Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother Part 6

[raisincharlie]

Hi all I have never posted on a board before so this will be my first time. I do not know what you mean when you say I took an idea from you and posted on another venue. Do you mean the CTV bored I know there is a user over there with the same name as me. I do not even know what venue is besides reading on here that you guys read post from over there I am assuming it is another bored. I tried to sign up over there but couldn't because someone had the same name. I am sorry if I have done something wrong but I just come here to catch up on some news and a coworker told me this was a good sight. I like all your insights into the case. I am going to go see if I can find the bored and find out who has got the same user name as me. That is kinda neat. I use that name because it relates to my name. Well again I am sorry about the confusion. I hope you guys will accept me on this bored.

Hinman,

This would be my error then as there is indeed another poster at CTV with the same name. I saw that hinman was here reading the board and then the post appears at CTV. Since you have explained, please accept my apologies as it would not have been directed to you, I promise. You know what they say about assumptions...:blushing: . You need not apologize - my bad.

Don't lurk - jump in and help us out here. The more ideas we have to work with - the better. Again, please accept my apology.

RC

 

[hinman]

Hinman,

This would be my error then as there is indeed another poster at CTV with the same name. I saw that hinman was here reading the board and then the post appears at CTV. Since you have explained, please accept my apologies as it would not have been directed to you, I promise. You know what they say about assumptions...:blushing: . You need not apologize - my bad.

Don't lurk - jump in and help us out here. The more ideas we have to work with - the better. Again, please accept my apology.

RC

RC
I do not mind at all I feel bad now for lurking. I would assume the same thing. I went over to CTV and there is a poster over there with my name. Weird isn't it. I just want all you to know I promise it is not me posting over there. I will start adding my thoughts and thanks for welcoming me. I just joined when the Michelle Young case broke. I found it very interresting. I am still not sure who I feel is the perp but I am definetely leaning towards JY.

 

[raisincharlie]

RC
I do not mind at all I feel bad now for lurking. I would assume the same thing. I went over to CTV and there is a poster over there with my name. Weird isn't it. I just want all you to know I promise it is not me posting over there. I will start adding my thoughts and thanks for welcoming me. I just joined when the Michelle Young case broke. I found it very interresting. I am still not sure who I feel is the perp but I am definetely leaning towards JY.

Your name is probably why you could not sign up over there since the name is already in use. There is no requirement here to decide who you think is involved, so don't worry. We need all angles of input - the more angles the more thought and puzzling to do. I will be the first to admit to suffering occasionally from tunnel vision - the good thing - someone here always rattles me out of it. So I am glad you have posted. Please to continue and share your thoughts with us - they would be welcome I assure you.

 

[scandi]

Hi Ocean,

Merry Christmas to you too :blowkiss: I guess our Christmas smilies are all up helping Santa Bet you're going to be doing a lot of cooking. I read that you were a cheerleader with the gal on the FoodChannel who is the great Southern cook. I bet she was a fun one to know, and always kept you hopping!

Not one new article this week that I know of. It has to be there are warrants yet to come back - well like Charlie stated he didn't think the SUV warrant is back 'cause he'll be all over it when it's published. Taking their time, the DA is just bucking eagle eyes and claws in the law firm they'll be up against is all I can think of.

Thinking about that post where the friend said things were done to Michelle and it wasn't the right time to talk about this. I thought her post was very sincere and almost humble, and so I think there is some fire there. I read the post linked by someone from the poster who mentioned to ask J___ {can't remember the 3 last letters of this name} about what was missing at the funeral. Cassidy wasn't there but I don't think that would be it. I agree with Sami it wouldn't have been removing the baby. But besides what we've heard Cassidy say on the tapes, if something personal were done to the body as suggested over at CTV, it would immediately tell Sheriff Harrison it was not a random crime. Do you know what the J___ name refered to?

Scandi

 

[close_enough]

Morning Close

Hope this day finds you well. I've been studying again and now I am wondering. JY's SUV is an Explorer which is not the large Ford Suv model by any means, sort of mid sized. I'm studying on how practical it would be to cram five people (JY, Mom, Dad, Sis, and Brother in law) into this vehicle with all of their luggage, packed for an unknown number of days, and drive back together in this vehicle to Raleigh.

