Michelle Young~Pregnant Mother NC Part 5

[close_enough]

WOW!! Great job - I hadn't even noticed the difference in the vehicles.

same here!...i just know it's a white SUV...good goin RC!...

 

[raisincharlie]

same here!...i just know it's a white SUV...good goin RC!...

I'd know that emblem anywhere - all our trucks are Fords - its etched into my brain.

 

[Samiya]

statement in video "Question the integrity"

another of stepdaddy's outrages?...

**ok Samiya, more coffee**

but had to come back just to add the "?"

 

[raisincharlie]

statement in video "Question the integrity"

another of stepdaddy's outrages?...

**ok Samiya, more coffee**

but had to come back just to add the "?"

I'd be inclined to agree with you on that.

I was interested in hearing that LE had also briefed the DA on the case today. They were very busy fellows today - in Brevard, briefing the DA...something's coming down shortly I think. Maybe wishful thinking.


Its morning in Nkorho Pan - the deer creatures are visiting the pond:
http://www.wavelit.com/index.asp?ch=Wildlife&sh=africam

 

[pack_fan]

I'd be inclined to agree with you on that.

I was interested in hearing that LE had also briefed the DA on the case today. They were very busy fellows today - in Brevard, briefing the DA...something's coming down shortly I think. Maybe wishful thinking.


Its morning in Nkorho Pan - the deer creatures are visiting the pond:
http://www.wavelit.com/index.asp?ch=Wildlife&sh=africam

Makes perfect sense to me that since the DA is involved, an arrest could be coming. I can't imagine DA being at the house and being updated periodically that LE does not have a #1 suspect. DA doesn't make a habit of helping LE determine who should or should not be a suspect. Actually I would think that the DA wouldn't give a rat's a** who the suspect is. I would assume (not a good thing) that they only want to be involved in making the decision if there is enough evidence to prosecute.

I am going to jump out on a limb here (not going to surprise anyone though) and say that JY is the only person they are investigating. They are searching multiple states and he is a travelling saleman. They were in his hometown today and updating DA. Previous reports of no forced entry. Came out immediately to say that this was not a random crime.

I can tell you, it's not looking good for my boy, Jason. And I hope I am completely off the mark here.

 

[evelyn24]

I'd be inclined to agree with you on that.

I was interested in hearing that LE had also briefed the DA on the case today. They were very busy fellows today - in Brevard, briefing the DA...something's coming down shortly I think. Maybe wishful thinking.


Its morning in Nkorho Pan - the deer creatures are visiting the pond:
http://www.wavelit.com/index.asp?ch=Wildlife&sh=africam

Oh yes, I agree with you.
The statements attributed to JY's family about their concern over finding the tooth (questioning the investigation) definitely leads me to think they know something is about to hit the fan. JY's attorney is not a dummy, that's for sure, and he sees the writing on the wall.

JMO...of course.

 

[close_enough]

Makes perfect sense to me that since the DA is involved, an arrest could be coming. I can't imagine DA being at the house and being updated periodically that LE does not have a #1 suspect. DA doesn't make a habit of helping LE determine who should or should not be a suspect. Actually I would think that the DA wouldn't give a rat's a** who the suspect is. I would assume (not a good thing) that they only want to be involved in making the decision if there is enough evidence to prosecute.

I am going to jump out on a limb here (not going to surprise anyone though) and say that JY is the only person they are investigating. They are searching multiple states and he is a travelling saleman. They were in his hometown today and updating DA. Previous reports of no forced entry. Came out immediately to say that this was not a random crime.

I can tell you, it's not looking good for my boy, Jason. And I hope I am completely off the mark here.

the DA's been involved from, pretty much, the get-go....but when i read that investigators had "briefed" the DA today, i went "hmmmmm"....along with them being in Brevard for more fingerprinting some of JY's family & friends, i'd say you're right....LE is investigating JY only.....

 

[jilly]

j2mirish,

Thanks to Topsail Girl I think I now have an answer or something resembling one. In looking at the video link Topsail Girl posted a few posts above this, the vehicle shown is a Ford Suv - not the Mitsubishi. This leads me to "believe" the Mitsubishi was sufficiently damaged to warrant replacement. This also leads me to believe the personal property records we checked into may not be updated correctly but understanable. However I can tell you from a DMV check - the plate number shown is correct and would have been tranfered from the 2004 vehicle to the one shown.

AHA!!! Great sleuthing RC. Exactly. There would have to be a lot of damage for the insurance co to write it off since it was a newer vehicle. As I understand it, if the cost of fixing a vehicle is more than it's worth then they'll write it off. I would assume that a 2002 Mitsubishi SUV would still be worth something in '05.

ETA Oh bruther, I've forgotten when the accident was - 05?ETA correcting year of mitsubishi.

 

[Taximom]

thanks!!!....

ok, am i making too much of this??...this item would not have led to the identity of the perp who killed Michelle????

does anyone understand what i mean?

Yeah, close, I get it. Seems like they already know who the perp is *cough*. If they thought it was some stranger that did the killing, surely they would want to conduct further tests.

I'm assuming they know if she's missing a tooth or teeth from the coroner's report, or even a quick scan of her mouth for evidence. Hopefully everyone did their job right, and they already know who killed Michelle.

Interesting work up on the cars. I did so much research (even small town internet news sites) regarding that accident and couldn't find one thing published anywhere about the May 2005 accident.

 

[strach304]

thanks!!!....

ok, am i making too much of this??...this item would not have led to the identity of the perp who killed Michelle????

does anyone understand what i mean?

I know exactly what you mean. They would've had to id it in the first place to know if it belonged to Michele. We saw in the SP trial how Geragos made LE look incompetent and that is exactly what a defense lawyer in this case will do as well. Does anyone besides me find it very telling that Jason's family's first statement to media is this? Since the original from the step-father about the lawyer is what I mean. This was a violent crime scene and hair and fibers would be even smaller than a tooth.

 

[Samiya]

Did anyone else come across this on their internet travels? I was trying to find the news report where it was said she was found on the bed. There is a great photo of the cheerleading squad with Michelle..........and yeah (to the website owner) I did notice the resemblance of Michelle to the cheerleader in Sabrina, but that's all...strangely enough it's quite an uncanny resemblance.

If ya bored while waiting for more news, have a looky.

http://truelegends.info/sayville/chessler.htm

There is also story from a guy who went to that school....what a nightmare that sounds if you're not popular

 

[Taximom]

I know exactly what you mean. They would've had to id it in the first place to know if it belonged to Michele. We saw in the SP trial how Geragos made LE look incompetent and that is exactly what a defense lawyer in this case will do as well. Does anyone besides me find it very telling that Jason's family's first statement to media is this? Since the original from the step-father about the lawyer is what I mean. This was a violent crime scene and hair and fibers would be even smaller than a tooth.

Strach, I so totally agree. When I first heard this, I had my own rant. It's not about the tooth, per se. It's the fact that something like that shouldn't have been overlooked when you've been in the home for 10 days!

So either they aren't doing their job right, or they already knew JY was the killer and didn't "need" to do that thorough of a job. In both cases, that makes them lousy investigators. IMO:twocents:

Yeah, Geragos would have a blast with this one, and so will the killer's attorney.

Shoot, I don't know if I'm on the tooth thread or Pt. 5!!!

 

[strach304]

Hi Taximom, you're on the part 5 thread I read everything on the tooth thread because I wasn't around last night and I commented there and then came here.

Another thing that concerns me is who found it and LE being in Brevard getting fingerprints. They're definitely looking at accomplices imo. They turned it in to LE but made sure they went to the media. They haven't gone to the media all along until this.

 

[strach304]

Did anyone else come across this on their internet travels? I was trying to find the news report where it was said she was found on the bed. There is a great photo of the cheerleading squad with Michelle..........and yeah (to the website owner) I did notice the resemblance of Michelle to the cheerleader in Sabrina, but that's all...strangely enough it's quite an uncanny resemblance.

If ya bored while waiting for more news, have a looky.

http://truelegends.info/sayville/chessler.htm

There is also story from a guy who went to that school....what a nightmare that sounds if you're not popular

Without going to the link I know what pic you're talking about because I didn't know which one was her and I think there was a caption at the bottom that said so.

 

[strach304]

Pardon me for asking, but how in the hell do you miss a tooth? :waitasec: They were in there for 10 WHOLE DAYS, and they miss a tooth in the room Michelle died? Sorry. I just hope they didn't miss anything else sort of critical to the investigation!!!

Didn't the coroner notice a tooth was missing when the autopsy was done? Wouldn't he/she have said "go back to the bedroom and find the tooth?" Yep. I watch too much CSI.

Yes, yes I know, it's just a tooth, but this kind of stuff (after 10 days!!!) leaves a lot for the killer's defense team to play with.:twocents:

Maybe it wasn't there? Please don't tell me LE is just gonna assume this is Michele's tooth and not id it for sure?
Found in the bedroom no less

 

[strach304]

Some food for thought; I have considered that LE doesn't have the kind of evidence that we think they might. The news of them being in Brevard and doing the fingerprints seem to point to Jason as their suspect so that tells us he hasn't been cleared and LE is keeping quiet about it to not tip off the real killer as some here have suggested.

1. They probably have unidentified prints from the house.

2. Maybe they have verified his alibi but think he had it done or has accomplices.

3. Search warrant for the clothes and luggage he took to his parents house. Especially if he hasn't been to the house to get things but essentially I think they would want to check the clothes and luggage for Michele's blood.

4. Question neighbors to see what time he arrived at his parents house.

5. Possibly the phone calls Jason made to Michele and then the one to Meredith were intentional to show his locations.

 

[raisincharlie]

Some food for thought; I have considered that LE doesn't have the kind of evidence that we think they might. The news of them being in Brevard and doing the fingerprints seem to point to Jason as their suspect so that tells us he hasn't been cleared and LE is keeping quiet about it to not tip off the real killer as some here have suggested.

1. They probably have unidentified prints from the house.

2. Maybe they have verified his alibi but think he had it done or has accomplices.

3. Search warrant for the clothes and luggage he took to his parents house. Especially if he hasn't been to the house to get things but essentially I think they would want to check the clothes and luggage for Michele's blood.

4. Question neighbors to see what time he arrived at his parents house.

5. Possibly the phone calls Jason made to Michele and then the one to Meredith were intentional to show his locations.

Strach,

I think it is reasonable to assume that LE has not collected enough evidence to motivate a prosecutor to move on this case (however the news article also indicated the DA was being briefed the same day) - or perhaps given the legal climate of the area, the prosecutor is being overly cautious and is willing to take the time necessary to lock this up by pursuing exclusionary evidence to close all doors. IMO that is what the finger printing activity (and possibly other activities) in Brevard is all about.

I agree, they may have unidentified prints in the house or on some evidence collected. Since it is unknown if JY even gave the police an alibi or information about his where abouts from Thursday evening until he arrived back in Raleigh Friday nite, this is probably not being verified as much as being discovered and filled in. Even if JY gave a list of his locations, times etcetera, IMO there will still be time unaccounted for, unless of course he spent the night with someone somewhere. And then there is the investigation of that someone, if there is a someone. All takes time. JMO

 

[close_enough]

Did anyone else come across this on their internet travels? I was trying to find the news report where it was said she was found on the bed. There is a great photo of the cheerleading squad with Michelle..........and yeah (to the website owner) I did notice the resemblance of Michelle to the cheerleader in Sabrina, but that's all...strangely enough it's quite an uncanny resemblance.

If ya bored while waiting for more news, have a looky.

http://truelegends.info/sayville/chessler.htm

There is also story from a guy who went to that school....what a nightmare that sounds if you're not popular

i find the above extremely creepy!!

ok, post #864 on thread #2

"Investigators say there were no signs anyone forced their way into the home, but the murder was violent. " http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...in2175238.shtml

"[Criminal profiler] Brown said the violent killing shows that some rage was involved, which usually points to someone who was close to the victim. " (same link)

"Brown said the violent killing shows that some rage was involved, which usually points to someone who was close to the victim. "

From November 4: "On Friday, a porch light and two lampposts on brick pillars beside the driveway burned, and a pumpkin rested on the front stoop. A gray Honda sedan was parked in the driveway near two basketball hoops, one of them child-size. A garage door was left half open.

Martin said he noticed the lights were left on a few days ago." (http://www.newsobserver.com/167/story/506181.html)

Maybe this is what I read about the lights and got mixed up. I'm going to check a few more links anyway.

Found this too: "Jason Young hired an attorney soon after his wife's body was discovered. Roger W. Smith Jr. did not respond to a request for comment this week on his client's case.

News reports have stated that Jason Young called his wife's sister, Meridith Fisher, on the morning of Nov. 3, asking that she drop by the house to pick up a fax he didn't want his wife to see. She entered the home and found her sister's lifeless body on her bed."

This says that Michelle was on the bed, so assuming it is correct, she may well have been sleeping when it happened.

 

[close_enough]

Yeah, close, I get it. Seems like they already know who the perp is *cough*. If they thought it was some stranger that did the killing, surely they would want to conduct further tests.

I'm assuming they know if she's missing a tooth or teeth from the coroner's report, or even a quick scan of her mouth for evidence. Hopefully everyone did their job right, and they already know who killed Michelle.

Interesting work up on the cars. I did so much research (even small town internet news sites) regarding that accident and couldn't find one thing published anywhere about the May 2005 accident.

GOOD!!...thanks TM & Strach...i was wondering if maybe i was reading too much into that ....

they know who they're going to charge with this murder...no doubt in my mind..

 

[close_enough]

I'd be inclined to agree with you on that.

I was interested in hearing that LE had also briefed the DA on the case today. They were very busy fellows today - in Brevard, briefing the DA...something's coming down shortly I think. Maybe wishful thinking.


Its morning in Nkorho Pan - the deer creatures are visiting the pond:
http://www.wavelit.com/index.asp?ch=Wildlife&sh=africam

someone's out there at night, in the woods, with a flashlight...

got my coffee...more O/T..has anyone tried that stuff by coffee-mate?...it's liquid creamer & they have all diff flavors....i have French Vanilla & Hazelnut...using the Hazelnut this morning....lord, it's good

it was over 70 degrees yesterday...it's 35 degrees now & it's already 11 am....i guess winter is officially here...