MISTRIAL - Sidney Moorer on trial for the kidnapping of Heather Elvis - June 22, 2016 #2

[nerdgirl]

If TM was standing at the payphone waiting for his call, from HE cell phone, two things wouldn't add up. First, she'd have been caught on that same video waiting. Secondly, she would have actually ANSWERED rather than all of those missed calls.

What if, in a panic, SM had the phone belonging to HE, and just redialed the last number she had dialed, thinking it would connect him with TM (who had the phone of SM)?

What if HE had saved the pay phone number in her phone under his contact name, thinking it was a new number for SM?

not sure if i am making sense, but trying to go along with this line of thought.

 

[razzledazzle]

I am pages behind but... she drove to the pay phone? She was parked at the pay phone for 14 minutes and tried to call that pay phone 4 times? Then she drove home? That is confusing.
And... they had SM on video calling her from that pay phone. Did the video show he left right after the call? They should have her on video too?

She drove to a restaurant and parked by the dumpsters and called the payphone. We have another location (the restaurant) based on testimony from the phone GPS expert witness.

 

[bestill]

I don't understand the short calls either, why didn't she let it ring?

 

[Madeleine74]

I agree. I think she was killed between 2:42 and 2:56 AM (14 minutes) while her phone pinged at the restaurant. SM drove her car to Augusta Plantation Drive and back to the restaurant, probably in a bit of a panic after he killed her or perhaps he was afraid someone driving by had noticed the car at the restaurant. He tried to call TM, who was supposed to be waiting at the payphone, no answer. Then he realized he needed to get something of HE's at her apartment, or needed to find something to help in hiding her body, so he drove her car to the apartment. From there, he used HE's phone and reached TM (who had his phone). He drove to PTL to meet TM, left the car, and got into the truck with TM.

All this said, it's possible it was TM who did the dirty deed. Perhatedps she went to the restaurant and surprised HE, who was expecting SM. TM killed HE and it was her using HE's phone to get in touch with SM.

Does any of that make sense? Did I miss some facts that make that impossible?

I think this is a fairly complicated scenario and without any evidence, the simpler story is the one I (and probably the jury) will go with in which Heather was the one driving herself and her cell phone up until the time she got to PTL.

 

[Dr. Know?]

I don't understand the short calls either, why didn't she let it ring?

She got a busy signal?

 

[scaredtopost]

Still catching up from my lunch break (ie: getting a day's worth of work done in an hour to make up for being glued to the livestream) but wanted to say: Expert cell phone witness was not contacted until 2015. I think state realized their initial conclusion she was murdered at PTL may have been a mistake. The data of her car driving around could raise questions. I also think SM/CB had HE phone. I think the several calls to SM cell phone were to back up his claims of calling to tell her to stop calling. Or to make it look like she was the one obsessed with him...
JMO, MOO, etc.

 

[LookingForClues]

Or maybe TM didn't answer the payphone because she realized she needed something from home and figured she had time to rush home and back before SM's call came in. So maybe she wasn't there, even though he was expecting her to be there.

 

[Madeleine74]

I agree with this. It has always bothered me - beginning with him driving her car home from PTL. My guess is that at that point in time, maybe he was not able to accept that a crime had occurred. IDK JMO

TE knew that a crime had occurred at the time he picked up his daughter's car? Can you point me to this?

 

[bestill]

She got a busy signal?

That's a possibility I hadn't thought of .

 

[Madeleine74]

Or maybe TM didn't answer the payphone because she realized she needed something from home and figured she had time to rush home and back before SM's call came in. So maybe she wasn't there, even though he was expecting her to be there.

If there was another person at the payphone making calls, or at any point waiting that very night/morning by the payphone, then it would be on video. No video... no person waiting at the pay phone.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

This makes me sad/mad that TE (per witness testimony under oath) did not consent to the car being processed fully by being taken away from the residence. I'm not blaming him for anything BUT I really wish he had let them do ALL the investigating and processing they asked to do to her car. They may have been able to find something to prove someone else was in her car that night/morning.

IMO

No matter what, I cannot understand AT ALL why this consent wasn't given. Hell, I'd have DEMANDED for investigators to take the car for a proper processing. Maybe we're missing something. Maybe there was no need for him to consent since didn't he drive the car from PTL back home? Or am I misremembering? If that's the case, then evidence could've been compromised.

 

[TTF14]

http://wbtw.com/2016/06/20/jury-selection-starts-today-in-sidney-moorer-kidnapping-trial/ This link has the SM interview from yesterday playing now. Will also be a live feed.

http://livestream.com/accounts/7710114/events/2872888 Like others, I found this live feed to be the best.

Bumping for the afternoon.

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[razzledazzle]

Still catching up from my lunch break (ie: getting a day's worth of work done in an hour to make up for being glued to the livestream) but wanted to say: Expert cell phone witness was not contacted until 2015. I think state realized their initial conclusion she was murdered at PTL may have been a mistake. The data of her car driving around could raise questions. I also think SM/CB had HE phone. I think the several calls to SM cell phone were to back up his claims of calling to tell her to stop calling. Or to make it look like she was the one obsessed with him...
JMO, MOO, etc.

I'm tossing this scenario around as well. She could have been tossed in that dumpster and no one had a clue.

 

[Madeleine74]

Wow @ the speculation. I mean we're finally able to watch the trial itself.

 

[bestill]

Where's the live feed? The one I have is showing the weather.

 

[concernedmother]

I think there was only enough time at Peachtree Landing for her to get in his truck. Why buy a pregnancy test if he wasn't going to use it? jmo.

 

[stillwatersc]

How much evidence does the defense know about before the trial? Did they know about the Long Beard phone pings? Do they know what has been collected from the Ford sync device?

 

[lstiff]

Next Witness is up- Grant Fredericks

 

[Madeleine74]

Time for the forensic video expert!

 

[U2forever]

Where's the live feed? The one I have is showing the weather.

it's on live now.