For some reason I see two people and the luggage in the SUV and the others in another vehicle. We can deduce all of the luggage was in the SUV based on Step Dad's reaction to it being confiscated (to inculde medications). With this in mind, I'm thinking there is a strong potential that JYs luggage would not have been removed from that vehicle prior to this return trip (hope so). I seem to recall, but can't confirm through the links we have, that the BIL was driving the SUV. The only reason I'm studying this is because a poster at CTV, supposedly an insider, has indicated that there is video surveilance from the hotel were JY supposedly stay - this means to me at least - something was found very quickly to track him to a specific hotel the night of the murder in order to have a surveilance video. Or the poster is blowing smoke.
Any thoughts ?

ETA - according to warrants 2 cell phones belonging to JY were confiscated from the SUV.

yeah, what a way to get a timeline going!....

my middle son has an older model Explorer..(no way i can think what year, but i think it's an 80-something..it's a nice size but it's not humongous or anything...5 people & luggage would be a tad snug, IMO...hmm, wonder the timeframe is once JY "plumb fell to his knees" to the time the clan packed up & jumped in the vehicle/vehicles, & rushed back to Raleigh?

 

[Samiya]

Scout,

I think there are a bunch of them that started posting and as things evolved they stopped perhaps after LE interviews or something of that nature. I know one thing - I hope I never find myself in their shoes. This has to be incredibly difficult for all of them. I find myself not so much wanting to know who is who - just what is realistic.

ECU girl in particular struck me as someone who was more than just an occasional acquaintance - only because her comments, although somewhat cryptic, are also indicative of someone closer rather than further away. Perhaps closer to Meredith but either way, I think her comments are indicative of the mood, at least on one side of this issue. That side has reason to believe what they believe. Interesting, I think all the video shots from the funeral tend to bear this to be a truth - granted we did not see everything but there was little unity in what was shown. I don't know but her posts struck me as very genuine, even disregarding her thoughts about JY - the words resonate.

With that link, I found Rhett's myspace link..(gotta scroll down a bit) on clicking, I was able to access his profile. I never saw it before so I don't know if he's done some work on it.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

I went over and read the posts at the CTV board. IMO they are not that different from us over there. A few posters came up with some "way out" theories, as will always happen. But for the most part they are discussing the same things we are over here.

The big difference I would say is that they have had several posters come onto their board who claim to be "insiders". This would be much more possible to happen there than here.

Someone help me out here - why would LE tell people not to be posting information on message boards (if they did tell people this)? How would this hurt an investigation?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Hi Ocean,

Merry Christmas to you too :blowkiss: I guess our Christmas smilies are all up helping Santa Bet you're going to be doing a lot of cooking. I read that you were a cheerleader with the gal on the FoodChannel who is the great Southern cook. I bet she was a fun one to know, and always kept you hopping!

Not one new article this week that I know of. It has to be there are warrants yet to come back - well like Charlie stated he didn't think the SUV warrant is back 'cause he'll be all over it when it's published. Taking their time, the DA is just bucking eagle eyes and claws in the law firm they'll be up against is all I can think of.

Thinking about that post where the friend said things were done to Michelle and it wasn't the right time to talk about this. I thought her post was very sincere and almost humble, and so I think there is some fire there. I read the post linked by someone from the poster who mentioned to ask J___ {can't remember the 3 last letters of this name} about what was missing at the funeral. Cassidy wasn't there but I don't think that would be it. I agree with Sami it wouldn't have been removing the baby. But besides what we've heard Cassidy say on the tapes, if something personal were done to the body as suggested over at CTV, it would immediately tell Sheriff Harrison it was not a random crime. Do you know what the J___ name refered to?

Scandi

Good Morning sweet Lady!

The poster that seemed so sincere and I do agree they certainly did genuinely seems to know that something was done to Michelle's body that we are not privy to and that is SOP with LE. The police always keep things secret and never reveal all things known. So imo something definitely happened to Michelle besides the bludgeoning imo. Could she have been stabbed also in the stomach? I just dont know but it sounds horrific to me though. It does make me wonder though if she was sexually assaulted. It also makes me think that the AR will remain sealed so that fact cant be disclosed.

I cant remember the nic either seems like it was "jdm" or something like that. I have no idea what that stands for or how they are connected to the case.

One of the insiders said that Michelle had her wedding rings on so I have no idea what could have been missing at the funeral. A necklace she always wore perhaps?

