Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #8

[asyousay]

I have a question.

Why does Doug Thomas (lead investigator after Asher) think Steve Garrison has all the answers to this case? Enough to where it leads to a search in Marshfield and Fordland?

Check attached.

Well the bodies were not found so what kind of credibility does Garrison have?

 

[cherrymeg]

Amen.......she seemed 'smug' to me, like laughing at the young man. Saying the person's hair was too long, something like that. I assume Sherrill had been awakened and didn't do-up her hair like in the photos.

Make up and having your hair done can change the way a person looks. I sometimes wonder when you see a missing person flyer and they are made up and have flattering pictures if people would recognize them if they were living on the streets. I don't mean that is the case here. I just think eye witness accounts were ignored because of Sherrill rushing out in the middle of the night.

 

[asyousay]

Author: The Associated Press

SPRINGFIELD - An FBI violent crime specialist theorizes that three missing women were abducted by someone at least one of them trusted, and the abductor probably had help from one or more others.

Authorities want to talk with people who may unwillingly have become involved in a possibly unplanned abduction, said James Wright of the bureau's National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime.

"I think they (other people) were brought into this not knowing what was going to happen. It's quite possible that the primary person did not know what was going to happen," Wright said.

So this doesn’t fit Cox, Garrison or the 3rd sexual predator to me.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Well the bodies were not found so what kind of credibility does Garrison have?

Maybe.

Why are the cops putting a lot of eggs in his basket?

Re-read it. I’m not necessarily talking about Garrison or his credibility. WHY did the cops execute searches based on his statements and why after two years was he the prime POI?

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

So this doesn’t fit Cox, Garrison or the 3rd sexual predator to me.

Agreed. I don’t think Garrison did it.

I want to know why the cops were hellbent on him providing info.

 

[asyousay]

Agreed. I don’t think Garrison did it.

I want to know why the cops were hellbent on him providing info.

Was this the search where there was a gag order?

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Was this the search where there was a gag order?

Yes.

 

[asyousay]

Yes.

Missouri Mule claims anything he has ever said never planned out. But I have no idea if that’s true.

He must of had something at the beginning for them to buy what he was saying and do a search and gag order.

But it’s like how I don’t buy Cox saying he knows where they are buried and that he knows they are dead. That’s just common sense, I can say with certainty they are dead. That does not mean I know anything.

 

[Blue Girl1991]

The crime happened so soon to Suzie's testimony date , is it really a Coincidence? I was pretty sure that the grave robbers did it but during the time I started to think why commit such a crime when they were not going to be punished in such a harsh way due to their criminal activity , even with Suzie's testimony,

so it might be higher league criminals who were afraid that during Suzies testimony their criminal activity might be in danger and also their freedom.
criminals who had some connection with the grave-robbers ( even not a direct connection)

Another possibility :
the criminals did not have any connection to the grave robbers ,but even then I still believe that the motive was related to information that Sherrill and Suzie had.

Sherrill was alone a few hours so why the criminals didn't kidnapped her? its looks like they waited to Suzie becouse the plan was to silence both of the them.

I believe it was well planned crime committed by professionals who sadly also had all the luck in world ( contaminated crime scene by the visitors)

I strongly believe that the only one who failed in the polygraph test might be the key, if we knew who is it we could check his past if he has some drug activity or was related to a gang , if he was then it might lead to the other criminals who had connection to this person and that might lead to a break in this case.

Why the police keep his name secret for 26 years?
I am asking becouse that's might be what is delaying the solution of the crime and justice for the poor women.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Clay and Recla have not done one thing that makes me think they're guilty in this.

A testimony from Suzie isn't even a good motive to kidnap her, her mother, and friend.

Not buying it. The cops investigated both Kovacs and Recla extensively. That's why Worsham said he thinks the perp is in the Levitt background or transient.

Did you know there were tons of cons doing stupid stuff the time Clay did? What makes Clay guilty? The fact that he was tripping acid with Suzie's ex-boyfriend and being dumb?

 

[Blue Girl1991]

Clay and Recla have not done one thing that makes me think they're guilty in this.

A testimony from Suzie isn't even a good motive to kidnap her, her mother, and friend.

Not buying it. The cops investigated both Kovacs and Recla extensively. That's why Worsham said he thinks the perp is in the Levitt background or transient.

Did you know there were tons of cons doing stupid stuff the time Clay did? What makes Clay guilty? The fact that he was tripping acid with Suzie's ex-boyfriend and being dumb?

These days I also think that the grave robbers didn't had the ability to commit this crime ,but the motive of the crime was to silenced the women ( by unknown criminals

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Even then I still believe that the motive was related to information that Sherrill and Suzie had.

Sherrill was alone a few hours so why the criminals didn't kidnapped her? its looks like they waited to Suzie becouse the plan was to silence both of the them.

I believe it was well planned crime committed by professionals who sadly also had all the luck in world ( contaminated crime scene by the visitors)

Ding ding ding!!

I think you are onto something here. Minus grave robber talk. The rest of what you say seems very likely.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Also, why did the criminals get Sherrill out of the house if Apco sighting is to be true?

 

[asyousay]

Well according to Sherrills friends she didn’t have enemy’s and she was as close to mother Teresa as you could get.

So who would want to hurt her?

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Well according to Sherrills friends she didn’t have enemy’s and she was as close to mother Teresa as you could get.

So who would want to hurt her?

It's the number 1 question. I think it could be Sherrill was used to get to Suzie. Just my own theory. But back to the facts, yes she was a saint. But she had bad luck with men in the past. That we also know.

 

[asyousay]

It's the number 1 question. I think it could be Sherrill was used to get to Suzie. Just my own theory. But back to the facts, yes she was a saint. But she had bad luck with men in the past. That we also know.

To be fair so did Suzie and she was 17/18 at the time. One was abusive I thought and one was a grave robber so not exactly a good track record when you consider she was a teenager. She also lived with one of them as well which also seems mighty strange considering her age. I’m amazed Sherrill allowed it to happen and then to move in with her alcoholic brother so out of frying pan into the fire. Suzie doesn’t seem like the typical teenager to me.


ETA - I am not blaming Suzie in any shape or form just wondering if she did cross paths with some undesirable men along her travels!!

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Sherrill is the only target unless Suzie was combined target, which is possible since she was looking for Suzie around Apco.

Doubt Suzie was the target with the last minute change in plans... I think Wright is “right” in that this was highly orchestrated and the perps knew the house and occupants well.

 

[Talullah]

Also, why did the criminals get Sherrill out of the house if Apco sighting is to be true?

Maybe Sherrill was truly looking for Suzie and 2 friends at the gas station in response to a phone call from Suzie.

 

[Betty P]

Was this the search where there was a gag order?

Yes. IIRC, there was unique information about the crime that Garrison provided that had not been released to the public. That would be a good reason to do the searches. So was Garrison just playing with LE? Does he really know where they're buried? IIRC the scenario LE developed that involved Garrison also involved other perps.

 

[Betty P]

Sherrill is the only target unless Suzie was combined target, which is possible since she was looking for Suzie around Apco.

Doubt Suzie was the target with the last minute change in plans... I think Wright is “right” in that this was highly orchestrated and the perps knew the house and occupants well.

It's also possible that one of the killers was also at the parties that night and knew of her plans to return home. I'm still of the opinion that Suzie possibly called her mom and told her of their plans to come home.