MISTRIAL - Sidney Moorer on trial for the kidnapping of Heather Elvis - June 20 & 21,2016 - #1

[jillycat]

Truslow said in opening statements he called from a payphone so TM wouldn't know about it (like he didn't want to upset dear wifey anymore than he already had).

I think that falls apart when the "I just wanted her to stop calling me' defense enters the picture. I don't know how he could not want TM to know he was loyal to TM by telling HE to stay away.

 

[jillycat]

Agree. I'm sure he loved her body compared to his wife's body who'd been through four pregnancies, and maybe he even thought he loved her, but it's like an addiction....all just brain chemicals confusing the brain.

JMO, but I don't think he was that confused.

 

[Dylgem22]

I think that falls apart when the "I just wanted her to stop calling me' defense enters the picture. I don't know how he could not want TM to know he was loyal to TM by telling HE to stay away.

I was thinking this as well. You would think he would want to make sure his wifey would see him telling HE to stop calling him .. why run to a pay phone to do it??

 

[Knox]

You make some great points. When this first happened and LE and the Elvis family were appealing to anyone that may be scared to come forward I always wondered if they were talking to SM. And the reason LE arrested them right after SM almost had his nervous breakdown in the hospital was to separate them and hope that SM would tell the truth. Another thought I have is Polly could be supporting SM because her husband helped get rid of Heather and she doesn't want that to come out. I think they are all covering for each other. They know what happened and have their own role in it, including the sister. I think it's very strange also that SM seems very disconnected from his family, especially now.

I once thought that SM cared for Heather and now he has nothing but TM and his kids. I want to know how and when TM found out about the relationship. Was it before the trip was planned or was the trip to appease her, get back in her good graces and then after some time passed he felt it was safe to contact Heather again.

He has been disconnected from his family for many years, TM made sure of that. Does anyone remember the "Dis" forum post TM made about her MIL? SM's Father's Day post on facebook ... note how old the pic of his Father and daughter are.

 

[lstiff]

I can see what you're saying, but I do think these kinds of triangles are inherently loaded with too much dysfunction and dishonesty for anyone to be having authentic relationship with anyone. That's why they're triangles.

I think the bottom line will always be that if he genuinely cared for her, she wouldn't be dead. JMO

I do see your point. Most of the time an affair is not genuine feelings, it's a fantasy to fill a void of what they are missing at home. -IMO

I'm so glad we are not on the jury and can discuss the case during our break

 

[bestill]

I just had a thought, since we have learned via the defense that Heather was leaving notes for SM on his truck. Maybe she was trying to tell him she was pregnant. He knew he couldn't have that happen, TM would kill all of them. So the pay phone call was to lure her out of the house to meet him. He may have said I'll leave TM to lure Heather out to meet him. All would have been fine except Heather called his mobile number. SM didn't think that the pay phone would have been traced to him so he was in the clear. I really think the suggested pregnancy is what sent TM and SM over the edge.

 

[Dylgem22]

He has been disconnected from his family for many years, TM made sure of that. Does anyone remember the "Dis" forum post TM made about her MIL? SM's Father's Day post on facebook ... note how old the pic of his Father and daughter are.

I also noticed her FB profile picture is back to just being her .. no more lovey dovey together picture ..

 

[cujenn81]

I thought I heard SM say (after some prodding by LE in his driveway) that he talked to HE "yesterday or the day before" when she called me to tell her to stop calling and leaving notes.

 

[yupikgirl]

I think the payphone was a set up to lure her out. I guess he didn't plan on her calling his phone when he didn't answer the payphone that was called back 9 times. He figured if the last time he called and texted her was end of October and the payphone didn't trace back to him he wouldn't be on their radar- IMO of course. That night has so many possibilities.


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[bestill]

I think that falls apart when the "I just wanted her to stop calling me' defense enters the picture. I don't know how he could not want TM to know he was loyal to TM by telling HE to stay away.

Yeah, he could have earned some points by calling in front of TM and saying that.

 

[stillwatersc]

Did the questioning of the officer that went to SM's house establish a timeline for when SM told LE actually spoke to Heather? I heard "haven't seen her in 6 weeks" - then I spoke to her last night to tell her to stop calling - no mention of the pay phone at that time? When was the payphone call discovered and when was SM confronted with it? I'm assume LE received info of the incoming call from the payphone from Terry's phone log.

Yes. Also Bri told them that SM had called Heather that night. There was a video camera pointed right at the payphone and there was Sidney on camera confirming that he had actually called that night. Sidney finally admitted calling only after the video came out.

