"Mistatements" and/or Lies by Cindy & George

[countzero]

BBM-CA knows this. In the Morgan & Morgan depo, she cannot seem to remember some of her previous statements (JM catches her fibbing), and he has to replay them for her on his handy TV.
But when he asks her about the 911 call, she tells him she does not need him to play it for her, that she remembers it precisely. She knows what she did when she made those calls-What she doesn't seem to understand is that the content of those calls were the last greatest thing she did for her grand daughter.
Once JM asked her about the call, she knew it was going to be an issue....thus began her formulation of the stupidest lie in this case on her part....that she made up the call to get police at her house. She will have a mistated answer for everything come trial time, taking episodes where she was on the defense and spinning them to give her an offensive route.

CA not only told Morgan that 911 call was a lie, she told YM the same story in her interview with LE. More backpeddling from her.

Look friends, I am not attempting to change anyone's opinion on the Anthony's virtues or love for Caylee. What I see about them is a continued storyline of lies from each of them. This is narcissism at its finest. They have been lying for years. We just have only been exposed to the past 2.5 years. Their silence is in self preservation mode now until the trial get closer, then they will spring back into their normal mode of lying. The further the SAO pushes them to the truth, the more the lies will be coming. The Anthony's can't and won't help themselves from doing it.

And we here at WS will have a high thread count on this topic.

 

[Gma Kat]

:dance:Only six more status hearings until trial.

Hasn't everything CA has said after the 911 calls been a lie?
'It's not against the law to lie' I recall her saying with a deadpan face to whatever media outlet would listen.
Besides the fact it is against the law to lie to the law or in a court of law, it goes against the laws of nature to lie to those trying to find your beloved missing toddler grandchild.

The fact CA chose sides and decided to actively lie on behalf of her chosen side tells me she didn't really love Caylee in a way you or I understand love. Sp was quite profound in her statement about ICA hating CA more than she loved Caylee. I wouldn't doubt CA is a little torn in her feelings toward Caylee as well. If only she was never born, none of this would be happening.

Regarding the A's staying out of the media spotlight. If I truly believed my daughter was innocent and that my grandaughter was alive somewhere while my daughter faced trial in a few short months and the DP at the end of that, no amount of lawyers could stop me from shooting off my mouth every opportunity I got.
The slience is quite deafening isn't it. It speaks volumes.

I couldn't have said it better kaRN. I think it would be easier to list what the A's have said that can be confirmed or proven.......I went through the transcripts of this case earlier in the year, hi-liting lies, mis-truths, etc., and probably 70-80% of the transcripts were hi-lited. Now this was based on what I knew to be the truth and what the A's were still trying to state as truth. If I were to go back again now and do the same thing, with even more info today than I had then......why bother????? Probably just the spelling of their names and the date of the deposition/interview would be the truth......oh this makes me so angry! I need to avoid this thread!:furious:

 

[logicalgirl]

I hear ya logicalgirl and would agree, given the magnitude of this tragedy, that Cindy initially would fight off the idea her Caylee could be dead and that her daughter could be responsible. The mind employs many self defense mechanisms when traumatic events occur, denial being just one of them. But, I don't see this denial lasting very long with Cindy, certainly not past the time Casey was free on bond.

That's because, I see a marked change in Cindy's priorities as early as July 30th. That FBI session was a huge eye opener for me. I didnt see a grandmother desperate to find her grandchild. Should be remembered Cindy set this session up. She inititated this meeting. And from what I saw she wasn't there to talk about her or LE's efforts to find Caylee. On one hand she claims she isnt bothered about where Casey's at, she's safe, yet the majority of that long session is about Cindy trying to deflect suspicion away from Casey and paint her in a totally false light.

If I believed Casey was safe and Caylee was my focus, I would have been asking these seasoned people finders what can I do to help find my grandchild, how can I get my daughter to cooperate with authorities. And I would NOT have waited till well into the interview to share the JBP story. My (with hindsight) take on that interveiw was a woman going into coverup mode, a woman who chose her words carefully....not a woman who was putting her grandchild first. There was a clear shift here from the genuinely distraught Cindy on the 911 calls who had no problem turning her daughter in for grand theft and stealing a car.

