Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #10

[flute4peace]

Exactly! And then she was talking about she and Mike going over to the house that day and said, "So we went to the house".....and she starts to say something else, and pauses, like she's "Catching" herself, and says "We had never been there before". Like she wanted to make that particular issue clear for some reason.
And lets not forget about her "That Other Girl" comment. If she and Susie were good old friends from way back, and she had taken graduation pictures with her, and Susie had gone to her house that night and went partying with her........Why in the heck does she refer to her as "That Other Girl", like she barely knows her.
Doesn't make one bit of sense, and never has!

Generally speaking, some 18 yr old girls are jealous & self-centered. Again, generally speaking.

 

[k-mac]

@Santachrist mike im still catching up and we are very appreciative you answering questions.
black and white.
its very helpful.
there is somebody here on websleuths albeit quiet atm who has stated for years that he has spoken with you personally.
can you confirm this to be true or false?
thanks

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Generally speaking, some 18 yr old girls are jealous & self-centered. Again, generally speaking.

I agree, but I just don't see jealousy as being the motivating factor in JK detaching herself so much from Susie, that she refers to her as, "That Other Girl". To me she is exhibiting "Distancing Behavior" by using those words. I can see her using a harsh tone when saying Susie's name as being Jealousy motivated, but for her to completely detach herself from what was suppose to be a life long relationship and friendship with Susie, from the time they were little kids, by calling her, "That Other Girl" just screams her trying to distance herself from Susie. And she's not doing it with Stacy, just Susie. Yes, she may have been a little or a lot jealous about Stacy going with Susie that night instead of staying with Janelle, but it just strikes me as a red flag issue for her to address Susie in such a detached and distancing manor.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Timeline matters and very crucial.

Local LE lowered his bond (why?) on another charge and then he met up with cops at a hotel and they said he “escaped?” But then it says he committed the rape he is now imprisoned for just after that.

All very odd and we should be getting to the bottom of it.

Agreed!! Considered the propensity of his crime, it doesn't make any sense for them to lower his bond. So why? Was it possibly some sort of "Deal" that police struck with Garrison for telling them about the "Tip"/"Robb Farm" and other thing? Things that police stated that Garrison knew that hadn't yet been released to the public? Did they make him a deal? Good Question Springfieldman341!!

 

[flute4peace]

I agree, but I just don't see jealousy as being the motivating factor in JK detaching herself so much from Susie, that she refers to her as, "That Other Girl". To me she is exhibiting "Distancing Behavior" by using those words. I can see her using a harsh tone when saying Susie's name as being Jealousy motivated, but for her to completely detach herself from what was suppose to be a life long relationship and friendship with Susie, from the time they were little kids, by calling her, "That Other Girl" just screams her trying to distance herself from Susie. And she's not doing it with Stacy, just Susie. Yes, she may have been a little or a lot jealous about Stacy going with Susie that night instead of staying with Janelle, but it just strikes me as a red flag issue for her to address Susie in such a detached and distancing manor.

I agree with you on this.

 

[Santachrist]

@Santachrist mike im still catching up and we are very appreciative you answering questions.
black and white.
its very helpful.
there is somebody here on websleuths albeit quiet atm who has stated for years that he has spoken with you personally.
can you confirm this to be true or false?
thanks

I haven’t spoken with anyone on this website other than my wife (irisheyes) in person. I have corresponded thru email on several occasions over the years with Missouri Mule.

 

[asyousay]

I haven’t spoken with anyone on this website other than my wife (irisheyes) in person. I have corresponded thru email on several occasions over the years with Missouri Mule.

It’s very interesting that Missouri Mule has stopped posting you and you’re wife started to post.

I think we have all noticed how they have stopped posting.


BTW- not accusing of you being him or anything just it’s odd he now isn’t posting when he always had so much to say.

Also I have been meaning to ask you- had you pawned stuff before and the money you received what did you spend it on?

 

[Santachrist]

It’s very interesting that Missouri Mule has stopped posting you and you’re wife started to post.

I think we have all noticed how they have stopped posting.


BTW- not accusing of you being him or anything just it’s odd he now isn’t posting when he always had so much to say.

Also I have been meaning to ask you- had you pawned stuff before and the money you received what did you spend it on?

I believe the Mule is in poor health. Could be why he has been absent.

I was with my friends when they pawned the gold teeth and the power tool but I didn’t personally pawn anything. Dusty was the only one of us with a picture ID back then. ID was required to pawn anything.

We spent that money on beer and cigarettes.

Edit: spelling

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

Agreed!! Considered the propensity of his crime, it doesn't make any sense for them to lower his bond. So why? Was it possibly some sort of "Deal" that police struck with Garrison for telling them about the "Tip"/"Robb Farm" and other thing? Things that police stated that Garrison knew that hadn't yet been released to the public? Did they make him a deal? Good Question Springfieldman341!!

There's obviously something to Garrison. And he obviously knows what happened. And it's OBVIOUS he's connected directly or indirectly with Mike/Dusty to this crime. Not that either Mike and Dusty are guilty, but that they connect Garrison's criminal group to Levitt and Streeter. How the hell would he know anything or the women show up on his radar when he's out of prison only 3 weeks before the disappearance?

The Grand Jury POIs were claimed to have associations to Garrison in the Kansas prison system. I want to know why these felons are so sought after by the cops. For multiple years. Did they know something vital? Yes. But what?

Smoke. Meet. Fire.

 

[asyousay]

The problem with Garrison is he would of needed somebody to get him into that house imo

So I still think you are looking at one of Suzie’s peer group to have gone to the house that morning IMO

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

The problem with Garrison is he would of needed somebody to get him into that house imo

So I still think you are looking at one of Suzie’s peer group to have gone to the house that morning IMO

I don't disagree.

I don't think Garrison was at the house or even one of the perps. It's possible he was around the crime scene that took place after the perps were done with 1717 Delmar though.

If they could pin this on him, they would immediately.

 

[Santachrist]

There's obviously something to Garrison. And he obviously knows what happened. And it's OBVIOUS he's connected directly or indirectly with Mike/Dusty to this crime. Not that either Mike and Dusty are guilty, but that they connect Garrison's criminal group to Levitt and Streeter. How the hell would he know anything or the women show up on his radar when he's out of prison only 3 weeks before the disappearance?

The Grand Jury POIs were claimed to have associations to Garrison in the Kansas prison system. I want to know why these felons are so sought after by the cops. For multiple years. Did they know something vital? Yes. But what?

Smoke. Meet. Fire.

Peeping tom was reported in a nearby neighborhood right around the time of the disappearance. Could have been Garrison looking thru the windows and noticed Sherrill refinishing furniture all alone.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

Peeping tom was reported in a nearby neighborhood right around the time of the disappearance. Could have been Garrison looking thru the windows and noticed Sherrill refinishing furniture all alone.

Peeping toms have a plan for multiple women walking in on them along with supplies, transport, land to murder cleanly, etc? Not buying it.

 

[intothenight]

Peeping toms have a plan for multiple women walking in on them along with supplies, transport, land to murder cleanly, etc? Not buying it.

I think the "peeping tom" aspect is unlikely to have been linked to this crime, but if someone like Garrison had his eye on Sherrill, I don't think it requires a whole lot more than a vehicle and a weapon for someone like him to make his move. Of course there would have to be some degree of planning for this crime, but all of what you mention above is pretty standard for a perp like this. The land aspect, wasn't Garrison linked with Francis Lee Robb Snr? I may be putting the wrong pieces together with those two, but people like this can keep a code of silence.

 

[Valiant]

So what if this was planned out and waiting on a time that Sherrill and Suzie were together (and alone as they were going to get)? What if Stacy knew what they knew, maybe not even finding out until it was discussed that very night?
What if someone innocently tipped someone off as to Suzie's location (heading home to Sherrill) and that put the plan into motion?

 

[asyousay]

So what if this was planned out and waiting on a time that Sherrill and Suzie were together (and alone as they were going to get)? What if Stacy knew what they knew, maybe not even finding out until it was discussed that very night?
What if someone innocently tipped someone off as to Suzie's location (heading home to Sherrill) and that put the plan into motion?

Yes I have wondered if Suzie was being lead home that morning. Because they was apparently staying ina hotel, then staying at Brian Joys house and also I thought Janelle’s house was a option and too busy.


So that’s a lot of plans that fell though and unfortunately Stacey was caught up in it when she shouldn’t of been as she decided to stay with Suzie

 

[intothenight]

I think one aspect of the timing that is on my mind whenever I contemplate this case.. Bearing in mind, it's pretty clear that it wasn't carried out on a whim - there was at least some degree of planning involved, even if it wasn't originally intended as a triple abduction and murder.

If Suzie and Sherrill were targets, why choose this night to abduct them? They lived alone, there wasn't a regular male presence at Delmar. Suzie being a target... they would know where she worked, presumably when Sherrill was working, and likely when she would be at home alone. There was an anomaly that night, too. How many people knew that the extra car on the driveway was Stacy's and not Bartt's, for example.

It's pretty easy to rule out Stacy here, as already determined. The only theory I've heard that involves around her being targeted is the connection with Cox being employed at her dad's workplace.

Suzie and Stacy - again, they went back to Delmar together by chance. Sure, some random creep could have noticed them at the party and followed them home, but I think it's unlikely. My only question about this is whether they were driving their own cars on the way home. How much did they drink at the parties?

Sherrill stands out here, but that's just my opinion. I've took interest in this crime since I discovered it through the Disappeared episode back in 2012/2013 - and initially I didn't consider her at all. At the end of the day, she was the one who was intended to be home that night, someone with knowledge of her living arrangements would know her daughter would be out partying. Even the most confident of offenders surely doesn't target 3 women in a residence - at least not intentionally. It would be interesting to know if Sherrill unknowingly had contact with the perp, through her work. She was a popular stylist, but I'm wondering if she had private clients or did home visits. I know police reportedly checked out some 250 of her regulars, but was that just through work carried out at the salon?

 

[asyousay]

The reason they knew that was not Barrts car is because they knew the family is my theory.

If this was somebody close to Suzie who laid the trap then they would obviously know she has no relationship with her brother.

Also it was that night because whoever did this was worried Suzie was gonna talk about something she knew. They couldn’t risk her opening her mouth.

All IMO

 

[intothenight]

The reason they knew that was not Barrts car is because they knew the family is my theory.

If this was somebody close to Suzie who laid the trap then they would obviously know she has no relationship with her brother.

Also it was that night because whoever did this was worried Suzie was gonna talk about something she knew. They couldn’t risk her opening her mouth.

All IMO

I should've said.. Bartt or any male friend, acquaintance, family member really

 

[asyousay]

I should've said.. Bartt or any male friend, acquaintance, family member really

Well anybody who knew them would of know no male family.

That’s why I rule out a random sexual predator as they definitely wouldn’t of knowingly gone into a house with 3 cars there. As I have said before for all the weirdo knew a 300 lb man with a gun lived there.

Whatever the target was and I’m positive it was Sherill or Suzie the other one had to go as well because they could of told each other this “secret”.

One of them was in oven their head and had stumbled across or doing something they shouldn’t imo