Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #9

[cherrymeg]

IMHO I believe this was a well planned out attack and they was just waiting for the right time to do it. It’s just unfortunate Stacey was in the wrong place and the wrong time. I think they (perps) saw the opportunity or was ordered early that morning to go to Delmar and carry out the crime. I may be wrong but I certainly think it’s possible to have happened this way.

It could have been a person or people interested in Suzie and Stacy. They could have been followed home or never made it inside the Delmar house. Graduation makes things unpredictable. Plans change, parties get broken up by cops, and you have out of town relatives.

 

[Summer bliss]

It could have been a person or people interested in Suzie and Stacy. They could have been followed home or never made it inside the Delmar house. Graduation makes things unpredictable. Plans change, parties get broken up by cops, and you have out of town relatives.

I agree, anything is possible. Until the spd release more if any information we will never know what really happened.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

For the people saying it can’t be the grave robbers then explain why 2 skipped town shortly after the girls vanished?

Sorry they had a motive and they can’t be ruled out imo

Good point. Michael Clay sure seemed suspect, "I hope the b's are dead." Of course that's also pretty dumb to say if he was a killer.
To me, it was an emotional response but he may be 'not too smart'? His Satanic Home decor didn't help his cause.

 

[Ozoner]

I agree, anything is possible. Until the spd release more if any information we will never know what really happened.

It doesn't seem like they were particularly adept at gathering information. I'm not convinced that they have any relevant information to release other than the identity of the person who failed a polygraph test, and I don't believe they would release that information prior to charging him. (I know that many people have assumed that it was Randy Little. but I'm not convinced that Little would have agreed to take a polygraph test.)

Good point. Michael Clay sure seemed suspect, "I hope the b's are dead." Of course that's also pretty dumb to say if he was a killer.
To me, it was an emotional response but he may be 'not too smart'? His Satanic Home decor didn't help his cause.

I'm more suspicious of DR and his brother than I am of MC, but I think that it could have been any one of the three grave robbers.

 

[54-46]

Suzie's testimony would have bumped the dearly convicted to avoid prison by grassing on a drug dealer, and the nervousness ran up the chain of command to the money men.

That sort of possibility made Suzie a supergrass, and Suzie the Supergrass had to go. Mom and friend collateral damage of the drug dealers.

Be careful how you grave-rob and be careful what you know.

This above seems the right stuff, I pledge allegiance to this line of thinking.

Great case, I do wish I had all of your knowledges.

 

[Blue Girl1991]

So how did they know Suzie was going back home that night - her plans had changed by ALL accounts.

The Grave robbers might know much more than what they told to the police but I don't think they are the killers, But of course I may be wrong.
There are so many theories and there is probably many information that the detectives have through all these years ,information that we don't have.

I read about cases that solved even after 30-40 years so why not this case?
I just hope that the current detective who work on this case is Full of desire to solve this kidnapping-murder case and bring justice to the victims and to the families after such a long time.

 

[cherrymeg]

The Grave robbers might know much more than what they told to the police but I don't think they are the killers, But of course I may be wrong.
There are so many theories and there is probably many information that the detectives have through all these years ,information that we don't have.

I read about cases that solved even after 30-40 years so why not this case?
I just hope that the current detective who work on this case is Full of desire to solve this kidnapping-murder case and bring justice to the victims and to the families after such a long time.

You should contact Cold Justice. I think this case needs a new set of eyes and maybe people that aren't from the community. It can be hard to judge neighbors and friends objectively.
Cold Justice

 

[Blue Girl1991]

You should contact Cold Justice. I think this case needs a new set of eyes and maybe people that aren't from the community. It can be hard to judge neighbors and friends objectively.
Cold Justice

Thank you for the link cherrymeg
it's excellent idea! if many people will contact them regarding this case then
maybe something will move forward and the day of Closure and justice will finally comes.

 

[cherrymeg]

Suzie's testimony would have bumped the dearly convicted to avoid prison by grassing on a drug dealer, and the nervousness ran up the chain of command to the money men.

That sort of possibility made Suzie a supergrass, and Suzie the Supergrass had to go. Mom and friend collateral damage of the drug dealers.

Be careful how you grave-rob and be careful what you know.

Would her testimony have been that big of a deal? Has it been confirmed that it went beyond grave-robbing? The pawn shop owner or clerk was the one that alerted the police. She could have been subpoenaed (sp?) to testify to seeing them at the graveyard or carrying around teeth. Just as evidence that those teeth did not come from relatives deceased or otherwise.
People seem to suggest Suzie and her mom were involved with drugs.I haven't seen or heard anything that makes me think it's true. Sherrill was a single mom and Suzie did have the freedom to move in with her brother. Having a less than traditional family or even questionable taste in men doesn't mean you are knowledgable about a drug ring. If Suzie's ex and his friends were involved in selling drugs not just doing them, they seem like the liability. Suzie wasn't on acid using a skull as a torch.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

IMO the targets should have been the 3 Grave Robbers.
They were the weak links in the chain.
IMO they wouldn't have made such a HUGE impact on the community.

 

[cherrymeg]

IMO the targets should have been the 3 Grave Robbers.
They were the weak links in the chain.
IMO they wouldn't have made such a HUGE impact on the community.

They would have been written off as running away to avoid jail if there were no bodies. If they dealt drugs why were they pawning teeth? Is it possible they used more than they sold, or dealt here and there to support their drug use? Is there a reason I'm blanking on, or has it never been confirmed why people believe there are ties to high level drug distribution? Buying and even selling drugs doesn't mean you know anything. If you know the name of the person you get drugs from that's more than a lot of people know.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Would her testimony have been that big of a deal? Has it been confirmed that it went beyond grave-robbing? The pawn shop owner or clerk was the one that alerted the police. She could have been subpoenaed (sp?) to testify to seeing them at the graveyard or carrying around teeth. Just as evidence that those teeth did not come from relatives deceased or otherwise.
People seem to suggest Suzie and her mom were involved with drugs.I haven't seen or heard anything that makes me think it's true. Sherrill was a single mom and Suzie did have the freedom to move in with her brother. Having a less than traditional family or even questionable taste in men doesn't mean you are knowledgable about a drug ring. If Suzie's ex and his friends were involved in selling drugs not just doing them, they seem like the liability. Suzie wasn't on acid using a skull as a torch.

Sorta what I said...LoL

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20:15 Court date was Sept. '92...Suzie wasn't aware (of theft) til it was done.
Yep, she did not light the skull torch. From what I gather, contrary to an earlier comment, she was not present when the skulls were stolen. On the video, it states Recla was the driver and skulls were found in some trees located in a park.

The young men, IMO, were the 'weak links' in the chain.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

They would have been written off as running away to avoid jail if there were no bodies. If they dealt drugs why were they pawning teeth? Is it possible they used more than they sold, or dealt here and there to support their drug use? Is there a reason I'm blanking on, or has it never been confirmed why people believe there are ties to high level drug distribution? Buying and even selling drugs doesn't mean you know anything. If you know the name of the person you get drugs from that's more than a lot of people know.

Supposedly.....it goes back to Steve Garrison who (possibly) got them from a member of the GGMC.

 

[cherrymeg]

Supposedly.....it goes back to Steve Garrison who (possibly) got them from a member of the GGMC.

If drug dealers kill off their clients or people who know they sell drugs they not only lack business sense but they become a liability to whoever they buy drugs from.

 

[Ozoner]

If Suzie's ex and his friends were involved in selling drugs not just doing them, they seem like the liability. Suzie wasn't on acid using a skull as a torch.

Snipped.

IMO the targets should have been the 3 Grave Robbers.
They were the weak links in the chain.
IMO they wouldn't have made such a HUGE impact on the community.

I agree with the above sentiments. Suzie as the target of high-level drug dealers doesn't seem very likely.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Unless they were the ones that expressed concern to someone higher up the chain, about Susie narking everyone out to the cops. Then "They" wouldn't have been considered the weak link, She would have. And that's what I think is the most likely scenario. They weren't worried about the Grave Robbers, as much as they were Susie, because "She" was considered the "Nark", not them.

JMO.

 

[k-mac]

Unless they were the ones that expressed concern to someone higher up the chain, about Susie narking everyone out to the cops. Then "They" wouldn't have been considered the weak link, She would have. And that's what I think is the most likely scenario. They weren't worried about the Grave Robbers, as much as they were Susie, because "She" was considered the "Nark", not them.

JMO.

well what is interesting about this situation is....
the court case was iirc only weeks away and also iirc without suzies testimony the case was dropped.

anyone who doesn't find this piece of information a huge red flag needs to look again.

 

[flute4peace]

Unless they were the ones that expressed concern to someone higher up the chain, about Susie narking everyone out to the cops. Then "They" wouldn't have been considered the weak link, She would have. And that's what I think is the most likely scenario. They weren't worried about the Grave Robbers, as much as they were Susie, because "She" was considered the "Nark", not them.

JMO.

I agree. And I think the word “percieved” is important to keep in mind. Even if she wasn’t a big threat in reality, if they *thought* she was a threat that creates the motive. Especially if there was more than one perceived threat or extenuating circumstance. If that makes sense?

 

[beebosox]

IMO the targets should have been the 3 Grave Robbers.
They were the weak links in the chain.
IMO they wouldn't have made such a HUGE impact on the community.

I wish so too.

 

[beebosox]

well what is interesting about this situation is....
the court case was iirc only weeks away and also iirc without suzies testimony the case was dropped.

anyone who doesn't find this piece of information a huge red flag needs to look again.

One of the - if not the - most important planks in the boardwalk if one tries to travel down the 3MW roadway, and instead many just brush off explaining the cause and effect nature of this most sterling signpost.