"Mistatements" and/or Lies by Cindy & George

[seeing_eye]

Wouldn't you agree though that to 'HIDE' the car in the garage is admission that you knew something was very wrong?

Of course she knew something was very wrong. But she did not want "outsiders" involved until she had a scapegoat to blame it on. Thus she didn't tell LE about it until she learned that Caylee had been kidnapped by a nanny. When she had someone else to blame instead of Casey, she had no qualms about reporting it to "outsiders" (outside the family, that is). JMO

 

[countzero]

Wouldn't you agree though that to 'HIDE' the car in the garage is admission that you knew something was very wrong?

Not only an admission of something very wrong, but CA also knew who and what it meant concerning Caylee. CA started her storyboard long before the vehicle was towed, she just needed to put her carp into action WHEN the vehicle was found and towed.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I find myself putting a lot of emphasis on Cindy's statements and actions... and not so much on George. I feel bad for leaving George out... so this posts for you George! Enjoy!

George has always put too much emphasis on June 16th, 2008 being just a “normal” day in the Anthony home. I don’t believe this for one moment. If it were a normal day… why would George pay such close attention to the clothes Casey and Caylee had on that day? If it were a normal day… what happened that day would have been repetitive… something that happened everyday… so why did it change so much?

First we have George innocently sitting on his couch the afternoon of June 16th, 2008. He was watching one of his favorite shows on television (which we all know was not airing at the time) when Casey and Caylee came out of her room and Casey said she was off to work. George made no mention of leaving the couch until…

George says that he got up and walked Casey and Caylee out to the car. Putting Caylee in her carseat… then SUDDENLY… OUT OF NO WHERE…

George made breakfast for Caylee that morning. Just like he always did… I remember watching him on the television (some interview they did) making this statement and how utterly SHOCKED I was that this came out of his mouth? “Huh? Where did THAT come from? Since WHEN did you make breakfast for Caylee that morning?”

It’s almost like he watched an old episode of “Leave it to Beaver” and tried to pass it off as “normal” Anthony behavior. Badly!

I do think that George seen Casey and Caylee leave that day… but I don’t think it was “Alright dad, I‘m off to work. I‘ll see you later“… something more like “You’ll never see Caylee again” as she dragged a crying Caylee out of the Anthony home. Followed by a fight the night before and watching Caylee being taken out of that house with an angry Casey would most definitely be a memorable moment for George… a moment where I would believe he would remember exactly what they had wore that day. It had to have played over and over in his head as day by day went by without seeing or hearing from Caylee. I think the clothes Caylee was wearing when she was taken out of that house are the clothes that they “haven’t even found yet.” I believe Casey put Caylee in that “Big Trouble Comes in Small Packages” shirt after death. I also think that Caylee was killed in the Anthony home after George left for work that day.

I remember when I thought George was being so honest and forthcoming with LE when he told them about the gas can incident? The more and more I think about it… George didn’t WANT to tell LE about the gas can incident… he HAD to.

I think George was petrified that the gas cans, that he had reported stolen, were back in his home. I think that it crossed George’s mind (as it did mine) that Casey had used her own fathers gas cans to destroy evidence… possibly even his own granddaughters body. It was an “Oh crap” moment for George. He may be willing to sell his soul to the devil (his words) for his daughter, but he sure wasn’t going to implicate himself in the actual murder.

So, I was doing a little digging just now because I had a point I wanted to make about why George simply didn't just get rid of the gas cans and I found somethings that I have overlooked all these years - and boy it's a doozy... at least for me!

George tells Law Enforcement about the gas can incident on August 4th, 2008. I went back and listened to it again and it sure sounds like George is telling them about the incident for the first time. I would really appreciate if you all would go and take a listen to this part of George's interview with police. It's on Part 2 - starting at 2:14. Law Enforcement doesn't lead George into talking about the gas can incident... he does this on his own. He even at one point uses the words "The reason I bring this up..."


So what's the big deal? The big deal, to me, is that Law Enforcement confiscated the gas cans on August 2nd, 2008. Two days prior to George's interview with Law Enforcement. According to the article I found dated August 2nd, 2008 (I don't know how to post links) and titled " Gas Cans Removed From Home of Orlando Missing Girl Mystery" George makes this statement to the media about the gas cans... Someone broke the lock- gas cans were taken - gas cans with gasoline - probably $50 worth. I found out who took them and they were retrieved and that was the extent of it.

