Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #9

[asyousay]

Just being honest. If I was only wanting to protect my husband I would not be on this board right now. I would go back to ignoring it like I have for months. This board actually have not been on for years. In all honesty when we aren’t on them we don’t have to deal with this. He is not being looked at by anyone other than a few people on these boards. However, I would love for this to be solved one day, not just for us, but the families as well and spreading falsehoods is not going to do that. All that does is muddy the waters even more.

Everybody wants it solved so that we can agree on. The families do deserve closure but unfortunately the police don’t seem to want this solved now. It must be horrific for the family’s involved that more wasn’t done at the beginning and it’s clearly been bungled by inept police department.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

We can’t see the case file so why should we take your word for it?

The reports that have been out since 1992 claim otherwise. These reporters who also reported on the case don’t have a agenda either.

You are obviously trying to do a good thing by explaining Mike’s side and I understand that but each poster on this forum can make up their own mind who they think is responsible.

You won’t change mine unless I see documentation of what you are claiming as it doesn’t fit in with the facts that are known and are in the public domain.

You don’t have to believe me, but EVERYTHING I have posted it is true.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

Everybody wants it solved so that we can agree on. The families do deserve closure but unfortunately the police don’t seem to want this solved now. It must be horrific for the family’s involved that more wasn’t done at the beginning and it’s clearly been bungled by inept police department.

Inept police, irresponsible media, and many many other factors I’m sure. The Press skewed people’s minds from the start which also did not help the case, but helped them sell a story.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

You don’t have to believe me, but EVERYTHING I have posted it is true.

Like I posted earlier, at this point I don't think Mike had anything to do with the crime. As I said, he would have had to be crazy to have said to the Detective what he said, and been involved in this, if he didn't want to go to prison for the rest of his life. Yea, they may have been upset about the Grave Robber crime, and the people who gave statements, but like you said, if that's the case, why not go after Joe? So with that said, do either of you have any theory or angle on what you think may have happened that night?

 

[irisheyesofblue]

Like I posted earlier, at this point I don't think Mike had anything to do with the crime. As I said, he would have had to be crazy to have said to the Detective what he said, and been involved in this, if he didn't want to go to prison for the rest of his life. Yea, they may have been upset about the Grave Robber crime, and the people who gave statements, but like you said, if that's the case, why not go after Joe? So with that said, do either of you have any theory or angle on what you think may have happened that night?

We don’t think the girls were the target. They were not supposed to be home. Sherrill was a hairdresser and they talk about their life in the shop, small talk and more so with clients she had a while. I’m sure she was a proud mama and boasted about graduation. Would not be unreasonable that people would ask plans and she would say what Suzie would be up to that day. Which also would mean people probably knew she would be alone that night.

Just a theory and we have no names. Mike did work with someone that use to post on here for a while privately (Troogrit) to try and see if he did know something he was not aware of, but it got no where.

 

[asyousay]

We don’t think the girls were the target. They were not supposed to be home. Sherrill was a hairdresser and they talk about their life in the shop, small talk and more so with clients she had a while. I’m sure she was a proud mama and boasted about graduation. Would not be unreasonable that people would ask plans and she would say what Suzie would be up to that day. Which also would mean people probably knew she would be alone that night.

Just a theory and we have no names. Mike did work with someone that use to post on here for a while privately (Troogrit) to try and see if he did know something he was not aware of, but it got no where.

Much more likely that the girls were followed home considering the time of the morning the crime happened , no?

 

[flute4peace]

Yes he was. He was helping at a concert his friend’s band was playing at.

They left before, NOT after. I state this because it is in the file and it is true.

What I have is in the case file. What got them in trouble was Joe bragging about it at a party. That person called it into crime stoppers. AFTER that phone call they brought in Joe. All of this is in the file. I’m

So if they left town before the abduction & not after, how could this alibi be accurate?

I don’t think anyone is disagreeing that they could have left town before the abduction, but they were back in town on the date of, according to the alibis. The question is, did they leave town *again* after?

 

[irisheyesofblue]

Much more likely that the girls were followed home considering the time of the morning the crime happened , no?

I know since I could drive, especially at night I pay close attention to cars behind me. Pretty much every female is well aware if a car is still behind her and will drive past the home and further past to see if still being followed. I find it highly unlikely they would not be aware at that hour.

 

[asyousay]

I know since I could drive, especially at night I pay close attention to cars behind me. Pretty much every female is well aware if a car is still behind her and will drive past the home and further past to see if still being followed. I find it highly unlikely they would not be aware at that hour.

But Sherill was home alone from about 8pm that night and yet the girls didn’t reach home until 3am (ish) so for me it doesn’t add up that Sherill was the intended victim. The timeline would suggestion that it was about the girls as it went down after they got home.

There is absolutely no sign of any kind of rape or attack in Sherills room so why would a sexual preditor attack Sherill when the two women got home? It doesn’t add up IMO

 

[irisheyesofblue]

So if they left town before the abduction & not after, how could this alibi be accurate?

I don’t think anyone is disagreeing that they could have left town before the abduction, but they were back in town on the date of, according to the alibis. The question is, did they leave town *again* after?

I don’t get what you mean. He left, but returned only a couple weeks later. This alibi is what he was doing that night.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

But Sherill was home alone from about 8pm that night and yet the girls didn’t reach home until 3am (ish) so for me it doesn’t add up that Sherill was the intended victim. The timeline would suggestion that it was about the girls as it went down after they got home.

There is absolutely no sign of any kind of rape or attack in Sherills room so why would a sexual preditor attack Sherill when the two women got home? It doesn’t add up IMO

I just don’t see two young girls not being aware they are being followed.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

Michelle, I respect your answers. But statements aren't verified truth. Cops just write down what witnesses say and then the investigators compile it and find the truth later, usually not in "case files."

Joe's alibi is unclear. That much is true. The cops say after that dated document that he was in town when this happened. I am wondering if he came back without Mike's knowledge.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

So if they left town before the abduction & not after, how could this alibi be accurate?

I don’t think anyone is disagreeing that they could have left town before the abduction, but they were back in town on the date of, according to the alibis. The question is, did they leave town *again* after?

Mike did not leave until a few months after they stopped questioning him and he went alone. Joe never came back.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

Mike did not leave until a few months after they stopped questioning him and he went alone. Joe never came back.

Surely he made some friends in Springfield of his own. Where did he work? What did he do when Mike was with AH?

 

[asyousay]

I just don’t see two young girls not being aware they are being followed.

They had had a long old day and was tired and wanted to get home. It wouldn’t be surprising If they had a few drinks as well so who’s to say if they was as aware as they would of been normally.

They had time to take off make up , undress and get into bed and they also had a yappy Yorkie terrier.

So for Sherill to be the victim we have a dumb arse who sat around in the house for hours on end, didn’t rape Sherill or hurt her from what we know of the house. I guess he just say around twiddling his thumbs f waiting on nobody to come home and when somebody did he suddenly turned into a master criminal who managed to kidnapped and subdued 3 women and get away without being caught.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

Michelle, I respect your answers. But statements aren't verified truth. Cops just write down what witnesses say and then the investigators compile it and find the truth later, usually not in "case files."

Joe's alibi is unclear. That much is true. The cops say after that dated document that he was in town when this happened. I am wondering if he came back without Mike's knowledge.

That would of been hard considering the only people he knew were Mike and his friends and no one saw him. We asked many and not one saw him since he went to Chicago. We asked a lot of questions before we got the case file because Mike did not know, but could not imagine him coming back because he had no one there that anyone knew of other than them.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

Why did the cops not outright say if Joe passed the poly or not? They immediately let us know of Mike and Dusty's, why didn't they just say Joe's too? Separate times with separate cops they blow it off and say "no comment."

That is freakin' weird to say about a suspect! Come on!

We know he was a snitch in the Maple Park case...so was it because he was a CI or other reasons?

 

[irisheyesofblue]

Surely he made some friends in Springfield of his own. Where did he work? What did he do when Mike was with AH?

I will ask Mike.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

Why did the cops not outright say if Joe passed the poly or not? They immediately let us know of Mike and Dusty's, why didn't they just say Joe's too? Separate times with separate cops they blow it off and say "no comment."

That is freakin' weird to say about a suspect! Come on!

We know he was a snitch in the Maple Park case...so was it because he was a CI or other reasons?

His results are in the case file and he did pass.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

They had had a long old day and was tired and wanted to get home. It wouldn’t be surprising If they had a few drinks as well so who’s to say if they was as aware as they would of been normally.

They had time to take off make up , undress and get into bed and they also had a yappy Yorkie terrier.

So for Sherill to be the victim we have a dumb arse who sat around in the house for hours on end, didn’t rape Sherill or hurt her from what we know of the house. I guess he just say around twiddling his thumbs f waiting on nobody to come home and when somebody did he suddenly turned into a master criminal who managed to kidnapped and subdued 3 women and get away without being caught.

The person could of gotten there later. Many scenarios with that situation are possible. Not saying the girls weren’t the target. Just never has made sense to me.