MISTRIAL - Sidney Moorer on trial for the kidnapping of Heather Elvis #5

[nerdgirl]

I went back through the testimony about SM's phone. It was an IPhone5.

Call Log ***these times are UTC, subtract 5 hours***
Outgoing
12/18/2013 06:09:45 AM UTC to 18625962011 (green arrow)
12/18/2013 06:13:49 AM UTC to 18625962011 (green arrow)
12/18/2013 06:13:55 AM UTC to 18625962011 (green arrow)

Incoming
12/18/2013 08:17:04 AM UTC fromblue arrow)
12/18/2013 08:17:15 AM UTC voicemail(blue arrow)
12/18/2013 08:17:48 AM UTC fromblue arrow)

12/18/2013 08:38:45 AM UTC from: 8439978152(blue arrow)
12/18/2013 08:39:31 AM UTC from: 8439978152(blue arrow)
12/18/2013 08:40:17 AM UTC from: 8439978152(blue arrow)
12/18/2013 08:41:34 AM UTC from: 8439978152(blue arrow)

cellebrite (computer forensic software) has no tower data
calls would have pinged off of tower
Sustained Objection - This guy could not discuss ping data since he was not an expert on that.

next phone call is 3:17 AM - indicates conversation took place
report does not indicate how long, call came in, voicemail shortly thereafter

Instant Messages
about 4:37, 4:38 AM on 12/18
messages were deleted (briefly shown on screen, I could not get the detail)

On the Day 3, Part 5 video, the Iphone was analyzed along with an HP Pavilion it was connected to
Powering Events were collected (apparently this is power on only)
when off, location data cannot be collected
Phone was powered on at 3:02 AM, do not know when it was turned off

Location setting for Photographs
orginally turned on
metadata on photographs indicate in Horry County from 11/5/2013 to 11/11/2013
outside of Horry County starting 11/23
11/23 to 12/07 - to California, various locations, 12/07 in TN
12/10/2013, 12/11/2013 - In Atlanta
After 12/11/2013, no geolocation data available

12/18 there was a voice message recovered, about a minute long, no number showed up and no audio

So, the phone was turned off on the morning of 12/18 after 1:13:55 ( I say this because of the call log above, and the testimony of the first IPhone guy that did not use the HP), and powered back on at 3:02 AM. When exactly it was powered off we do not know.
The geolocation data for photos was turned off on 12/11/2013.

This is the video if anyone cares to watch it again:
[video=youtube;UN53x8XyU0M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN53x8XyU0M[/video]

Bumping for @CarolinaAsh
We were not told where the cell phone pinged, but the other number was on the projector- it is listed above in the call log

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[nerdgirl]

When were these texts sent, btw?

Around 4:30 AM on December 18th

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[nerdgirl]

I realize you're asking this of PTF, but my thought is that SM figured as long as he was paying cash for his purchase, there would not be an obvious trail for LE to follow on that. I don't think he wanted to be seen on camera, but there was no way to avoid it either. So he did what he thought would work at the time (cash purchase) with the hope that the cops would not find out. Why he *had* to purchase a pregnancy test that early morning is intriguing. There's no urgent need at 1:19am, but for SM there was. How police knew to look at Walmart is an interesting question--did they get a tip? Was there a cash receipt found? Don't recall hearing anything about the details.

These things are a little strange to me:
It looks like he has to ask an employee where the pregnancy tests are,
it takes a while for him to point the cashier to the specific tobacco product,
then it looks like he pays with a bunch of change,
all when the store is pretty deserted.

Maybe one of the employees tipped them off? I don't know, but wonder as well.

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[Foxfire]

JULY 2, 2016 4:22 PM
Jurors from Heather Elvis kidnapping trial speak about mistrial

Read more here: http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/crime/article87382727.html#storylink=cpy

 

[nerdgirl]

JULY 2, 2016 4:22 PM
Jurors from Heather Elvis kidnapping trial speak about mistrial

Read more here: http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/crime/article87382727.html#storylink=cpy

So one of the NG's was a female... I saw that on social media, but you never know if that is true...

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[LBDunes]

These things are a little strange to me:
It looks like he has to ask an employee where the pregnancy tests are,
it takes a while for him to point the cashier to the specific tobacco product,
then it looks like he pays with a bunch of change,
all when the store is pretty deserted.

Maybe one of the employees tipped them off? I don't know, but wonder as well.

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Yes, I thought I remembered it looked like an employee had to point out the pregnancy test in the video. That is a good possibility that they remembered him after seeing his picture in the news. Maybe that was what tipped them off to the Walmart video.

 

[nerdgirl]

JULY 2, 2016 4:22 PM
Jurors from Heather Elvis kidnapping trial speak about mistrial

Read more here: http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/crime/article87382727.html#storylink=cpy

This is the best though
"Archer said some jurors bullied a juror who identified himself as a friend of Kirk Truslow’s, Moorer’s attorney, because of his connection to Truslow, and said one juror even spoke to the judge about it."

I don't think this article explicitly says it, but it does sound like the other NG was the friend.

