Mistakes made that led to Casey being aquitted...

[jkly]

Yes, I agree but often times the jury pool is limited and those in the jury pool are limited. Not being judgemental but realistic. Many people can't hold on to all the minutiae thrown at them during a day much less weeks.

Also, people in the jury can be easily influenced by, what someone is wearing, how they act at the prosecution or defense table, how they wear their hair or make up etc.
There are so many factors.

Why not a "Watson"? A dispassionate computer that takes in all the evidence w/ knowledge of all rules etc. I honestly think I'd rather have that than a jury of my peers.



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Me too.

 

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Cheney Mason and Dorothy Simms did the job they were supposed to do.

Baez tried to tamper with witnesses, produce false documents (that would make it appear that Suburban Drive was searched back in August) and a strong case can be made that he subporned perjury from Cindy Anthony during the trial.

He also had a bar complaint filed against him after Dominic Casey told Judge Strickland that Baez had directed him to search the area Caylee was later found and told him that if he found Caylee, he was to walk away and call Baez prior to calling Law Enforcement.

Dominic Casey is a nut, but he's been consistent with this. He was also caught on camera searching Suburban near where Caylee was found in November 2008.

IIRC, the Defense played the video of DC searching Suburban dr while J Hoover video tapped it. They didn't play the part when they were searching the abandoned house.

DC said he was on the phone with the Psychic while he was slashing at black garbage bags.

The Defense was trying to prove that Caylee's remains were not there in November and also to bring in that her remains and the area was tampered with and Caylee moved prior to her being discovered that way they could claim that the evidence found at the site was questionable.

 

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BBM


But, the jury had other options. They could've gone with manslaughter, only the top charge was Murder 1 - and there were options there too, the jury could've given her LWOP... Regardless, the jury shouldn't have been "hung up on the death penalty", this was not the penalty phase. They shouldn't have even been considering punishment during the guilt/innocence phase... I swear, sometimes I think some believe that death was the only option this jury had... (not directed at you mickey)

All jmo.

Agreed.
The Jury had other options other than Murder 1.

 

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I think Kronk was flat out looking for Caylee. It made sense that FCA would dump her that close....she even said as much in her jail tapes "she's close." He was doing work others hadn't done.

He may have been looking for Caylee, but he was not alone in that. And even here on WS we took the "she's close" along with her cell phone pings and LE interviews with friends etc..to sleuth out the area.
Remember the Psychic that came to Orlando and was doing a "Blind Drive" around the city?
She drove by the site where the remains were found and said "they felt something" and went out with her cadaver dog who should interest in the area but couldn't get farther in because of the water, she also said they didn't have permission from the owner to be on the property.

The video she made was posted but I can no longer find it.

 

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Everyone that did anything that aided in discovering the truth got crapped all over by the defense.

Baez even tried to go after the Equusearch volunteers. I remember Tim Miller fighting him in court because Baez wanted a list of everyone who was involved in canvassing the area.

The police were on their hands and knees for hours attempting to retrieve each and every one of Caylee's little scattered bones and the defense portrayed them as not working hard enough and victimizing their lazy, dumb client to distract from the fact that she was a pathetic excuse for a mother.

It took them so long to find Caylee because Casey obstructed their investigation and lied and lied and lied. I still don't see how the jury could have not taken that into consideration.

I'm also sick of hearing that the State didn't prove their case when the reason why is glaring anyone who takes a close look at the circumstances in the face.

How is it the State's fault that Caylee was skeletonized by the time they found her? Because they couldn't see into Casey's pea brain and read her mind to know where she dumped her child's remains?

What the Defense and the A's did to Tim Miller was cruel.
Thank goodness Tim had Mark Nejame to represent him and go up against Baez.

 

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Why should they? Even according to the defense, he had nothing to do with Caylee's death and if he "found Caylee's body in the woods and took it home with him", Casey still could have been the one who put it there.

IIRC, they did nothing to tie George to him and claim the two of them were somehow in cahoots. It was just another distraction and a pretty absurd side note that the defense did nothing to prove.

I agree.

 

[Razz]

What the Defense and the A's did to Tim Miller was cruel.
Thank goodness Tim had Mark Nejame to represent him and go up against Baez.

Mark Nejame did not do well for himself when he was representing the Anthony's. He should have known better.

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[heidisams]

In some defense of the jury......I can
unfortunately see where the evidence presented would boggle people's minds. Because I understand it, it was easy to grasp and I have to admit Ashton did a good job of explaining and answering questions, but if this isn't your thing, they may have heard yakity yak yak.



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BBM

That doesn't make it ok... The reason why a jury is made up of 12 people is because it requires a collective understanding of the evidence... The group is made up of different life experiences, education levels, careers, sex, age, etc, for that very reason... we all have different strengths and skills...

All jmo.

 

[krkrjx]

I think some disinterested, self-centered people were allowed on the jury even over objections and attempts to strike by the state. The trial was long and at times a circus sideshow because the judge did not run a tight ship.

That is my opinion only.

 

[JerseyGal]

If Judge Stan Strickland had kept the trial, there is no doubt in my mind that he would have insured a conviction.
I'll never forget his 'The truth and Ms Anthony are strangers' statement, so true!
Perry was dreadful in my opinion, lax to the extreme - and allowing Baez to babble all that nonsense in his opening statement,
what kind of idiocy is that?
JMO there were hundreds of problems with that trial - one of them being the defendant facing the jury (never saw that before!), again Perry's fault. Add to that the defendant being allowed to give silent testimony all throughout trial, shaking her head and frowning, etc.
And as soon as the jury was absent, she was flirting and joking, not to forget giving the camera the finger.
I don't believe Strickland would have allowed ANY of that.
Also, Perry threatened to have prospective jurors brought in from the local shelters if a jury wasn't selected within one week.
I could go on and on
JMO her absolute Guilt was obvious from Day One.

 

[JerseyGal]

I do think that the prosecution should have made it MANDATORY to physically see and smell her car trunk, no matter how difficult and time-consuming it might have been. The stench was necessary for those jurors to acknowledge, because they apparently had trouble believing ANY of the facts.
The 'friends' should have been grilled on the details much more than they were, JMO there was much more going on there.
(Just wondering, was there any more info on that $15,000 that TL said was 'missing' from his 'dealer', and that CA suddenly told TL that she had just that exact amount in the bank?)

 

[TeaTime]

She was acquitted because her attorney planted a huge case of reasonable doubt into the jurors' minds during closing argument. After his closing they could not be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that the child didn't accidentally drown and things just spiraled into insanity from there. It is a much better thought than a mother drug her child with chloroform and left her to bake to death in the car trunk so she could have sex with her boyfriend without interference.

You may not like him, but I knew he won the case when I heard his closing. I knew she would be acquitted.

 

[JerseyGal]

I don't agree that Baez came up with any doubt whatsoever,
he failed to act professionally at trial and threw all kinds of nonsense out there,
very chaotic and not making any sense.
Any mother who drives around with a dead body in her trunk for a week is Guilty,
and if I were a juror at that trial there would be no doubt in my mind.
There was a case of another mother who did the same thing, murdered her baby
and stuffed the body in her trunk. Yes she was found Guilty and is serving many
years in prison - another state, not Florida.

 

[heidisams]

She was acquitted because her attorney planted a huge case of reasonable doubt into the jurors' minds during closing argument. After his closing they could not be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that the child didn't accidentally drown and things just spiraled into insanity from there. It is a much better thought than a mother drug her child with chloroform and left her to bake to death in the car trunk so she could have sex with her boyfriend without interference.

You may not like him, but I knew he won the case when I heard his closing. I knew she would be acquitted.

Nope..... I disagree with you TeaTime. I disagree with any statement that describes this verdict as reasonable... IMO, the story told by the defense at trial was not evidence, and that's all the jury listened to. They told a story, that's it . A story that falls flat when it's weighed against the evidence. This jury couldn't even be bothered with taking any time to go over the evidence to see if it fit the facts... They used the excuse of no cause of death to get out of making sense of the garbage they had been fed by the defense. They just wiped their hands of it all and high tailed it back to Pinellas County... There's nothing reasonable about letting the murderer of a 2 yr old girl go free because her remains were in the woods too long and all that was left were her tiny bones, therefore no definitive cod...... No cause of death is why they said they HAD to acquit (wrong, cod not needed)... They said without cod they didn't know if it was a crime... They couldn't look at the evidence to see that it was a crime? That was their job... I'm not going to go over all the evidence (like the stinky car and being thrown in a swamp and duct tape over nose & mouth and mom having a blast for 31 days, etc), but they seriously couldn't look at the evidence and tell this was a crime? Hogwash...There's nothing reasonable about it...about any of it... IMO.

All jmo.

 

[JerseyGal]

heidisams - I agree totally.
I really resent the fact that those jurors failed to listen to Dr G's testimony -
she was very clear that Caylee's jaw was held in place only because Duct Tape
had been placed on her nose and mouth and stuck into Caylee's hair,
thereby keeping the jaw with the skull.
To ignore that piece of evidence is nothing short of ridiculous.

 

[jkly]

Interview with FBI Agent Nick Savage about the Caylee Anthony case.

http://wondery.com/wondery/shows/bestcaseworstcase/

 

[heidisams]

Just saw on CNN, Cheney Mason is now saying fca "blacked out" and just doesn't remember what happened...He said it is similar to a black out from alcohol, but, that she was able to carry on in all other matters of her life. Joey Jackson responds by saying "I think that's the most outrageous thing I've ever heard," and he and another legal correspondent point out that Cheney is speaking as a psychologist and that the "condition" he's describing fca as having doesn't exist, meaning not anything mental health providers even recognize....

Every single time fca or her legal team open their mouths the bigger the insult, and the injustice for this baby....

All jmo.

 

[MsJosie]

Just saw on CNN, Cheney Mason is now saying fca "blacked out" and just doesn't remember what happened...He said it is similar to a black out from alcohol, but, that she was able to carry on in all other matters of her life. Joey Jackson responds by saying "I think that's the most outrageous thing I've ever heard," and he and another legal correspondent point out that Cheney is speaking as a psychologist and that the "condition" he's describing fca as having doesn't exist, meaning not anything mental health providers even recognize....

Every single time fca or her legal team open their mouths the bigger the insult, and the injustice for this baby....

All jmo.

That team throws things out there to see how the public reacts to the felon...hoping we will 'forgive her' and let her be a real member of the public.

 

[Gnatcatcher]

After all these years, it's just a blackout. Oh Okay, Chaney. We gotcha. All is forgiven. Carry on, then.

 

[heidisams]

After all these years, it's just a blackout. Oh Okay, Chaney. We gotcha. All is forgiven. Carry on, then.View attachment 119815

Lol...

Fca's been selling stupid her entire life and getting away with it (in her mind). Unfortunately, her greatest sell was to the P12, and I think it really, really p'ses her off that the rest of us don't just fall in line with the jury... She's very indignant and appalled that she can't convince the rest of the world.... I have no doubt that she will keep coming at us with these ridiculous defenses for herself because I think she really believes she will finally get us to see it how she wants... The thing about fca, is she can't stand it when someone confronts her or doesn't believe her. She hates it... She hates when anyone takes her to task, or thinks negatively of her... She doesn't care one bit that Caylee is dead, but, she cares that we think she doesn't care, iykwim? It's always about fca, that's what she loses sleep over...
And I'm just sick of hearing from her, she needs to go sell stupid somewhere else...

All jmo.