computer print out, etc, etc..... This poster's info could be helpful but just like anyone else on the board, take it for what it is worth. I will use his info, as well as the little bit that I have, as speculation by those who have EXTREMELY personal feelings about the case. I'm going to throw my :twocents: in on his comments though.

* No fax machine, rather a print out of a purse he wanted to buy Michelle

Who really cares either way whether it was a fax, computer print out, or floating poop coming down from the sky? It makes a sleuth suspicious that he was looking for anniversary gifts (as this poster stated in another forum) when the anniversary had already passed.

* No baby gate , and dog and Cassidy could go anywhere they wanted

The dog was a ring bearer at their wedding and they used to bring it to tailgate at NC State football games. It was their "first" child and a member of the family. I have never been in their home but I am 99.9% certain that this is true.

* LE has never said there was no burglary, in fact there are vaqluable items missing from the home

I'm not going to speculate on this, it has not been reported nor have I been told by anyone that I trust enough to care. I do believe that Meredith could have noticed if some of the "obvious" items were missing. This poster stated this days ago before the tape was taken down and Meredith would have been the only person to be in the house other than LE. I'm sure LE asked her when they showed up if anything looked out of order to try to determine if it could have been a robbery.

* Lawyer obtained by Jason after police ask his friends accusatory questions

I would tend to disagree but would need to re read some articles. I was under the impression that he had a lawyer by the time he got back to Raleigh. I don't know how soon they started questioning family and friends but it seems like it took a couple of days to say it wasn't random and he was back before then. I don't know that LE would "immediately" start accusing him before they had ruled out a robbery attempt (if they have even done so, nothing reported).

A good friend of mine was interviewed (and finger printed) and did not give any specifics about the questioning but his exact words were, "They are trying to pin it on Jason". There must have been some accusatory things stated but I'm not sure it agrees with the time line of hiring a lawyer.

* The car accident. It was Jason who turned to look back thinking the rear door wasn't closed properly, his tires went off the road a bit, he overcorrected too much and went over, and it wasn't a 100' drop and Michelle didn't have her seat belt on by choice.

Just my opinion but I think this is irrelevant. He would have to be crazy or suicidal to do this. I know that I would not trust a seat belt and/or airbag to save my life if I decided to take a little detour down an embankment.

Anyway, don't know that any of this is helpful at all but keep up the sleuthing. I hope you all have a safe and happy thanksgiving :blowkiss: . I am going to try to keep up to date over the holidays. Maybe we can get some news and have some more info to work from.
 
  • #500
Again! Great post pack

And ... w/back, happy T/giving to you and all that's yours, too :).

Agree with everything you wrote here. Still believe this is a campaign, not an opinion, by someone desperate. It's hit the blogs again, too. Could be a personal friend in disbelief, a g/f tweaking a few things so as not to appear obvious - but it's all HEARSAY.

The MySpace accts all gone private; pictures are coming down; les and less is coming through so for the 'poster' to state media are putting out wrong message, sorry: truth REMAINS FACT that media have offered zilch.

Still feel Jason's in big trouble.

Darn. Wish I'd said it as well as you. Bravo, pack! :clap: :clap:
 
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