 

[atthelake]

What I've always found interesting about the pay phone issue is that she made calls to it after that initial conversation. We now know she made 9 calls to it. I've always wondered why she thought she could reach him at that number. Surely he had a story about why he was calling from a difference phone than his cell.

Because she had been told that "Daddy" has a new phone?

 

[LBDunes]

Truslow said in opening statements he called from a payphone so TM wouldn't know about it (like he didn't want to upset dear wifey anymore than he already had).

True, I can see that - trying not to upset wifey. However, the interesting thing may be that she was with him, when making that payphone call. We may or may not find that to be true as the trial progresses. It is just something that has been said online/publicly, that may or may not be true, but I have heard that.

 

[TTF14]

I just had a thought, since we have learned via the defense that Heather was leaving notes for SM on his truck. Maybe she was trying to tell him she was pregnant. He knew he couldn't have that happen, TM would kill all of them. So the pay phone call was to lure her out of the house to meet him. He may have said I'll leave TM to lure Heather out to meet him. All would have been fine except Heather called his mobile number. SM didn't think that the pay phone would have been traced to him so he was in the clear. I really think the suggested pregnancy is what sent TM and SM over the edge.

Do you believe that HE was leaving notes for SM on his vehicle?

Do you think that if HE was indeed/still pregnant she'd have gone on a first date and planned a second one?

 

[JerseyGirl]

Are spectators allowed in the courtroom? and are there any?
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WMBF News:
It is a public courtroom and, yes, there are spectators present.



The recess is over and the jury is being brought back into the courtroom.

 

[JerseyGirl]

This morning's update:

Stephen Schiraldi was called by the state to testify. He told the jury he and Elvis went on a date on Dec. 17, 2013, that included dinner at Banditos restaurant in Myrtle Beach, some time spent teaching her to drive a stick shift vehicle in an empty mall parking lot and watching a movie at his mother's house, where he was staying.

The witness testified he dropped Elvis off at her apartment around 1:15 or 1:30 a.m., on Dec. 18, and was inside her residence for about five minutes before leaving to go home.

Schiraldi said he and Elvis made plans to get together again. He added he tried calling her later that day and sending her Facebook messages, but never heard back.

On cross examination by the defense, the witness was asked if he left his mother's house at any point after dropping Elvis off. Schiraldi testified he didn't leave again until around 9 a.m. to go to work.

In response to a question, Schiraldi testified that, to the best of his knowledge, he was the last person to see Elvis before she went missing.

Other witnesses who testified during the opening session on Tuesday included an Horry County police officer who was patrolling Peachtree Boat Landing in the early-morning hours of Dec. 18 and found Elvis' vehicle.

HCPD Officer Casy Guskiewicz testified that when he saw the vehicle, all its doors were locked and the windows closed and intact.

Later, Danny Furr, a sergeant with the HCPD, testified that he went to the Tilted Kilt, where both Elvis and Moorer worked, after the initial report came in that she was missing.

Furr added he got a phone number for Moorer from the Tilted Kilt's general manager after the individual indicated that there was a relationship between the defendant and Elvis.

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/32270...m-witness-who-went-on-date-with-heather-elvis

 

[Hatfield]

Where on Mill Pond Road? I did screen cap but not sure if it is north or south from PTL? I can redo with address fwiw

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It is North on Mill Pond. This is the best info I could find in news links below. Go north on Mill Pond and I think its right near intersection of where Millpond hits that highway they mention below. I think its right around that corner of the intersection. Below is news link info.

"They reside in an area along Highway 814 that encompasses several homes, Fifteenth Judicial Circuit Solicitor Jimmy Richardson said on WRNN radio on Monday morning.

Richardson told the radio station that only the house in which the Moorer's live on the property was searched. Tammy Caison's father lives adjacent to the couple.
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http://wbtw.com/2014/02/25/who-are-sidney-and-tammy-moorer/

 

[lstiff]

Next witness for the State Jill (Julie?) Domogauer (works as Crime Scene investigator then and now).

 

[JerseyGirl]

WMBF News

First witness following the lunch recess is Jolie Domogauer, a crime scene investigator with the Horry County Police Department.

Domogauer said she first got involved in the case when she was called to a home on Sly Fox Trail in Myrtle Beach on Dec. 20, 2013, to look at the vehicle found at Peachtree Boat Landing.

 

[lstiff]

Now the judge has asked if the defense has any objections to the picture the state is having the witness look at. WTF