5 days earlier during a jail visitation, Casey throws her parents a bone. She tells them she would be happy to talk to Appie Wells or anyone they want to bring in. I have no doubt Cindy tried to make it happen. It didnt and Cindy never presses the subject in the subsequent jail visits. During the pm visit, of July 30th, Cindy is very much pushing the protecting the family bull*****.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE7atm6QqoU&feature=BF&list=QL&index=5

Protecting Caylee and the family was in no way condusive to Cindy's numerous tv appearances and press interviews. Neither was Casey creating a myspace page, sporting a missing Caylee t shirt and complaining that the cops wouldn't put out an amber alert.

I dont buy for a second that Cindy didn't grill Casey when she was out on bond for 50 days. Ofcourse I have no way of knowing what further bull*****/new lies, Casey spewed out, but by that point, the Anthonys surely could not ignore that nothing Casey was saying or doing made sense. She was giving them absolutely no help in finding her missing daughter. Not only had she lied to LE, she had lied to Lee. I could make a list of her lies to Lee from the jailhouse, but you get the picture.

Finding Caylee was relegated to meet and greets, fliers, donation jars and futile tv appearances, where Cindy defends her daughter unequivocally but never makes a plea to Caylee's abductor. By the time Casey got out of jail, dialog between the Anthonys and LE had completely broken down. Cindy is well aware at this point about cadaver dog hits on the car and the results of the air sample tests. And I defy anyone to tell me they were looking for Caylee at kidfinder fundraisers or River's gated community. :no:

Huston we have a problem.

Oh I hear you and agree with everything you've said - that's my point exactly! I am not trying to bring any kind of innocence to Cindy's actions at all, but making an effort to dissect her many actions with "why", and running layers of the massive negativity by the public and media in the background of her actions.

No one will ever convince me that when you see Cindy you see ICA - while Cindy is not someone who could be put on a pedestal as "person to emulate" I don't believe she is truly evil like ICA is.

And it is one thing to "know" a fact, and sometimes a huge leap to bring "accept" in line with it. Yes, I believe she "knew" Caylee was dead from early days, but accept? Clearly not.

Hindsight can be valuable if we are looking at our lives to reassess for change. Unfortunately, hindsight isn't available to us when we are in the middle of a life crisis. My point is that our dissection in the crime has primarily focused on Cindy and blame, and we are guessing at the reasons behind her actions. It hasn't been on ICA, for whom we have a truckload of evidence as to her actions. And I agree, because of Cindy's actions, she's an easy target.

What makes me uncomfortable is we aren't at the end of the story yet, so it often feels to me to be the worst kind of bullying. I don't admire anything about her behavior, but at this point in time, I need more information, not more dishing of probable assessments.

Okay, stepping away from the keyboard! :truce:

 

[ZsaZsa]

The only reason I can think of for the unusual silence of GA/CA is that they have been told by their lawyers that they are the subject of an investigation which will likely result in charges being brought against them.
Self-preservation has overcome their constant need to speak.

 

[chefmom]

I couldn't have said it better kaRN. I think it would be easier to list what the A's have said that can be confirmed or proven.......I went through the transcripts of this case earlier in the year, hi-liting lies, mis-truths, etc., and probably 70-80% of the transcripts were hi-lited. Now this was based on what I knew to be the truth and what the A's were still trying to state as truth. If I were to go back again now and do the same thing, with even more info today than I had then......why bother????? Probably just the spelling of their names and the date of the deposition/interview would be the truth......oh this makes me so angry! I need to avoid this thread!:furious:

BBM

Lol! ITA! Every time I see this thread I think that! We don't have to try very hard to find the lies that have come from the A camp. Pretty much everything they have said from day 32 has been a lie. JMO.

 

[chefmom]

The only reason I can think of for the unusual silence of GA/CA is that they have been told by their lawyers that they are the subject of an investigation which will likely result in charges being brought against them.
Self-preservation has overcome their constant need to speak.