Read more here: http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/crime/article87382727.html#storylink=cpy



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[jillycat]

What evidence do we have that SM "was a player and a ladies man?" I know this is only your opinion, but I need to see something that points to his relationship with Heather being part of a pattern. IMHO, I just don't see it. Thinking about his life as a submissive husband, who lives in the backyard of his in-laws, and whose home-schooled children are ALWAYS there, I see him as having been pitiful and feeling trapped.

Along comes this vibrant, strong-minded, beautiful young girl, and she wants him! She allowed him to escape his miserable existence. I know we all love Heather, but we can't ignore what we know to be true, and that's the fact that she pursued him. In her own words:

I think the part about SM potentially being trapped and miserable may be the case (if TM's truly a narcissist, that's as toxic and unhappy as it gets), but it could be that he and HE crossed paths when things in both their lives were such that an affair was tempting or attractive and both were willing players.

 

[Madeleine74]

It defies logic that the judge would allow such a thing. If that doesn't scream "appearance of impropriety" I don't know what does. Judge Dennis is, IMO, a major contributing factor to this being a mistrial. Think of all the wasted $$$ courtesy of hiz honor. His narcissistic, chauvanist :butthead: should be thrown off the bench.

 

[jillycat]

This is the best though
"Archer said some jurors bullied a juror who identified himself as a friend of Kirk Truslow’s, Moorer’s attorney, because of his connection to Truslow, and said one juror even spoke to the judge about it."

I don't think this article explicitly says it, but it does sound like the other NG was the friend.

Read more here: http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/crime/article87382727.html#storylink=cpy



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I thought the other NG was a male who was interviewed and was not KT's friend.

I honestly don't think it's clear. But, I think that even if he was one of the strongest Guilty votes, he'll be blamed for the mistrial.

 

[Dixie E]

Please tell me that he (Judge Dennis) won`t be the judge on the new trial. It is doomed from the start if he is.

 

[magnolia]

Archer is the sixth or seventh person, that I know of, that has said the same. For me, it is really easy to understand why Heather may have been untruthful about the conversation she had with SM.

Archer said she also found Elvis’ former roommate Brianna Warrelmann’s testimony unreliable because she thought Elvis may not have been truthful with Warrelmann during the call she made after receiving a payphone call from Moorer.

Read more here: http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/crime/article87382727.html#storylink=cpy
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[Surfside]

It would be hard to convince me Heather was the first woman SM has been with outside his marriage. There are many vibrant, strong-minded, beautiful young women out there.

I'm not closed to the possibility that SM had stepped out on his marriage before; I just need something concrete to back it up. I've jumped to my fair share of conclusions on this case, but I can't jump to him being a player without the proof. I just see him as a pathetic little man instead of a ladies' man.

 

[nerdgirl]

I thought the other NG was a male who was interviewed and was not KT's friend.

I honestly don't think it's clear. But, I think that even if he was one of the strongest Guilty votes, he'll be blamed for the mistrial.

I'm just not sure why they would bully someone that agreed with them.

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[Surfside]

JULY 2, 2016 4:22 PM
Jurors from Heather Elvis kidnapping trial speak about mistrial

Read more here: http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/crime/article87382727.html#storylink=cpy

Johnson and Riley said they found the judge to be very professional, but both thought it was a misstep to allow the juror who said he was a friend of Truslow’s to serve on the jury.

BBM: For real?

 

[Madeleine74]

Please tell me that he (Judge Dennis) won`t be the judge on the new trial. It is doomed from the start if he is.

Sadly he probably will be unless public pressure forces him to recuse himself.

 

[Surfside]

I think the part about SM potentially being trapped and miserable may be the case (if TM's truly a narcissist, that's as toxic and unhappy as it gets), but it could be that he and HE crossed paths when things in both their lives were such that an affair was tempting or attractive and both were willing players.

I don't doubt they were both willing (read: eager) participants. I believe it's human nature to canonize the deceased, though, which is really easy to do with Heather. Sometimes the talk about SM being a player wanders into the territory of him being the pursuer. I wanted to make sure anyone new to the case, or to WS, was aware of Heather's role in the start of the relationship. That's all.

 

[nerdgirl]

I'm not closed to the possibility that SM had stepped out on his marriage before; I just need something concrete to back it up. I've jumped to my fair share of conclusions on this case, but I can't jump to him being a player without the proof. I just see him as a pathetic little man instead of a ladies' man.

Not that it is proof, but TM said she had been having him followed since 2012? I just assumed that was because he had probably cheated on her a few times.

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[magnolia]

BBM: For real?

I thought he was a good Judge myself. I like to see a Judge in control of his/her courtroom. I think the hostility for this Judge started when he granted the M's bail. It escalated when he allowed them to move to Florida. It has been said the M's were a menace to the community. If so, I would think the community would be glad to see them go.

 

[jillycat]

I don't doubt they were both willing (read: eager) participants. I believe it's human nature to canonize the deceased, though, which is really easy to do with Heather. Sometimes the talk about SM being a player wanders into the territory of him being the pursuer. I wanted to make sure anyone new to the case, or to WS, was aware of Heather's role in the start of the relationship. That's all.

I agree with your point.