LOL Yep I have been cooking. Trying to get as much of it done and frozen so my days before Christmas aren't spent in the kitchen. I have all of Paula Deen's cookbooks, they are great! Big crowd coming again on Christmas Day but I truly love it even though it makes me bone tired.

IMO

Ocean

 

[raisincharlie]

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Someone help me out here - why would LE tell people not to be posting information on message boards (if they did tell people this)? How would this hurt an investigation?

The thing about message boards - they are public - the more information put out, the more opportunity for the perp to figure ways to cover tracks for each contingency, especially if he/she has a lawyer. Also information posted can well define investigative direction - not a good thing for anyone being investigated to know.

Since so many posters came forward - it is probably as easy to believe there are readers as well. Past experience on the boards indicates that even SP and his lawyers were watching and reading, the DA was not oblivious to the forums either.

I can understand LE asking people not to post information about what is known, what they were asked or how it was asked. LE in this case has been incredibly controlled in terms of leaks, the press has apparently adopted this same philosophy - seems to me they simply want the fruit of the investigation to stick. JMO

 

[raisincharlie]

I found this link and thought it most amazing - a look to the future so to speak of criminal investigation. The most interesting thing about it - it was used in the Laci Peterson case - goes to show that LE tried their best IMO - otherwise it is a european technology not yet accepted here in the states. Seems most promising:


http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=18&id=31708


ETA - here is the main page - there are articles on just about every subject with respect to investigation techniques,

http://www.officer.com/article/index.jsp?siteSection=18

 

[TGIRecovered]

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QUOTE=oceanblueeyes]Good Morning sweet Lady!

something was done to Michelle's body that we are not privy to and that is SOP with LE. The police always keep things secret and never reveal all things known. So imo something definitely happened to Michelle besides the bludgeoning imo.

I speculate that Michelle's body may have been covered up in some way and that this may be a contributing factor to their immediate conclusion that this was not a stranger murder. Another possibility is that the attack could have caused her to miscarry the baby.

I'm surprized I haven't seen any mention of the coincidence that this murder happened at about the same time that coverage of the Christa Worthington murder trial was televised. Christa was murdered by the garbage man and left on the floor of her home for several days with her 2 year old daughter running around in her blood. Poor baby was found trying to nurse on mom's dead body. Much was made of the supposition that the murderer must not be someone who new the victim and her child since the child was so callously left alone with mom's body splayed out on the floor.

Could JY have hatched a plot to copy-cat some circumstances of Christa's murder in order to try to steer suspicion away from himself?

Susan

 

[oceanblueeyes]

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I speculate that Michelle's body may have been covered up in some way and that this may be a contributing factor to their immediate conclusion that this was not a stranger murder. Another possibility is that the attack could have caused her to miscarry the baby.

I'm surprised I haven't seen any mention of the coincidence that this murder happened at about the same time that coverage of the Christa Worthington murder trial was televised. Christa was murdered by the garbage man and left on the floor of her home for several days with her 2 year old daughter running around in her blood. Poor baby was found trying to nurse on mom's dead body. Much was made of the supposition that the murderer must not be someone who new the victim and her child since the child was so callously left alone with mom's body splayed out on the floor.

Could JY have hatched a plot to copy-cat some circumstances of Christa's murder in order to try to steer suspicion away from himself?

Susan

Hmmm...that is a good thought..I wondered if he kept up with criminal cases. That case wasnt all that publicized in the general media though but maybe he watched trials on CTV.

I dont know about how Michelle was found but I just felt it was something awful done to her body that we haven't heard about.

I sure wish we would hear something from LE.

Merry Christmas!

Ocean

 

[strach304]

Scandi, it was jdub if memory serves me correctly. I'll go further to just add a few other tidbits from memory to the conversation but not speculate.
It was posted early on at the ctv boards by only one poster and nothing else that it was rumored MY was found naked and LE originally thought it was a sex crime. Other forms morphed from there such as no top or no pants, etc. This is from memory and there were people at that time posting that claimed to be neighbors and friends so I don't recall who posted that.

As for the poster remarking what was done to Michelle maybe it's as simple as the 10 blows to the head RPD related since he is the one that posted that just like he later posted the affair rumor after the timing of LE going to Fl. which we now know but yet after it had already been posted by another insider before him. Then there's also the info regarding the bruises around her neck at the funeral and then the tooth so if he she was strangled and then repeatedly beat in the head wouldn't that be a painful torturing kind of death? I think the poster who made the statement on ctv about what was done to MY is a new poster there and may not be aware of the many conversations on that board already discussed about her horrible murder.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

If her neck was swollen at funeral, I would bet she was strangled in addition to the bludgeoning.

Gosh, I wish LE would make an arrest! But then I remember how long it was until Scott Peterson was arrested - but of course their was no body.

Maybe we can think of the dentist from Atlanta (?). I think it was quite a while until he was arrested for the murder of his wife. (I'm talking about the one where he had also murdered a fiance many years prior. He ended up pleading guilty to both murders not too long ago)

 

[Floh]

RPD has now reported something about the bank fund for Cassidy. RPD says Jayson Youngs' family stopped the mone being sent to Mereith's address and now it is being snt to a bank.

if this is so, i wonder if it has anything to do with that ugly rumour about Meredith which was circulating this week and hasn't proved to have any foundation so far?

 

[BarnGoddess]

Good Morning sweet Lady!

LOL Yep I have been cooking. Trying to get as much of it done and frozen so my days before Christmas aren't spent in the kitchen. I have all of Paula Deen's cookbooks, they are great! Big crowd coming again on Christmas Day but I truly love it even though it makes me bone tired.

IMO

Ocean

My favorite cookbooks. I make rice now like she showed on page 26 of "Paula Deen Celebrates". Try also her Twice Baked Potato Casserole on page 209 of the same book. Absolutely delicious. I'll never try to save the skins and stuff them anymore. This is so much easier. Tasty too.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

My favorite cookbooks. I make rice now like she showed on page 26 of "Paula Deen Celebrates". Try also her Twice Baked Potato Casserole on page 209 of the same book. Absolutely delicious. I'll never try to save the skins and stuff them anymore. This is so much easier. Tasty too.

I just received Paula's "Kitchen Classics" cookbook this week. You should try her Sour Cream Butter Bisquits. So simple but they are awesome. Quick and easy.

IMO

Ocean

 

[raisincharlie]

RPD has now reported something about the bank fund for Cassidy. RPD says Jayson Youngs' family stopped the mone being sent to Mereith's address and now it is being snt to a bank.

if this is so, i wonder if it has anything to do with that ugly rumour about Meredith which was circulating this week and hasn't proved to have any foundation so far?

JMO - it tells me there is considerable distance between these two families and since JY has a lawyer everything is being watched by a hawk. It also tells me the Fishers were simply trying to do the right thing but perhaps didn't have the luxury of a high priced lawyer to set this up properly.

My first thought about the story was it was a distraction by an attorney, - I think my first thought was pretty close to being right. Part of defending is creating diversion and attempting to cast doubt - especially on a potentially key witness. It is not lost on me what attorney is involved. JMO

 

[scandi]

I was a firm believer that Scott did something to Laci's body before he wrapped her to go in the San Francisco Bay. He had been making those weights, and I think he poured the last bit of wet concrete over her groin area where the birth canal was, before he wrapped her up. I think he did this to insure Conner would never slip out to be found. And as a result, the bare threads of Laci's pants on her upper legs and groin were covered with those smooth crystalline stones the ME mentioned at the prelim - mineralization, where the lime in the concrete reacted chemicly with the magnesium in the water and her decaying flesh and formed the little stones around the sand, also from the concrete. That is the only place we heard there were stones on Laci's remains.

If Jason was the killer and he was so enraged with her, I could see him doing something to her body to defile their baby, something they had created together, now gone.

 

[jilly]

RPD has now reported something about the bank fund for Cassidy. RPD says Jayson Youngs' family stopped the mone being sent to Mereith's address and now it is being snt to a bank.

if this is so, i wonder if it has anything to do with that ugly rumour about Meredith which was circulating this week and hasn't proved to have any foundation so far?

I'll bet it has everything to do with this rumor....mind you I have to agree that it should be through a bank. So! That would probably tell us that this rumor originated from JYs side.

I'm still up in the air about this. I think maybe there's some truth to this rumor but maybe not enough for there for a a charge? Also, I find it hard to believe that LE would lay a charge like that when she is a material witness in a murder case. It may be on hold - I don't really know. Maybe I just watch too much TV.:crazy: