Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #7

[barefootpoet]

Janelle Kirby and Mike Henson.

OH.... interesting

 

[TexasT]

Suzy Always Parked in the carport . Notice how she’s off in the grass. But Stacy is parked normally . Was someone pulling in from the east or backing out she had to move over ? Was she approached on foot ? Or did someone move the cars when they departed ?

I’ve never heard the cars were towed to the crime lab to be processed . They were still there when 48 hours filmed .


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[Ibiz]

Here's a timeline of the case:
From the news leader: this is the newest article ever written about this case.

http://www.news-leader.com/story/ne...en-went-missing-tips-still-trickle/101753510/

— 1992 —

June 6: Suzie Streeter and Stacy McCall graduate from Kickapoo High School, later attending two graduation parties together. The pair wind up at Streeter’s house at 1717 E. Delmar St. about 2 a.m. June 7.

June 7: A friend calls the house at 8 or 9 a.m. and gets no answer. She stops by a little after noon, but there is no sign of the girls or Suzie’s mother, Sherrill Levitt. Police are called late that evening.

June 8: Police begin investigating the case. The unlocked house appears as if the women simply vanished while getting ready for bed.

June 9: The FBI is called in.

June 14: Authorities begin a sweep of wooded areas and streams in the Springfield area and search an apartment building after a letter containing a rough drawing of the apartment complex and the phrase, “use Ruse of Gas Man checking for Leak,” is found in a News-Leader rack at a grocery store. Also on this day, pictures of the women air on the television show “America's Most Wanted.”

June 15: Police begin working a fresh tip about a transient who neighbors reported seeing near the home in the days before the women disappeared. A sketch is released, showing a man with long hair and a full beard.

June 16: Police release a photo of a retouched Dodge van, similar to one seen near Levitt and Streeter's home early on June 7.

June 24: Police work on a new tip. A waitress at George’s Steakhouse, one of Levitt’s favorite restaurants, says she saw the three women at the diner between 1 and 3 a.m. June 7. The women arrived and left together. The waitress said Suzie appeared giddy, perhaps intoxicated, and her mom tried to calm her down.

June 28: Police end their 24-hour command post at Levitt’s home.

— 1993 —

Jan. 2: An anonymous New Year’s Eve caller to a switchboard operator of “America's Most Wanted” is cut off when the operator tries to link up with Springfield investigators. Police still seek contact with the man, whom they consider to have prime knowledge of the abductions.

Feb. 14: For the first time, police announce that they are considering the possibility that the disappearances are the work of one or more serial killers.

Aug. 28: Information from an informant leads police to search farmland in Webster County looking for bodies. Police say they find items at the scene, but will not elaborate. The results of the search warrant were sealed.

— 1994 —

A lead prompts authorities to search a section of Bull Shoals Lake, where they find animal remains and pieces of clothing. The clothing does not match the description of what the women were wearing.

— 1995 —

A grand jury disbands in January without handing up indictments. Robert Craig Cox, whose name came up early in the investigation, is arrested in Texas for aggravated robbery. After information on Cox is presented to a grand jury, investigators interview him in a Texas prison. In the grand jury, Cox’s ex-girlfriend tells jurors that she lied when she told police Cox was with her at church the morning of June 7, 1992.

— 1996 —

Former News-Leader reporter Robert Keyes interviews Cox from prison. The inmate tells Keyes he knows the women were killed and buried somewhere in Springfield or close by. “And they’ll never be found.”

— 1997 —

The family of Sherrill Levitt and Suzie Streeter go through court proceedings to declare the two women dead. Stacy’s parents vow that they will not declare their daughter dead until her body is found.

— 2001 —

Maj. Steve Ijames takes command of the Criminal Investigations Section and reopens several cold cases, including that of the three missing women.

— 2002 —

Springfield police write Cox a letter, requesting an interview. He declines. Also this year, Webster County authorities dig near an abandoned slaughterhouse south of Marshfield. They find teeth and bone fragments estimated to be about 100 years old.

—2003 —

Following new tips, investigators check an old farm about five miles south of Cassville. Cadaver-seeking dogs show interest in various areas. Tires, trash, a motorcycle and sections of a green vehicle are dug up from the surrounding farmland. DNA samples taken from an abandoned house on the property are sent to a lab for testing, but no match is found.

— 2006 —

A group of amateur detectives go to Springfield police and Greene County Prosecutor Darrell Moore with their theory that the three women are buried under a parking garage near Cox South hospital. Authorities decide not to dig under the garage, saying there isn’t enough evidence to warrant the cost of digging.
— 2010 —
Paul Williams, Springfield's new police chief, initiates a review of the case, which extends into 2012.
— 2012 —
Springfield police investigators travel to Virginia and present their review of the case to a panel of 25 criminal-justice investigators assembled by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

 

[Ibiz]

If you read that article you will learn that the police had a 24 hour command post set up at the Delmar house until June 28th.

 

[Ibiz]

Suzy Always Parked in the carport . Notice how she’s off in the grass. But Stacy is parked normally .

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I did notice how she was parked on the grass, but if she was "buzzed" like the waitress at George's said, then it would explain why she over shot the grass. It certainly does not look like her car had been backed up to that position.

From what I read this was Stacy's first visit to the house and she was following behind Suzie, so that may also explain why she parked where she parked. Also, being so late she may have none that she had to use the front door.

 

[Ibiz]

Also, if they were going to George's they probably would have taken Sherrell's car.

 

[Ibiz]

If Suzie's usual path was using the west entrance but instead the east entrance was used to park that night would indeed be a strong indication that a vehicle was likely parked behind Ms Streeter's at 2:30ish AM when they arrived home. The girls apparently had enough of a comfort level with that individual to settle down for the night i.e. removing their make-up and turning on a movie.

If there was a visiter at the house at 2:30am, it's not likely that Stacey would have taken off her clothes and hopped in bed. Suzie's bedroom had no door.

Also, for your theory to work, I'm assuming your alleging that Sherrell and Suzie knew the kidnappers, then one of them would of had to have access to an old dodge van. Which I'm sure the police and the FBI would have zeroed in on very quickly.

Let me put into english. If the front porch lady saw a young lady hat looked like Suzie who was terrified and crying pulling into a driveway just down the road from the Delmar house at 6:30am, and if we assume that the woman was not halusinatting then we would have to assume that it is somewhat of a coinsidents.

Wouldn't you think?

Now, what if the police had other reports of this van that we have not even been told about?

Wouldn't you think that it would be safe to say that the abductors used such a van in the abduction of the 3MW?

Everything can't be a coinsidents you know.

 

[Ibiz]

I’ve had one fall and break for no apparent reason. The screws that hold those globes in place can fail pretty easily from repeated vibrations of the door closing.

So here we have another coinsidents where the globe fell and broke on the same night of the abduction.

In my opinion, I think the globe fell and broke when the door was moved very hard or when a heavy vibration took place the wall.

 

[Ibiz]

I was in Montana at the time but my recollection is that this case was a big deal and it was covered in “USA Today”. I didn’t think much more about it until I returned to work and one of my techs where I worked started talking about it like it was a big deal.

I also recall that the Springfield News-leader had a lot of information on the front page, and every day thereafter And the “48 Hours” jumped in and from then on it was off to the races.

i would have to say it was a very big deal going on memory.

Yes, the case made it's way to AMW within a week, and that could be when the waitress at George's realized the signifacants. Just because their was a flyer hanging on the board dosent mean she knew about it.

Also, with the case being so famous, and so many tips pouring in, the waitress could have reported what she saw on June 8th, and it took the police two weeks to get back with her.

The news just says when the tip was investigated it never says when it was reported .

 

[barefootpoet]

If there was a visiter at the house at 2:30am, it's not likely that Stacey would have taken off her clothes and hopped in bed. Suzie's bedroom had no door.

Also, for your theory to work, I'm assuming your alleging that Sherrell and Suzie knew the kidnappers, then one of them would of had to have access to an old dodge van. Which I'm sure the police and the FBI would have zeroed in on very quickly.

Let me put into english. If the front porch lady saw a young lady hat looked like Suzie who was terrified and crying pulling into a driveway just down the road from the Delmar house at 6:30am, and if we assume that the woman was not halusinatting then we would have to assume that it is somewhat of a coincidence.

Wouldn't you think?

Now, what if the police had other reports of this van that we have not even been told about?

Wouldn't you think that it would be safe to say that the abductors used such a van in the abduction of the 3MW?

Everything can't be a coincidence you know.

I don't believe the "Porch Lady's" information is credible since it required hypnosis. No solid lead was developed despite the Spfd police placing a facsimile of the van in front of the station. Don't you think if your neighbor down the street or someone you knew drove such a UGLY green van you'd know it?

I don't necessary advocate that there was a early morning visitor however in the context of discussions of a possible parked vehicle when the girls arrived there then a "known" person would be the only explanation.

 

[Missouri Mule]

Suzy Always Parked in the carport . Notice how she’s off in the grass. But Stacy is parked normally . Was someone pulling in from the east or backing out she had to move over ? Was she approached on foot ? Or did someone move the cars when they departed ?

I’ve never heard the cars were towed to the crime lab to be processed . They were still there when 48 hours filmed .


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You have hit on something that has bugged me for years. I never could understand how someone who had lived there for two months would not have parked on the pavement. There was ample room.

A couple of thoughts come to mind. Either Suzie was being careless or someone parked it there. Perhaps they pulled out going west and needed to clear the vehicles. They certainly would not have wanted to leave tire prints.

 

[Missouri Mule]

I don't believe the "Porch Lady's" information is credible since it required hypnosis. No solid lead was developed despite the Spfd police placing a facsimile of the van in front of the station. Don't you think if your neighbor down the street or someone you knew drove such a UGLY green van you'd know it?

I don't necessary advocate that there was a early morning visitor however in the context of discussions of a possible parked vehicle when the girls arrived there then a "known" person would be the only explanation.

This is a point worth exploring.

For a long time I believed the key to this crime was in locating the van. I drove several hundred miles in a vain effort to locate it.

However when I saw an identical van, except for the paint scheme, the officer the 48 hours expressed zero interest in it and said he would see I would be fired if I “interfered” in the case. This was so disturbing to me personally I sought out the counsel of three other LE agencies and have spoken to numerous other officers and to a man no one could offer an explanation.

Not coincidentally., the same officer had told the MSHP that their services were unneeded.

But as to the “Porch Lady” account I put almost no credence in it for a basic reason. The timeline simply doesn’t fit.

But beyond that was the account told me by someone who was in the presence of the hypnosis session. ‘S.B.”, now deceased told me that the session was cut prematurely short when the alleged witness became ‘hysterical.’ I gathered that very little interest was inferred in her account. The officer who conducted the session was the same officer who threatened my job.

The stated reason she was said to be a credible witness is that she and her husband had owned a used car business and she was capable of recognizing the various makes and models

 

[TexasT]

Also, if they were going to George's they probably would have taken Sherrell's car.

The only identification from the George’s waitress was that she was “ loud and rude “ that’s hardly a discripion of Suzy .

Sadly , her and porch lady were among hundereds of bad leads . Weather they were seeking attention or what their motives were I can’t say .

 

[flute4peace]

This is a point worth exploring.

For a long time I believed the key to this crime was in locating the van. I drove several hundred miles in a vain effort to locate it.

However when I saw an identical van, except for the paint scheme, the officer the 48 hours expressed zero interest in it and said he would see I would be fired if I “interfered” in the case. This was so disturbing to me personally I sought out the counsel of three other LE agencies and have spoken to numerous other officers and to a man no one could offer an explanation.

Not coincidentally., the same officer had told the MSHP that their services were unneeded.

But as to the “Porch Lady” account I put almost no credence in it for a basic reason. The timeline simply doesn’t fit.

But beyond that was the account told me by someone who was in the presence of the hypnosis session. ‘S.B.”, now deceased told me that the session was cut prematurely short when the alleged witness became ‘hysterical.’ I gathered that very little interest was inferred in her account. The officer who conducted the session was the same officer who threatened my job.

The stated reason she was said to be a credible witness is that she and her husband had owned a used car business and she was capable of recognizing the various makes and models

I've heard you mention the threat to your job in other posts. Did you work in an LE capacity? If not, how could they do that?

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[Missouri Mule]

I've heard you mention the threat to your job in other posts. Did you work in an LE capacity? If not, how could they do that?

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No, I was employed the State of Missouri in the Divison of Child Enforcement.

I was merely driving to work when I spotted what appeared to be a newly painted blue van of that era. I asked my wife to take down the tag number. I then dropped her off at her job about a block away.

As I was circling the downtown area on my way to the parking lot I saw a black and white police cruiser. I flagged him down and gave him the information and he left in pursuit of this vehicle.

I parked my car and went into the State Office Building and to my office. I then came into further information and called the police station in an attempt to pass this information along to the officer I had spoken to earlier. I was instead connected to another officer who issued the threat. It was probably a threat to accomplice some purpose but to this date, I have no clue why this would be done. Nor did the Missouri State Highway Patrol officer I spoke to at their offices on East Kearney as I was quite concerned why this happened. The Missouri State Highway Patrol has a sterling reputation. I knew I would get a fair hearing.

It was then I also learned that the SPD had told them their services were unneeded. I found that odd to the present day.

If you think that I have grave reservations about the SPD, you would be correct.

I say this as one who has never has any LE negative experience in my lifetime and I support LE fully. But that experience left a very bad taste in my mouth. Wholly unexpected.

 

[barefootpoet]

This is a point worth exploring.

For a long time I believed the key to this crime was in locating the van. I drove several hundred miles in a vain effort to locate it.

However when I saw an identical van, except for the paint scheme, the officer the 48 hours expressed zero interest in it and said he would see I would be fired if I “interfered” in the case. This was so disturbing to me personally I sought out the counsel of three other LE agencies and have spoken to numerous other officers and to a man no one could offer an explanation.

Not coincidentally., the same officer had told the MSHP that their services were unneeded.

But as to the “Porch Lady” account I put almost no credence in it for a basic reason. The timeline simply doesn’t fit.

But beyond that was the account told me by someone who was in the presence of the hypnosis session. ‘S.B.”, now deceased told me that the session was cut prematurely short when the alleged witness became ‘hysterical.’ I gathered that very little interest was inferred in her account. The officer who conducted the session was the same officer who threatened my job.

The stated reason she was said to be a credible witness is that she and her husband had owned a used car business and she was capable of recognizing the various makes and models

Hmmm maybe you should have mentioned that driver of that van sure looked like they was wearing wing tipped shoes...LOL

 

[Ibiz]

I don't believe the "Porch Lady's" information is credible since it required hypnosis.

Hypnosis is simply just a guided imagery process to try and help someone remember extra details about an event. It does not mean that the event did not take place. It means that the woman was probably unsure of the make, year, model, and color of the van. She was probably so focused on what she saw and heard in the van that all other stuff was secondary. I'm the same way, I can see a vehicle, and ten minutes later tell you it was black, but infact it was white.

The fact of the matter is the event still took place, and we know that it was a van, and it was PROBABLY SUZIE STREETER DRIVING IT.

Now, there is nothing full proof about guieded imager/hypnosis so it's possible that we may have the wrong color/make of the van, but rest assured I'm sure the police had received other reports of something that lead them to believe what they believe.

You are not way above all the investigators that have worked on this case, so like I said in the beginning, if this was the work of some kids from the Kickapoo High School, I'm sure the police and FBI would have figured that out way before you had thought of it.

SO STICK TO THE FACTS!

 

[Ibiz]

Hey, you guys, who is this Larry and Dewayne Hall? Can you do a check on them? It seems that one of them drove a van similar to what we know about the abductions, and also traveled to Springfield quiet a bit. Maybe I'm peaing on a spark plug, but let me know.

From the little bit I read, it seems that they were in the business of invading homes and murding people. One article I read says that one of these brothers and a friend were in springfield in the summer of 1992 while traveling the country for their civil war reanactments.

 

[TexasT]

Hypnosis is simply just a guided imagery process to try and help someone remember extra details about an event. It does not mean that the event did not take place. It means that the woman was probably unsure of the make, year, model, and color of the van. She was probably so focused on what she saw and heard in the van that all other stuff was secondary. I'm the same way, I can see a vehicle, and ten minutes later tell you it was black, but infact it was white.

The fact of the matter is the event still took place, and we know that it was a van, and it was PROBABLY SUZIE STREETER DRIVING IT.

Now, there is nothing full proof about guieded imager/hypnosis so it's possible that we may have the wrong color/make of the van, but rest assured I'm sure the police had received other reports of something that lead them to believe what they believe.

You are not way above all the investigators that have worked on this case, so like I said in the beginning, if this was the work of some kids from the Kickapoo High School, I'm sure the police and FBI would have figured that out way before you had thought of it.

SO STICK TO THE FACTS!

So you believe her account ?


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[Ibiz]

So you believe her account ?


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I believe she saw something. Im just saying, as far as make/model/color, and other details could be wrong.

Like I was saying, there's been times when I saw a boat or car or what ever, and just hours later I could swear it was one color or make and I turned out to be wrong.

Also, hypnosis might be helpful with some people, but I personal don't think it's very effective on a lot of people. I guess there might be some people that would be better at it. It's like an art like drawing. A sketch artist has to be good at gather things from someone's memery.

So what I'm thinking at this point is the FPL saw something, and it was probably a van or a station wagon for all we know, but the part about a scared and frightened young girl would be hard to forget exspecially with the mans voice coming from the back of the vehicle. So I'm going to assume it was a van because a station wagon would just have to many windows.