Sounds like LE confronted George with the stolen gas can report at his home on August 2nd, 2008. Completely catching him off guard. Naturally it had to pique LE's interest as to why they only stole gas cans when there were other items worth a lot more money left untouched. Again catching George off guard, LE wanted to see the shed that was broken into and George knew that the "unique" gas can that he had reported stolen was ironically sitting right there in the shed that LE was about to take a look at! Can you say BUSTED!

Please tell me if you think that I am reading too much into this... would we have never heard about the stolen gas cans if George didn't make that pesky police report about his "unique" gas can that he considered to have "sentimental" value?

EDIT: I can only think of what was going through George's mind when and if he was confronted with the gas cans... he had to think about those cans being in the trunk of Casey's trunk... the trunk that smelled like "a damn dead body." The trunk that he prayed wasn't his Caylee. Yeah, I'm more convinced that George was caught completely caught off guard with the gas can report... and when he knew that LE would see those gas cans in his shed... they could possibly be covered in evidence and he sang like a canary about Casey being the one who took them!

Wasn't it a grim point of pride in their family that Caylee could make her own breakfast? (What a lovely picture that paints. A family either asleep or too busy to feed a hungry kid).

 

[Pattymarie]

Of course she knew something was very wrong. But she did not want "outsiders" involved until she had a scapegoat to blame it on. Thus she didn't tell LE about it until she learned that Caylee had been kidnapped by a nanny. When she had someone else to blame instead of Casey, she had no qualms about reporting it to "outsiders" (outside the family, that is). JMO

But, practically, how in the world could they live with that smell? We had a possum die under our family room (crawl space) and the smell went through our whole house. It was gagging. We had to close the whole room off from the rest of the house and it still didn't help. My husband finally had to go under the darn room, locate the decomp and remove it (and this was just an animal, not a beloved granddaughter).
They shoulda just pushed the car into a lake if they wanted a real cover-up

 

[Horace Finklestein]

But, practically, how in the world could they live with that smell? We had a possum die under our family room (crawl space) and the smell went through our whole house. It was gagging. We had to close the whole room off from the rest of the house and it still didn't help. My husband finally had to go under the darn room, locate the decomp and remove it (and this was just an animal, not a beloved granddaughter).
They shoulda just pushed the car into a lake if they wanted a real cover-up

Maybe after the intense cleaning session courtesy of the grieving grandma it was somehow tolerable being in the garage with the door shut? It's a good question.

 

[joypath]

Originally Posted by Pattymarie [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5870202#post5870202"]

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But, practically, how in the world could they live with that smell? We had a possum die under our family room (crawl space) and the smell went through our whole house. It was gagging. We had to close the whole room off from the rest of the house and it still didn't help. My husband finally had to go under the darn room, locate the decomp and remove it (and this was just an animal, not a beloved granddaughter).
They shoulda just pushed the car into a lake if they wanted a real cover-up

AND:

Maybe after the intense cleaning session courtesy of the grieving grandma it was somehow tolerable being in the garage with the door shut? It's a good question.

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Very snarky & sarcastic comment to follow:

Since GA was a practicing professional LE and CA was a practicing professional nurse, perhaps both of them reached back into the annals of professional/clinical practice and applied the VICKS! At least then they could delude themselves into the odor as "not so bad, last night's leftovers/pizza". GA must have one heck of a venting system in that garage, some wicked wide windows, or somebody owns stock in Yankee Candle!

snark rant over::::::::::::::

However, after "cleaning" & "venting", IF the trunk were kept closed and the airflow WERE minimal, since it was nighttime and cooler, the bacterial re-growth would be somewhat diminished, thus the odor lower but NOT gone. However, I'm not recommending that Fabreeze call the inmate or her family to sign them up for a commercial series.:dance:

 

[Leila]

Musings for today: just went out on my back deck where an animal has obviously died underneath it. The smell of decomposition is so overwhelming it made me gag. There is no mistaking it for ANY OTHER SMELL. Period. the end. I do not know how George drove that car home.

About a year or so ago, there was a dead possum in our yard. My husband picked it up and put the body in the trash can, which was on the side of our garage. It was summer and a we had the windows open, and a few days later the smell of decomp was so overwhelming in our kitchen and family room, I couldn't stand to be in those rooms. I had hubby move that trash can elsewhere. I remember thinking about this case at the time and wondering how on earth George ever drove that car home or how Cindy got in it to clean it out.

