Missing cell phones

[Twelve of One]

Could someone please tell me what MW is saying, because I do not understand any of it.

Huh???????

What don't you understand? She seems to be suggesting she has no info. A call came into her phone the night of Lisa's disappearance, but MW didn't answer it and doesn't know who answered it and doesn't know what was said. She doesn't explain who else would have had access to her phone. Doesn't say what time the call came in. She implies, but does not state directly, that someone answered the call.

She says LE has interviewed her 4 times and she knows the Irwins' neighborhood b/c she's "been through" it with her ex. Seems to be implying she's not overly familiar with the nabe, but has been there before b/c of her ex. Denies knowing the Bradley-Irwin couple, never saw Lisa before.

So, reading between the lines, she's denying any knowledge or involvement in the phone call and the case. Interesting that she mentions an ex, but doesn't offer any explanation of why she went "through" the neighborhood with him. Doesn't mention if she ever visited anyone there.

 

[21merc7]

BBM

I have a really hard time believing this, because 50 seconds is a long time to talk with a stranger if it was simply a wrong number, even for voice mail that's a long time. If the caller was someone known to MW, they would have left a message with whoever answered MW's phone, or left a message on the voice mail, if it even did go to voice mail, which I don't believe because MW herself indicated the phone was answered by someone.

Someone.

And I don't believe the caller pocket-dialed. I think the person who dialed MW's phone knew exactly who they were calling. Furthermore, I think it's most likely that MW is the someone who took the call.

IMO

You're right, 50 seconds is a long time. I am thinking of those long winded voicemails at work and 50 seconds can cram a lot of info in.

Wonder why she says someone. Does she not know who had her phone? I would agree someone is her unless she has told LE who had her phone at whatever hour the call was received.

 

[hornswoggled]

I find the whole story about DB "reprogramming" three cell phones unbelievable. If she was so drunk that she "blacked out", how in blue blazes could she have the wits about her to program a cell phone or three? And if she were truly that drunk and blacked out, she has no idea what the kids were doing. That's how I think all the lights got turned on in the house. The kids turned them on because it was getting dark and "mommy" was passed out someplace (that is, if she were home). I have to wonder if this was a common occurrence with her drinking. If she regularly drank to the point of neglecting her children, then the kids were used to seeing that.

Funny thing though, she "remembered" that the cells were on the kitchen counter (drunk as she was) when her husband said "call 911". Why would he tell her to call 911? Sounds like Ronald Cummings telling Misty Croslin to call 911. If a child is missing, the person who discovered that the child was missing would simply call 911 and wake up all neighbors and everything else they could possibly do. Instead they go through the house screaming for Lisa as though she could answer them? There are too many facts that were given to police that are simply too stupid to be believable.

Here we go again. "Keep looking for my baby, but don't ask me tough questions and don't expect me to go look for her". Sounds all to familiar. It seems that the parents shouldn't be calling the shots in this case. LE along with a judge could be calling the shots on behalf of a little one who cannot speak for herself. Those two little boys need to be questioned.

 

[Turnadot]

BBM

You're right, 50 seconds is a long time. I am thinking of those long winded voicemails at work and 50 seconds can cram a lot of info in.

Wonder why she says someone. Does she not know who had her phone? I would agree someone is her unless she has told LE who had her phone at whatever hour the call was received.

I find her "I don't know" claim wrt who answered her phone a lie at worst, and suspicious at best. It's possible she told LE who answered, but I'm doubting that because the media who are keen to report when someone takes a P, hasn't followed up with this story and reported that LE was talking to person X. I'm inclined to believe MW took that call and is playing it off to LE by claiming she's clueless. I hope LE digs deep on this.

IMO

 

[Sigh Sister]

You're right, 50 seconds is a long time. I am thinking of those long winded voicemails at work and 50 seconds can cram a lot of info in.

Wonder why she says someone. Does she not know who had her phone? I would agree someone is her unless she has told LE who had her phone at whatever hour the call was received.

I know this has been pointed out before, but some cell phone companies (including mine) record 1 minute used for incoming missed calls and outgoing unanswered calls. Do we know for a fact that this isn't the case?

 

[~n/t~]

Do we know if she went to LE or did LE track her down ?

 

[Sigh Sister]

Do we know if she went to LE or did LE track her down ?

My understanding is that LE tracked her down, but I don't have a link to back it up. BUT, if she went to LE, that would contradict her claim that she doesn't know DB/JI. How would she know the call came from them?

 

[Turnadot]

I know this has been pointed out before, but some cell phone companies (including mine) record 1 minute used for incoming missed calls and outgoing unanswered calls. Do we know for a fact that this isn't the case?

MW herself indiacted the phone was answered by an actual person, and the call was 50 seconds long. I would think that if the situation was as above, the call would have been recorded at 60 seconds. If the phone had not been answered, she would have implied that, or said flat out that it was a missed call. So, IMO, it was not a missed call or an outgoing call, because LE indicated that the call was placed to MW's phone via one of the missing Irwin phones.

All JMHO, of course. I'm open to being totally wrong about this, but those are my opinions at the moment..

 

[Cazzie]

My understanding is that LE tracked her down, but I don't have a link to back it up. BUT, if she went to LE, that would contradict her claim that she doesn't know DB/JI. How would she know the call came from them?

Yes, the video reporter said LE tracked her down.

My guess is that LE finally told her what number the call came from and that it was from a Bradwin (love that term!) phone. She was interviewd 4 times by LE, so maybe their questions escalated in pressure, if she was claiming ignorance or denying anything?

 

[Sigh Sister]

MW herself indiacted the phone was answered by an actual person, and the call was 50 seconds long. I would think that if the situation was as above, the call would have been recorded at 60 seconds. If the phone had not been answered, she would have implied that, or said flat out that she isn't sure if it was even answered. So, IMO, it was not a missed call or an outgoing call, because LE indicated that the call was placed to MW's phone via one of the missing Irwin phones.

All JMHO, of course. I'm open to being totally wrong about this, but those are my opinions at the moment..

My cell company records a minute even if I only talk to someone for 30 seconds. I want to know MW's cell phone company and how it handles calls, missed or otherwise in terms of minutes used, before drawing conclusions. Also, LE could have told her that the call was answered, causing her confusion because she knows that she didn't answer any call at 2:30 am. How could LE know that the call was in fact answered?

Maybe I'm being dense. It's early and I haven't had my morning coffee yet. :crazy:

 

[Cazzie]

My cell company records a minute even if I only talk to someone for 30 seconds. I want to know MW's cell phone company and how it handles calls, missed or otherwise in terms of minutes used, before drawing conclusions. Also, LE could have told her that the call was answered, causing her confusion because she knows that she didn't answer any call at 2:30 am. How could LE know that the call was in fact answered?

Maybe I'm being dense. It's early and I haven't had my morning coffee yet. :crazy:

It would be easy for forget a "hang up" (or 50 seconds of dead air) voicemail msg. I look at the number it came from and ignore it unless it's familiar.

Depending on when LE first questioned her, IMO, it would be easy to forget that you had a hang-up voicemail msg on that particular nite.

But I'm not a pink-haired girl apologist...just trying to figger things out with the little we have to go on.

 

[~n/t~]

My cell company records a minute even if I only talk to someone for 30 seconds. I want to know MW's cell phone company and how it handles calls, missed or otherwise in terms of minutes used, before drawing conclusions. Also, LE could have told her that the call was answered, causing her confusion because she knows that she didn't answer any call at 2:30 am. How could LE know that the call was in fact answered?

Maybe I'm being dense. It's early and I haven't had my morning coffee yet. :crazy:

I believe if it went to VM there is a way the phone company can track that.

 

[Turnadot]

My cell company records a minute even if I only talk to someone for 30 seconds. I want to know MW's cell phone company and how it handles calls, missed or otherwise in terms of minutes used, before drawing conclusions. Also, LE could have told her that the call was answered, causing her confusion because she knows that she didn't answer any call at 2:30 am. How could LE know that the call was in fact answered?

Maybe I'm being dense. It's early and I haven't had my morning coffee yet. :crazy:

Oh I see what you're getting at now.

But, IMO, someone answered it, otherwise LE would not have interviewed MW four times over a missed call, and MW could have told LE what the voice mail said, but she indicated she hadn't a clue what was said. Wrt the BBM, LE could check the phone records to know whether or not it was answered. I think it would be easy enough for the cell phone company to tell them if it was a missed call, voice mail, or answered.

IMO, it was answered. Not a voice mail.

 

[Sigh Sister]

Oh I see what you're getting at now.

But, IMO, someone answered it, otherwise LE would not have interviewed MW four times over a missed call, and MW could have told LE what the voice mail said, but she indicated she hadn't a clue what was said. Wrt the BBM, LE could check the phone records to know whether or not it was answered. I think it would be easy enough for the cell phone company to tell them if it was a missed call, voice mail, or answered.

IMO, it was answered. Not a voice mail.

I didn't realize that a cell company could tell if a call was answered. I do know you can tell from looking at the actual phone (at least with mine) if it was a missed call.....that is if I didn't delete the missed call.

 

[Turnadot]

BBM

I didn't realize that a cell company could tell if a call was answered. I do know you can tell from looking at the actual phone (at least with mine) if it was a missed call.....that is if I didn't delete the missed call.

I'm not putting that out as a fact, just so no one thinks I'm in the know about something. I'm not at all. It's just my guess that if they have technology that can retrieve txt msgs and track minutes a phone was in use, they can see whether or not a phone was actually answered, missed call, or voice mail. Again, that's just my guess.

I really don't think LE would have wasted time interviewing MW four times if it was a missed call or voice mail.

IMO

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Forgive me if I'm completely wrong. But it was stated on tonights JP show in the MSN thread that JI was working away at the time the call was made?

That's what I keep hearing.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.kmbc.com/news/29612215/detai ... z1c4vqPWj6
--at 1:35


GMA Reporter: “Deborah Bradley has maintained all along that three of the family’s cell phones were taken, along with baby Lisa. And that very night, Megan Wright got a call from one of those phones.”

Megan Wright: “I received a phone call, well, my phone did, um, the night that baby Lisa went missing. It was apparently a fifty second phone call. Uh, I don’t know who answered it, or what was said, or who was on the other end of the phone.”

GMA Reporter: “She says that investigators tracked her down and questioned her four times.”
GMA Reporter: “What did you tell them?”

Megan Wright: "I told them I have been through the neighborhood with my ex-boyfriend, I knew, I’ve been through there. I didn’t know the family, didn’t recognize the pictures, um, had never seen baby Lisa until I saw her picture on the news.”

My take on what MW is saying; She is familiar with the neighborhood,she has been though the neighborhood with her ex-boyfriend,and while there she never say baby lisa. Her Phone received a call from one of the 3 phones, she probably was slepeing didn't answer the phone doesn't know who called her phone. just that there is 50 seconds of time between the two phones.


just sitting here thinking. if you call a #, then time it from first ring to the end of the greeting on the other end and then can start to leave a message, how much time will elapse?

 

[Sigh Sister]

BBM

I'm not putting that out as a fact, just so no one thinks I'm in the know about something. I'm not at all. It's just my guess that if they have technology that can retrieve txt msgs and track minutes a phone was in use, they can see whether or not a phone was actually answered, missed call, or voice mail. Again, that's just my guess.

I really don't think LE would have wasted time interviewing MW four times if it was a missed call or voice mail.

IMO

BBM

I'm trying to find out if that is in fact true, but having a really hard time. I'll keep looking though and report back if I find anything. If cell companies can differentiate between missed, answered, etc... I'll totally be on board with you.

 

[Elley Mae]

Do we know if she went to LE or did LE track her down ?

Thanks, that is what I am wondering, if LE tracked her down that means they have the rest of the phones records.

 

[NancyA]

Trying to make sense of MW's nonsense....ok, someone made a call to HER phone from one of the missing phones from the Irwin house, I'm still not clear WHEN this call was made but I'm guessing it was the night in question. Now I'm also guessing that it didn't go to voicemail otherwise there would still BE a voicemail or record of a voicemail for LE to access and there'd be no reason for MW to say she doesn't know who answered her phone because obviously vm answered it - ta da. The 50 seconds suggests to me not a misdial or pocket dial but that whoever had possession of the phone actually dialed that number or misdialled another number close to it. Since 50 seconds also seems to me a long time to establish a wrong number I don't think it was a wrong number - so for 50 second the person who dialled the number had a conversation with whoever answered the phone. As to who that was well, unless MW lives in a household with dozens of people and generally leaves her phone lying around so any of those dozens of people might pick it up and answer it, the field of possible people who took that call must be pretty narrow and, to me, it's logical to assume that the person who called that number would be expecting to talk to MW herself not some random housemate otherwise they'd call the random housemate's phone wouldn't they? I think MW took the call from someone she knew - be that someone in the Irwin household OR someone who had been in the Irwin house and taken their phones I don't know.....which can be added to the long list of things I don't know.

OK, I just previewed my post and even I can't follow my own reasoning, it's as clear as mud - if anyone else can make sense of what I'm thinking please do me the kindness of explaining while I get some more coffee.