Missing 8 mth pregnant Marine Maria Frances Lauterbach- NC #5

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I disagree. The Marine Corps did not help create this monster. This guy was already like this. I don't know what caused him to be a rapist and a murderer; however, this psychotic behavior/tendency was there long before he joined the USMC.
That is why I said they "helped" create this monster. USMC did teach him how to be an effective killing machine. They failed to recognize those tendencies while creating this machine.

I have known a few men who simply were not the same people after going into the service. They became overly aggressive and abusive with the Marine ego instilled in them. A dangerous combination when they came back into the civilian population, imo.
 
  • #102
Nan:blowkiss: While they might not have helped create him, they sure help him get away, IMOO
Hey Indy. :) I don't agree with that, either. Rapes are oftentimes a he said/she said. Did Maria go to the hospital or police that night? Did they have his DNA from the rape? I don't think that is the case. HER OWN MOTHER has said that she is a compulsive liar and bipolar.

I personally cannot fault the USMC for anything at this point. I don't think that civilian police would have done much either. It was going to be a hard case to prove as it was. Do you not think that the defense would be exploiting her lies and previous stories of exaggeration?

I believe that I heard on the news that the civilians have jurisdiction over this case of murder. So, they are probably the ones looking for this guy.

My speculation is that this guy did not commit suicide. I believe that he may be getting help. If he turns to relatives (even in Mexico), I believe that he will be caught. You can bet that the police know who his relatives are. You can also bet that his wife is singing like a canary to keep from being charged with anything. After all, didn't she live in that house??
 
  • #103
I'm losing patience with this sheriff ! Can you tell ? LOL

Why say they'll have presser at 10 and then leave ppl waiting sooo long???
 
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Dog can't go after this 🤬🤬🤬 because he has not yet been arrested. A bounty hunter is only allowed to go after a person after an arrest if they skip out on their bail. They work for the bonds company to essentially get back the perp due to money spent to bail them out of jail. They are then considered fair game, but not until. At least, this is my understanding.

I don't know if Dog Chapman can set foot back in Mexico to chase another one.
Guess you missed this!
 
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nan, the marines didnt even turn over to brown until last week. IMO, they should have done it as soon as she went missing. I mean all they had to do was go to his house and see the disturbed ground. IMO they tried to save their azzes cuz they knew the screwed up. This would have been over sooner had they just flew over his house and saw the ground
 
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That is why I said they "helped" create this monster. USMC did teach him how to be an effective killing machine. They failed to recognize those tendencies while creating this machine.

I have known a few men who simply were not the same people after going into the service. They became overly aggressive and abusive with the Marine ego instilled in them. A dangerous combination when they come back into the civilian population, imo.
I spent many years around the military and USMC, in particular. Individuals who enter any branch of service are combat trained. That's what the military is all about. IMO, you are really looking for "someone" or "something" to blame.

If we, as a society, could 100 percent determine who the potential psychopaths are/were, we could just smut them out before they raped, killed, etc. I think that's an unrealistic expectation.
 
  • #109
Nan after the presser I will write a better post about why I think they screwed up, sorry I am scared I will miss something...LOL
 
  • #110
As much attention as this has gotten I am surprised he hasn't been found yet, unless he's holed up somewhere and not traveling. The report of him being spotted could be completely false, either someone looking for their 15 minutes or mistaken. If he had been on a bus then there would have been many other people who also could have seen him.

So many things get me about this case, if he had wanted to avoid the rape investigation, then why not run away without killing her? There would have been no huge manhunt then and would have gotten very little coverage.
If and I do not believe this for a moment, she had killed herself, then the baby could have still been saved, he would then be guilty of letting the baby die also right?
I am very suspicous of the wife, I would hope she was not involved but we all know some women will do just about anything for their man.
I just want him to be caught before he can get to another country and I want the truth to be found out about just what did happen, this poor young woman and her baby need and deserve justice!! And the military needs to do some major housecleaning to see that our women who join are safe.

VB
 
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In chat WS going down now
 
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I spent many years around the military and USMC, in particular. Individuals who enter any branch of service are combat trained. That's what the military is all about. IMO, you are really looking for "someone" or "something" to blame.

If we, as a society, could 100 percent determine who the potential psychopaths are/were, we could just smut them out before they raped, killed, etc. I think that's an unrealistic expectation.

Nan I agree with you. We can not Blame the USMC for thisIt would be like blame the LE for what Cutts did.The someone to blame is The 🤬🤬🤬 himself. he choosed to go this route with no one help.
 
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We're in chat if anybody wants to join us in case WS goes
 
  • #114
Sheesh, I guess when the presser finally starts, it will be 10AM somewhere.
 
  • #115
Sheesh, I guess when the presser finally starts, it will be 10AM somewhere.
I'm wondering if Lauren did kill himself and they are waiting for an official identification or are waiting to get the greenlight to tell this (or something else) to the public. Heavy speculation here. :waitasec:
 
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If you need the link pm quick b4 it goes down again guys
 
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Well, I have a distorted view of the military then, but it sure seems like in this particular case...there were warning signs when you have someone who is accused of rape that they failed to pay attention to.
 
  • #119
I'm wondering if Lauren did kill himself and they are waiting for an official identification or are waiting to get the greenlight to tell this (or something else) to the public. Heavy speculation here. :waitasec:
I agree NAN!!
 
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http://www.ksla.com/global/story.asp?s=7617837
Shreveport Marshals say the driver of a Greyhound Bus called police late Saturday night saying a man who looked like Cesar Armando was on his bus which was headed to Shreveport. Police searched the bus and the area around it but did not find Armando. The driver could not say which direction Armando may have gone in.

Someone working at the Greyhound Station who did not want to be identified says the bus driver was sure it was Armando. The unidentified worker also says that the ticket was bought in another name and that bus had come from Dallas.

Chief Charlie Caldwell says if he is in this area, "He will be apprehended".




http://www.ktbs.com/news/Suspect-in-slain-Marine-case-spotted-in-Shreveport-7825/
Authorities say three to four witnesses confirmed seeing Corporal Cesar Armando Laurean on a Greyhound bus that arrived in Shreveport around ten o'clock Saturday night. According to witnesses, Laurean was wearing a grey hoodie sweatshirt.

Shreveport police and officers with the U. S. Marshal's Service went to the bus station, but Laurean was not there. Authorities believe Laurean was headed to Texas. At least one bus enroute to Dallas was stopped, but he was not on board.
 
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