 

[Leila]

I find myself putting a lot of emphasis on Cindy's statements and actions... and not so much on George. I feel bad for leaving George out... so this posts for you George! Enjoy!

George has always put too much emphasis on June 16th, 2008 being just a “normal” day in the Anthony home. I don’t believe this for one moment. If it were a normal day… why would George pay such close attention to the clothes Casey and Caylee had on that day? If it were a normal day… what happened that day would have been repetitive… something that happened everyday… so why did it change so much?

First we have George innocently sitting on his couch the afternoon of June 16th, 2008. He was watching one of his favorite shows on television (which we all know was not airing at the time) when Casey and Caylee came out of her room and Casey said she was off to work. George made no mention of leaving the couch until…

George says that he got up and walked Casey and Caylee out to the car. Putting Caylee in her carseat… then SUDDENLY… OUT OF NO WHERE…

George made breakfast for Caylee that morning. Just like he always did… I remember watching him on the television (some interview they did) making this statement and how utterly SHOCKED I was that this came out of his mouth? “Huh? Where did THAT come from? Since WHEN did you make breakfast for Caylee that morning?”

It’s almost like he watched an old episode of “Leave it to Beaver” and tried to pass it off as “normal” Anthony behavior. Badly!

I do think that George seen Casey and Caylee leave that day… but I don’t think it was “Alright dad, I‘m off to work. I‘ll see you later“… something more like “You’ll never see Caylee again” as she dragged a crying Caylee out of the Anthony home. Followed by a fight the night before and watching Caylee being taken out of that house with an angry Casey would most definitely be a memorable moment for George… a moment where I would believe he would remember exactly what they had wore that day. It had to have played over and over in his head as day by day went by without seeing or hearing from Caylee. I think the clothes Caylee was wearing when she was taken out of that house are the clothes that they “haven’t even found yet.” I believe Casey put Caylee in that “Big Trouble Comes in Small Packages” shirt after death. I also think that Caylee was killed in the Anthony home after George left for work that day.

I remember when I thought George was being so honest and forthcoming with LE when he told them about the gas can incident? The more and more I think about it… George didn’t WANT to tell LE about the gas can incident… he HAD to.

I think George was petrified that the gas cans, that he had reported stolen, were back in his home. I think that it crossed George’s mind (as it did mine) that Casey had used her own fathers gas cans to destroy evidence… possibly even his own granddaughters body. It was an “Oh crap” moment for George. He may be willing to sell his soul to the devil (his words) for his daughter, but he sure wasn’t going to implicate himself in the actual murder.

So, I was doing a little digging just now because I had a point I wanted to make about why George simply didn't just get rid of the gas cans and I found somethings that I have overlooked all these years - and boy it's a doozy... at least for me!

George tells Law Enforcement about the gas can incident on August 4th, 2008. I went back and listened to it again and it sure sounds like George is telling them about the incident for the first time. I would really appreciate if you all would go and take a listen to this part of George's interview with police. It's on Part 2 - starting at 2:14. Law Enforcement doesn't lead George into talking about the gas can incident... he does this on his own. He even at one point uses the words "The reason I bring this up..."


So what's the big deal? The big deal, to me, is that Law Enforcement confiscated the gas cans on August 2nd, 2008. Two days prior to George's interview with Law Enforcement. According to the article I found dated August 2nd, 2008 (I don't know how to post links) and titled " Gas Cans Removed From Home of Orlando Missing Girl Mystery" George makes this statement to the media about the gas cans... Someone broke the lock- gas cans were taken - gas cans with gasoline - probably $50 worth. I found out who took them and they were retrieved and that was the extent of it.

Sounds like LE confronted George with the stolen gas can report at his home on August 2nd, 2008. Completely catching him off guard. Naturally it had to pique LE's interest as to why they only stole gas cans when there were other items worth a lot more money left untouched. Again catching George off guard, LE wanted to see the shed that was broken into and George knew that the "unique" gas can that he had reported stolen was ironically sitting right there in the shed that LE was about to take a look at! Can you say BUSTED!

Please tell me if you think that I am reading too much into this... would we have never heard about the stolen gas cans if George didn't make that pesky police report about his "unique" gas can that he considered to have "sentimental" value?

