Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #9

[Buckleysangel]

I haven't read all of the threads on this case so I apologize if I repeat what someone else may have said about this. I lived in NW Arkansas at the time of this disappearance and if I remember correctly, Sherrill and Suzie had just moved into the house. I theorize that the broken porch light has nothing to do with the disappearance but was broken during the move into the house.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Why did they Walk according to Mr. Appley from the Joy residence they had returned to, to Ms Kirby's house which wasn't right around the corner as they told the story, but according to Google Maps, over 1-mile away.
And Mr. Appleby stated he watched them drive away.

Well, Janelle said she then went into her house for the night. So what did Shane do, walk back to the Joy house to retrieve his jeep, on a dark country road, over 1-mile away, in the middle of the night? Why didn't one of the girls give him a ride back to his jeep. Why didn't they take his Jeep to Janelles house also, instead of walking over 1-mile.
None of their story's make sense.

Okay, I agree, I'm not 100% convinced they ever made it to Sherrill's.

I'm a bit confused though...
"And Mr. Appleby stated he watched them drive away."

Did the Appleby's live next to the Joy's?
I 'assumed' Appleby lived in Spfld. OR was Mr. Appleby at the Joy's residence (as a chaperone?)

 

[MooseMeMuch]

I haven't read all of the threads on this case so I apologize if I repeat what someone else may have said about this. I lived in NW Arkansas at the time of this disappearance and if I remember correctly, Sherrill and Suzie had just moved into the house. I theorize that the broken porch light has nothing to do with the disappearance but was broken during the move into the house.

It could have been bumped and loosened (during the move) but there was broken glass on the porch, according to Janelle and Mike....

Mike put the pieces into a nearby dumpster.

 

[Buckleysangel]

In thinking along the lines of Sherrill and Suzie just moving into the house; any utility service technician that visited the house to turn on a service should have been investigated as well.

 

[Buckleysangel]

It could have been bumped and loosened (during the move) but there was broken glass on the porch, according to Janelle and Mike....

Mike put the pieces into a nearby dumpster.

My reasoning comes from the idea that they generally entered and existed through the side door at the carport and rarely used the front door. The glass could have been forgotten in the rush of moving and graduation activities.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Couple of early in the investigation.....news articles....

 

[dunwich]

I haven't read all of the threads on this case so I apologize if I repeat what someone else may have said about this. I lived in NW Arkansas at the time of this disappearance and if I remember correctly, Sherrill and Suzie had just moved into the house. I theorize that the broken porch light has nothing to do with the disappearance but was broken during the move into the house.

Yes. One of the reddest herrings this case produced.

 

[asyousay]

Couple of early in the investigation.....news articles....

Thanks for this so Mike Kovac was violent towards Suzie and made threats after they broke up including intimidation and slashing her tiers with mystery woman.

 

[k-mac]

I haven't read all of the threads on this case so I apologize if I repeat what someone else may have said about this. I lived in NW Arkansas at the time of this disappearance and if I remember correctly, Sherrill and Suzie had just moved into the house. I theorize that the broken porch light has nothing to do with the disappearance but was broken during the move into the house.

Yes. One of the reddest herrings this case produced.

right...
such a non event for the meticulious house keeper sherrill but problematic enough that strangers to the house feel compelled to clean it up and remove it from the premises???

the exact day 3 people are abducted from said premises

 

[Blue Girl1991]

I still believe that the appearance of the clothes and the cars being found the next day shows that stacy and Suzie made back home and the kidnapping happened a short time afterwards , These criminals were very Calculated , it was (sadly) very well planed, like someone ordered a hit, the purses were stage by the criminals.

I think that if it was a crime of revenge they would kill the woman and leave them in the house but They got orders not just to assassinate the women,
the order was to make them disappear, someone paid money to a perps
to commit the crime .

I wonder if the police really searched very deep regarding every character that was in the lives of Suzie and Sherrill , every one of the rough crowd that was familiar with Susie /

I also wondered if The woman's families took a private investigator during these very long years and if so I would be interested to know what was their theories.

 

[chestnut&bypass]

right...
such a non event for the meticulious house keeper sherrill but problematic enough that strangers to the house feel compelled to clean it up and remove it from the premises???

the exact day 3 people are abducted from said premises

I'm with k-mac on this one....

 

[Blue Girl1991]

Couple of early in the investigation.....news articles....

Thank you MooseMeMuch for all the articles, it's very interesting to read
and really feel the atmosphere in that days, and also get more detailed information
regarding the case, as if it had only happened just a few days ago.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

I agree with Blue Girl.

The women 100% made it back to Delmar. Suggesting otherwise gets into Boogie Man conspiracy zone.

The fact is, the crime scene could be staged but that doesn’t mean they all didn’t make it. No one stopped them mid transit then called the mom, kill her, clean up mess, then drive back to Delmar and stage things. Logic doesn’t add up.

Too many moving parts for that to work cleanly.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

I think the answers are in the background of one or more of the grave robbers.

Never mind how weird and anti-social their behavior was but you have motive too. At least partially.

For Garrison to be Doug Thomas’s chief informant on the case. Mike hanging with Garrison and Gallopping Gooses. Hello!!!

 

[Missouri Mule]

Couple of early in the investigation.....news articles....

Very good information. Thank you very much.

In reading it over, I noticed there was an unidentified woman with Kovacs. Can’t say I had seen that previously. Why would she be threatening Suzie?

I also noticed the APCO clerk evidently wasn’t entirely certain of the car Sherrill was driving. He eventually settled on the blue Eclipse, however.

 

[Missouri Mule]

I think the answers are in the background of one or more of the grave robbers.

Never mind how weird and anti-social their behavior was but you have motive too. At least partially.

For Garrison to be Doug Thomas’s chief informant on the case. Mike hanging with Garrison and Gallopping Gooses. Hello!!!

I have read all of your posts and believe you are spot on without exception.

I don’t like to ask for speculation but I would like to ask you a couple of questions.

As you may or may not know, Garrison phoned me at home from where he is or was housed several months ago. Evidently he wanted to convey that any perceived threats I might have (I didn’t) were unfounded.

I found him to be very cordial and would invite him to visit in my home any time he wished should he regain his freedom. I have thought of penning a letter to him to continue the short discussion.

I asked him two things that I found odd. One was regarding his exit from the hotel and why he left via a window. He corrected me and said he merely walked out of an open door.

The second oddity was that he said he did not know the apparent biker who threatened his defense attorney. He said he did not know the individual. It seems logical that it was to send a “message” of some kind. My recollection is that he agreed with me. In any event after that incident the defense case went south and he received the substantial sentences for the rape conviction. Reading the defense attorney’s response after the trial concluded seemed to be he was glad to be done and over with the case.

As to the crypt vandals, I have had many discussions with Michael Clay but never with Dustin Recla or Joseph Reidel. Some were cordial but most were not. I sensed that they didn’t want to stir the waters at this time.

What I don’t understand is what the actual motive was. And nobody I have discussed this with would offer up an opinion.

 

[chestnut&bypass]

Just wanted to send a "shout out" to the penalty box....get back in the game soon, cherrymeg. Forum is rather quiet without your contribution

 

[k-mac]

I agree with Blue Girl.

The women 100% made it back to Delmar. Suggesting otherwise gets into Boogie Man conspiracy zone.

The fact is, the crime scene could be staged but that doesn’t mean they all didn’t make it. No one stopped them mid transit then called the mom, kill her, clean up mess, then drive back to Delmar and stage things. Logic doesn’t add up.

Too many moving parts for that to work cleanly.

redflag though is suzies car being parked oddly.

either means she parked it there in a hurry or someone else put it there not really knowing exactly where it sat in the driveway.

but the broken porch cover makes me agree with they did indeed make it home.

 

[k-mac]

Just wanted to send a "shout out" to the penalty box....get back in the game soon, cherrymeg. Forum is rather quiet without your contribution

I was wondering where she was!!!
that sux

 

[k-mac]

I have read all of your posts and believe you are spot on without exception.
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yes I thought you would likely agree with springfield man 100% mm