Oh, gosh, ZsaZsa, I soooooo hope so! If they aren't charged with something I am going to be disappointed. They have crossed the line from supporting an accused love one to perjury and obstruction. The DC video says so much to me about the lengths that this group was willing to go to to set ICA free. It makes me physically ill to think about what might have happened if DC had found Caylee's remains that day.

 

[zoey]

Zoey, was that "Life with Murder"?

I too watched it. Seems the parents wanted answers as to WHY he killed his sister...IMO, Greed was his reasons. He knew his parents didn't have a will but wanted to put one together. He did this for them, had it laid out on the table, he was the sole benefactor, never mentioning his sister in this will. He had no reason other than wanting the estate all to himself. His mother calls him out on many inconsistent statements, I think this is a great eyeopener when one family member kills another, how do you forgive??? This family has started their forgiveness...JMHO





When their son is accused of murdering his sister, a mother and father face perhaps the most awful decision any parent could have to make: whether to break with their son or accept him back into the family. With astonishing footage shot over a ten-year period, from minutes after the crime was committed to the present, the film follows the family’s evolving relationships.

Director's statement
"Life With Murder is one of several documentaries I have made over the past 25 years exploring criminals’ relationships to their loved ones. I have focused on this subject perhaps more than any other filmmaker. Long ago I noticed that while the families of victims of crime get much media attention the families of criminals are largely a neglected issue -- yet a hugely important one. There are over 7,000,000 people in the criminal justice system in North America alone. That’s a lot of families…and a lot of neglect. Yet personal relationships often play an important role in why a person commits a crime; and their crime also plays an important role in their personal relationships. Works of fiction from The Godfather to Crime and Punishment have dealt with this subject for many years. So do I but my stories are real." - John Kastner.

http://films.nfb.ca/lifewithmurder/

Yes...I thought it was fascinating! I can understand the forgivness in order to move on---but still can't figure out why they remain intact as a "family"---I truly don't think I could....I just couldn't get over the love and affection they shared for their son, after all they knew....the visitation, the hugs the kisses and concern for his well being....Just couldn't do it...:snooty:

 

[kaRN]

I couldn't have said it better kaRN. I think it would be easier to list what the A's have said that can be confirmed or proven.......I went through the transcripts of this case earlier in the year, hi-liting lies, mis-truths, etc., and probably 70-80% of the transcripts were hi-lited. Now this was based on what I knew to be the truth and what the A's were still trying to state as truth. If I were to go back again now and do the same thing, with even more info today than I had then......why bother????? Probably just the spelling of their names and the date of the deposition/interview would be the truth......oh this makes me so angry! I need to avoid this thread!:furious:

Me too GMA Kat. I feel like a fly by troll sometimes depositing my angst on some thread and then retreating to cool off. Remember though we're just maggots per CA. Kudos to we maggots I say. The maggots that were in the trunk until CA cleaned them away are the baby flies that will convict her daughter so :woohoo:. Proud maggot lover here.
Actions speak louder than words and to date I haven't seen any action backing up the verbal claims from these folks. Would the sunshine laws or an idiot defense lawyer prevent you from visiting your innocent daughter or brining her fresh clothes? There isn't a chance in h*ll. Love would direct me to that courthouse every month like clockwork. It's not like the A's have jobs that conflict.
This could very well be ICA's last Thanksgiving, Christmas, birthday etc in Orlando, forever. The A's can't find their way to the local jail now, good luck they'll visit hours away later after the MOTY is imprisoned until she's dead.
(Didn't mention Mothers Day 'cause ICA isn't one and by beautiful coincidence her trial encompasses that holiday)

 

[Just Jayla]

CA not only told Morgan that 911 call was a lie, she told YM the same story in her interview with LE. More backpeddling from her.

Look friends, I am not attempting to change anyone's opinion on the Anthony's virtues or love for Caylee. What I see about them is a continued storyline of lies from each of them. This is narcissism at its finest. They have been lying for years. We just have only been exposed to the past 2.5 years. Their silence is in self preservation mode now until the trial get closer, then they will spring back into their normal mode of lying. The further the SAO pushes them to the truth, the more the lies will be coming. The Anthony's can't and won't help themselves from doing it.

And we here at WS will have a high thread count on this topic.

Like Oprah's bed linens, we are.

Great point, this behavior is not something developed post-murder, this is the Anthony family of 4937 Hopespring Drive.

 

[LolaMoon08]

Oh I hear you and agree with everything you've said - that's my point exactly! I am not trying to bring any kind of innocence to Cindy's actions at all, but making an effort to dissect her many actions with "why", and running layers of the massive negativity by the public and media in the background of her actions.

No one will ever convince me that when you see Cindy you see ICA - while Cindy is not someone who could be put on a pedestal as "person to emulate" I don't believe she is truly evil like ICA is.

And it is one thing to "know" a fact, and sometimes a huge leap to bring "accept" in line with it. Yes, I believe she "knew" Caylee was dead from early days, but accept? Clearly not.

Hindsight can be valuable if we are looking at our lives to reassess for change. Unfortunately, hindsight isn't available to us when we are in the middle of a life crisis. My point is that our dissection in the crime has primarily focused on Cindy and blame, and we are guessing at the reasons behind her actions. It hasn't been on ICA, for whom we have a truckload of evidence as to her actions. And I agree, because of Cindy's actions, she's an easy target.

What makes me uncomfortable is we aren't at the end of the story yet, so it often feels to me to be the worst kind of bullying. I don't admire anything about her behavior, but at this point in time, I need more information, not more dishing of probable assessments.

Okay, stepping away from the keyboard! :truce:

I respect your opinion on Cindy... no need to call for a truce. There is nothing wrong with the way you feel. I just don't see Cindy the way you do. I wish I could.

There are a lot of things that I can not get past. Cindy may not be an out-right evil person, but she has shown to have evil intentions on many occassions. She has no problem harming innocent people. Just because she has not physically harmed anyone doesn't make her actions any less destructive to these peoples lives.

I don't think what we write here on this forum is "bullying." I think it gives us all an outlet to try and understand how this family works. Why they do the things they do. We all want answers, and I don't know that we will ever have all the answers we want, but I am glad that I have this forum to come to and talk it out.

 

[logicalgirl]

I respect your opinion on Cindy... no need to call for a truce. There is nothing wrong with the way you feel. I just don't see Cindy the way you do. I wish I could.

There are a lot of things that I can not get past. Cindy may not be an out-right evil person, but she has shown to have evil intentions on many occassions. She has no problem harming innocent people. Just because she has not physically harmed anyone doesn't make her actions any less destructive to these peoples lives.

I don't think what we write here on this forum is "bullying." I think it gives us all an outlet to try and understand how this family works. Why they do the things they do. We all want answers, and I don't know that we will ever have all the answers we want, but I am glad that I have this forum to come to and talk it out.

Thank you for your respectful comments LolaMoon08 - I appreciate them.
I don't like her behavior either, and much of it in the end may be inexcusable. If as many of you have projected, CA does indeed post trial write that book and it is full of complete rubbish, I promise I will be at the front line of assault.

Maybe it's my Canadian Kumbaya status that insists I express a little decorum in the discussions. Ever hear that South Park song "Blame Canada!" LOL.

 

[chefmom]

Thank you for your respectful comments LolaMoon08 - I appreciate them.
I don't like her behavior either, and much of it in the end may be inexcusable. If as many of you have projected, CA does indeed post trial write that book and it is full of complete rubbish, I promise I will be at the front line of assault.

Maybe it's my Canadian Kumbaya status that insists I express a little decorum in the discussions. Ever hear that South Park song "Blame Canada!" LOL.

LOL! Yes, I have! Too funny! I do believe that CA is going to be KC's Canada, too. AF is going to do whatever she has to at mitigation to spare KC's life, and I do believe she will go after CA with both barrells. MOO, but I think she will place emphasis on GA's statement about how CA held the baby before KC, and how there was always jealousy between the two. She will have AD talk about the birthday party where KC said she was Caylee's mother, and on and on and on until she has painted CA as a controlling, jealous, over-bearing mother who drove KC to do what she did. She will gloss over all of the theft from CA's bank account, and all of the lies, and focus on the bad points of everyone else in the family. Sad but true. The entire A clan will be thrown under the bus before all is said and done.

 

[MissJames]

LOL! Yes, I have! Too funny! I do believe that CA is going to be KC's Canada, too. AF is going to do whatever she has to at mitigation to spare KC's life, and I do believe she will go after CA with both barrells. MOO, but I think she will place emphasis on GA's statement about how CA held the baby before KC, and how there was always jealousy between the two. She will have AD talk about the birthday party where KC said she was Caylee's mother, and on and on and on until she has painted CA as a controlling, jealous, over-bearing mother who drove KC to do what she did. She will gloss over all of the theft from CA's bank account, and all of the lies, and focus on the bad points of everyone else in the family. Sad but true. The entire A clan will be thrown under the bus before all is said and done.

I think the penalty phase investigation into ICA's childhood,including time in Ohio,is one of the reasons CA is staying quiet right now. KC already drove the front wheels of the bus over George and Lee . Cindy may see the back wheels coming for her.Hopefully she will reconsider her position defending ICA.

 

[chefmom]

I think the penalty phase investigation into ICA's childhood,including time in Ohio,is one of the reasons CA is staying quiet right now. KC already drove the front wheels of the bus over George and Lee . Cindy may see the back wheels coming for her.Hopefully she will reconsider her position defending ICA.

ITA. CA has to be concerned about all of the family squabbles and incidents that are going to be put out there for public consumption. I do not think she is happy about it at all. She doesn't mind telling lies to free KC, but apparently the truth is giving her cause for concern.

 

[logicalgirl]

LOL! Yes, I have! Too funny! I do believe that CA is going to be KC's Canada, too. AF is going to do whatever she has to at mitigation to spare KC's life, and I do believe she will go after CA with both barrells. MOO, but I think she will place emphasis on GA's statement about how CA held the baby before KC, and how there was always jealousy between the two. She will have AD talk about the birthday party where KC said she was Caylee's mother, and on and on and on until she has painted CA as a controlling, jealous, over-bearing mother who drove KC to do what she did. She will gloss over all of the theft from CA's bank account, and all of the lies, and focus on the bad points of everyone else in the family. Sad but true. The entire A clan will be thrown under the bus before all is said and done.

Too True - LOL - Finnell will probably do whatever she suspects may work - but bus or no, talk is cheap, and ICA is going down. Finnell can finaggle all she wants, but I hoping for LWOP or the DP. What's a revving bus engine or two!

 

[redkatrampant]

This HAS to be another one.
Orlandon sentinel story about the Emails between Baez and Ashton.
It contained this snippet
Meanwhile, Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, issued a statement Thursday in answer to rumors that the couple were experiencing marital problems.

"Without detracting from the case involving their daughter please be advised that they are not having any type of marital issues," the couple said through their attorney. "Any rumors or speculation about a separation or divorce are exactly that, just rumors or speculation."
LMAO at the comment by marshmallow.


BTW has anyone heard these new rumors. I have been shamefully involved in work.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

Good Grief! Over the years, I have read many postings on many message boards about this possibility, based on various pieces of information that have come out during the case. So why NOW, of all times do they make this announcement?

There's been little said about it lately, and it certainly hasn't been mentioned in MSM. VERY FISHY!

:fish::fish::fish::fish::fish::fish:

 

[logicalgirl]

Good Grief! Over the years, I have read many postings on many message boards about this possibility, based on various pieces of information that have come out during the case. So why NOW, of all times do they make this announcement?

There's been little said about it lately, and it certainly hasn't been mentioned in MSM. VERY FISHY!

:fish::fish::fish::fish::fish::fish:

Haha - I read the posting with "this announcement" and thought two things - WTH??? :waitasec: and second - now this definitely needs to go into the "Mistatements or lies by Cindy and George" thread. And Third - who said what and how is it we have missed it????

 

[logicalgirl]

I'm wondering if some reporter was looking for a story and asked Cindy if she and George are separated because she keeps showing up at the hearings alone?

 

[RR0004]

I'm wondering if some reporter was looking for a story and asked Cindy if she and George are separated because she keeps showing up at the hearings alone?

...and I'm sure she reads all of the speculation on the boards. I don't really think people care all that much.