EDIT: I can only think of what was going through George's mind when and if he was confronted with the gas cans... he had to think about those cans being in the trunk of Casey's trunk... the trunk that smelled like "a damn dead body." The trunk that he prayed wasn't his Caylee. Yeah, I'm more convinced that George was caught completely caught off guard with the gas can report... and when he knew that LE would see those gas cans in his shed... they could possibly be covered in evidence and he sang like a canary about Casey being the one who took them!

I've always felt that Caylee was murdered in the Anthony house, and more likely on the evening of June 15 or wee hours of the morning on June 16. I've always doubted what both George and Cindy have said about June 16th. I don't think Cindy ever "heard Casey and Caylee breathing" through a closed door. If she had said she heard snoring that might have been believable, but not breathing.

I think George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee leaving "like any other normal day" was two-fold. He was trying to make it sound like all was normal and if there was a fight between Cindy and Casey the night before.........all was well by morning and there was no residual anger. He also wanted to make sure that everyone knew that he saw Casey and Caylee leave the Anthony home and whatever happened to Caylee happened elsewhere..........not in the Anthony home.

I've felt that George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee leave on June 16th was far too detailed to be believable. No one remembers the details of what a person was wearing on a day more than a month previous that was not a remarkable day....just an average day. It would be a month later that George and Cindy realized that day was the last time anyone saw Caylee. And even when they were forced to try to remember the last time they saw Caylee, they didn't have the date correct - they originally said June 9th. Can anyone here remember what their spouse was wearing on November 3rd of this year?

I think George and Cindy were desperate to have whatever happened to Caylee not be connected to the fight Cindy had with Casey on June 15th, and not be connected to their home.

 

[Leila]

Maybe after the intense cleaning session courtesy of the grieving grandma it was somehow tolerable being in the garage with the door shut? It's a good question.

Lee said that when he arrived at the house he let himself in the side garage door and went through the garage into the house. He said the odor was overwhelming. He described it as being a awful smell.

 

[Pattymarie]

About a year or so ago, there was a dead possum in our yard. My husband picked it up and put the body in the trash can, which was on the side of our garage. It was summer and a we had the windows open, and a few days later the smell of decomp was so overwhelming in our kitchen and family room, I couldn't stand to be in those rooms. I had hubby move that trash can elsewhere. I remember thinking about this case at the time and wondering how on earth George ever drove that car home or how Cindy got in it to clean it out.

Exactly. You have to get away from that smell immediately. It is intolerable. That is why, when I smelled the decomp smell in our backyard today, it immediately made me think of this case. There is no getting around this smell. And no proof of a squirrel. I bet GA threw up driving that car home.

 

[LolaMoon08]

You are so right LlL . . . George was asking for the offer of a deal and trying to figure out how they could accomplish that in spite of Jose advising Casey not to tell anyone anything. That was very obvious in this clip. But something a little more subtile came to my attention here; the fact that George is eagerly advocating for Casey to tell everything she knows. . . If George were (at this early point) involved in any part of the crime or coverup he wouldn't be campaigning for Casey to tell the whole truth.

After revisiting this interview I think George's hands were clean at this point in time. If he had any unsavory involvement at all he wouldn't want Casey to be "telling all." Now after this date his involvement may have changed greatly. But here, on Aug 7, 2008, I believe he must have felt he was totally clear of any wrongdoings. This seems like a pretty significant revelation for me. . . but I am always on the slow track compared to the rest of you sleuths!!!!

I listened to the interview again and I don't know which way to go with this? On one hand, I believe George's hands were clean, but then I go back to things done prior to August 7th, 2008. Most importantly, the smell of decomposition in that car. The decomposition that he prayed was not his Caylee, but deep down, I think he knew it was. Even if he did tell himself that it wasn't Caylee after looking into the trunk, someones body had been in there. For all George knew, someone could have stolen Casey's car and commited a murder. Why would George even want to take the chance of taking that car to his home?

And looking at pictures of Casey's car being impounded, the outside of that car was spotless. There is no way that a white car, abandoned and placed in a towyard for two weeks in the Florida summer elements, would be that clean. Someone cleaned the outside of that car and who was the person who took so much pride in detailing the family cars? George! Now if you thought for a moment that whatever had happened in that car had nothing to do with your daughter why would you clean it? Erase evidence? Erase fingerprints? It just makes no sense. I can not prove that George cleaned that car, I could prove that a white car in Florida's summer elements would not stay that clean from June 27th - July 15th... unless the towyard as an added bonus with the $500.00 fee to retrieve the car includes a damn good carwash.

One thing that caught my attention, that always bothers me with the Anthony family is how they mention Caylee in their conversations. They've always done it, but for some reason it always irks me... George referred to Caylee as "This girl", "This little girl", and "This one." Caylee is more often than not referred to this way... and maybe people do talk this way? It's just the first time I have witnessed it? I have two nieces and I may have referred to them as "the baby" like "How's the baby doing? or "How's the little one doing?", "How are my girls doing?" I may just be looking to much into it, but when they refer to Caylee this way, it seems so distant to me. Like they are trying to stress the importance of Casey over Caylee in their interviews by not saying Caylee's name.

George simply confuses me. I don't know how sincere he was when he appeared to be "working" with LE because I'm not totally convinced that George wasn't trying to play "good cop" with the investigators.

 

[RR0004]

I listened to the interview again and I don't know which way to go with this? On one hand, I believe George's hands were clean, but then I go back to things done prior to August 7th, 2008. Most importantly, the smell of decomposition in that car. The decomposition that he prayed was not his Caylee, but deep down, I think he knew it was. Even if he did tell himself that it wasn't Caylee after looking into the trunk, someones body had been in there. For all George knew, someone could have stolen Casey's car and commited a murder. Why would George even want to take the chance of taking that car to his home?

And looking at pictures of Casey's car being impounded, the outside of that car was spotless. There is no way that a white car, abandoned and placed in a towyard for two weeks in the Florida summer elements, would be that clean. Someone cleaned the outside of that car and who was the person who took so much pride in detailing the family cars? George! Now if you thought for a moment that whatever had happened in that car had nothing to do with your daughter why would you clean it? Erase evidence? Erase fingerprints? It just makes no sense. I can not prove that George cleaned that car, I could prove that a white car in Florida's summer elements would not stay that clean from June 27th - July 15th... unless the towyard as an added bonus with the $500.00 fee to retrieve the car includes a damn good carwash.

One thing that caught my attention, that always bothers me with the Anthony family is how they mention Caylee in their conversations. They've always done it, but for some reason it always irks me... George referred to Caylee as "This girl", "This little girl", and "This one." Caylee is more often than not referred to this way... and maybe people do talk this way? It's just the first time I have witnessed it? I have two nieces and I may have referred to them as "the baby" like "How's the baby doing? or "How's the little one doing?", "How are my girls doing?" I may just be looking to much into it, but when they refer to Caylee this way, it seems so distant to me. Like they are trying to stress the importance of Casey over Caylee in their interviews by not saying Caylee's name.

George simply confuses me. I don't know how sincere he was when he appeared to be "working" with LE because I'm not totally convinced that George wasn't trying to play "good cop" with the investigators.

...and for all we know, he could have been encouraged to go into the interview and sniff around to see if a deal was possible. I never trusted George.

 

[LambChop]

Not saying Caylee's name is detaching. Too painful to come out and say her name. Does anyone know if LE would have cleaned to car to get any materials stuck to the car such as dirt, etc. for processing. jmo

 

[LolaMoon08]

I've always felt that Caylee was murdered in the Anthony house, and more likely on the evening of June 15 or wee hours of the morning on June 16. I've always doubted what both George and Cindy have said about June 16th. I don't think Cindy ever "heard Casey and Caylee breathing" through a closed door. If she had said she heard snoring that might have been believable, but not breathing.

I think George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee leaving "like any other normal day" was two-fold. He was trying to make it sound like all was normal and if there was a fight between Cindy and Casey the night before.........all was well by morning and there was no residual anger. He also wanted to make sure that everyone knew that he saw Casey and Caylee leave the Anthony home and whatever happened to Caylee happened elsewhere..........not in the Anthony home.

I've felt that George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee leave on June 16th was far too detailed to be believable. No one remembers the details of what a person was wearing on a day more than a month previous that was not a remarkable day....just an average day. It would be a month later that George and Cindy realized that day was the last time anyone saw Caylee. And even when they were forced to try to remember the last time they saw Caylee, they didn't have the date correct - they originally said June 9th. Can anyone here remember what their spouse was wearing on November 3rd of this year?

I think George and Cindy were desperate to have whatever happened to Caylee not be connected to the fight Cindy had with Casey on June 15th, and not be connected to their home.

Funny you mention Cindy's "breathing" statement earlier in this case, because she completely retracted it in her State depo. She says she didn't hear them at all in the room, but she knew they were there. She states "I did not physically see them." (starting on Part 2 - page 275 of Cindy's deposition) But wait just a minute... on page 150 of George's deposition, George states that Cindy DID see Caylee that morning just before she left for work... These people kill me!

 

[Pattymarie]

Not saying Caylee's name is detaching. Too painful to come out and say her name. Does anyone know if LE would have cleaned to car to get any materials stuck to the car such as dirt, etc. for processing. jmo

Yes, detaching, very true. I also think they can't say her name and look whoever they are talking to (LE, press, etc) in the eyes.

 

[Leila]

I listened to the interview again and I don't know which way to go with this? On one hand, I believe George's hands were clean, but then I go back to things done prior to August 7th, 2008. Most importantly, the smell of decomposition in that car. The decomposition that he prayed was not his Caylee, but deep down, I think he knew it was. Even if he did tell himself that it wasn't Caylee after looking into the trunk, someones body had been in there. For all George knew, someone could have stolen Casey's car and commited a murder. Why would George even want to take the chance of taking that car to his home?

And looking at pictures of Casey's car being impounded, the outside of that car was spotless. There is no way that a white car, abandoned and placed in a towyard for two weeks in the Florida summer elements, would be that clean. Someone cleaned the outside of that car and who was the person who took so much pride in detailing the family cars? George! Now if you thought for a moment that whatever had happened in that car had nothing to do with your daughter why would you clean it? Erase evidence? Erase fingerprints? It just makes no sense. I can not prove that George cleaned that car, I could prove that a white car in Florida's summer elements would not stay that clean from June 27th - July 15th... unless the towyard as an added bonus with the $500.00 fee to retrieve the car includes a damn good carwash.

One thing that caught my attention, that always bothers me with the Anthony family is how they mention Caylee in their conversations. They've always done it, but for some reason it always irks me... George referred to Caylee as "This girl", "This little girl", and "This one." Caylee is more often than not referred to this way... and maybe people do talk this way? It's just the first time I have witnessed it? I have two nieces and I may have referred to them as "the baby" like "How's the baby doing? or "How's the little one doing?", "How are my girls doing?" I may just be looking to much into it, but when they refer to Caylee this way, it seems so distant to me. Like they are trying to stress the importance of Casey over Caylee in their interviews by not saying Caylee's name.

George simply confuses me. I don't know how sincere he was when he appeared to be "working" with LE because I'm not totally convinced that George wasn't trying to play "good cop" with the investigators.

In watching George with LE I get the impression that he desperately wanted to be "one of the guys." He really wanted to be a police officer and missed his job in Ohio. I think George knew that something had happened to Caylee. How could he not know with the smell of the car, Caylee missing, and Casey's story that not only didn't sound plausible, but was found to be a lie within 24 hours after LE got involved.

George knew, but he was walking a fine line between the truth and Cindy's insistence that they deny the truth and cover for Casey, even though she too knew the truth.

In the very beginning I had sympathy for George. But I quickly lost all sympathy for him when he and Cindy engaged in confronting protesters with baseball bats and hammers, and when George had to be restrained from a physical attack on a news cameraman camped out on the curb. It only got worse from that point onward with George fully participating in Cindy's lies and making LE an adversary.

 

[seeing_eye]

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George simply confuses me. I don't know how sincere he was when he appeared to be "working" with LE because I'm not totally convinced that George wasn't trying to play "good cop" with the investigators.

IMO, George is a chameleon, molding himself to resemble whomever he is with at any given time. I also believe Casey inherited this tendency from George. JMO

 

[chefmom]

I'm more interested in finding out who exacting issued the statement, CA or GA? lol

I'm more interested in Ynot's pile of dirty laundry! :dance:

 

[LambChop]

I'm more interested in Ynot's pile of dirty laundry! :dance:

Do you think it's done by now?

 

[chefmom]

Do you think it's done by now?

Rumor has it, NO! Lol! :crazy: