MISTRIAL - Sidney Moorer on trial for the kidnapping of Heather Elvis - June 22, 2016 #2

[LookingForClues]

Erin MacPherson ‏@ErinWPDE · 16m16 minutes ago
Fredericks said he compared other makes and models of trucks to compare to the surveillance video. #MoorerTrial #HeatherElvis


Erin MacPherson ‏@ErinWPDE · 9m9 minutes ago
Fredericks says his findings showed the video surveillance captured a black Ford F-150 truck. #MoorerTrial


Erin MacPherson ‏@ErinWPDE · 7m7 minutes ago
Fredericks is showing the jury images of the questioned vehicle. #MoorerTrial #HeatherElvis


Erin MacPherson ‏@ErinWPDE · 6m6 minutes ago
Fredericks is explaining how he came to the conclusion of which vehicle was in the surveillance video. #MoorerTrial #HeatherElvis


Erin MacPherson ‏@ErinWPDE · 2m2 minutes ago
The video surveillance he analyzed was on Mill Pond Road and Highway 814. #MoorerTrial #HeatherElvis


Erin MacPherson ‏@ErinWPDE · 2m2 minutes ago
Fredericks is breaking down his light analysis and how he decided the vehicle in the video was a black F-150 truck. #MoorerTrial

 

[razzledazzle]

Disappeared original home security cameras
Disappeared truck black box
Disappeared original truck headlights
Disappeared Heather

 

[atthelake]

I agree. I think she was killed between 2:42 and 2:56 AM (14 minutes) while her phone pinged at the restaurant. SM drove her car to Augusta Plantation Drive and back to the restaurant, probably in a bit of a panic after he killed her or perhaps he was afraid someone driving by had noticed the car at the restaurant. He tried to call TM, who was supposed to be waiting at the payphone, no answer. Then he realized he needed to get something of HE's at her apartment, or needed to find something to help in hiding her body, so he drove her car to the apartment. From there, he used HE's phone and reached TM (who had his phone). He drove to PTL to meet TM, left the car, and got into the truck with TM.

All this said, it's possible it was TM who did the dirty deed. Perhaps she went to the restaurant and surprised HE, who was expecting SM. TM killed HE and it was her using HE's phone to get in touch with SM.

Does any of that make sense? Did I miss some facts that make that impossible?

Or to wipe down prints at her house ...and left door open on purpose?

Again.. overwhelmed here

 

[CarolinaMoon]

I have to download another browser, one that AdBloc works with. There's no compatible version for my browser. DH/Tech checked it all out during lunch. He'll fix it when he has time. Meanwhile... suffering!

 

[rob]

But she was calling the pay phone while at Long Beard's. The M's would not have done that. I hope the State has a scenario that puts it all together.

If SM thought TM was waiting by the payphone for the call, cause they didn't want to use their phones....But maybe TM got impatient waiting, S wasn't making it happen fast enough, They thought no one would know it was they on the payphone, but, we know better right?
All MOO

 

[PeterThomasFan]

This slide pinpoints where Heather's phone was during 3:25:29am - 3:35:12am.

However, it is not a true representation of the route her car travelled, but does suggest the route she took to PTL (see map).

Google Map - https://goo.gl/TSo6Pk

22 min (9.6 miles)
19 min without traffic

541 White River Drive to PTL

Follow White River Dr to River Oaks Dr
24 s (0.1 mi)

Head east on White River Dr
171 ft

Turn right to stay on White River Dr
338 ft

Take Burcale Rd/State Rd S-26-992 and Forestbrook Rd to Peachtree Rd in Socastee
20 min (9.5 mi)

Turn right onto River Oaks Dr
0.5 mi

Continue onto George Bishop Pkwy
0.6 mi

Turn right onto Clay Pond Rd
0.7 mi

Turn left onto Burcale Rd/State Rd S-26-992
1.6 mi

Turn right onto Dewey Rd
0.4 mi

Turn left onto McCormick Rd
0.7 mi

Turn left onto Forestbrook Rd
2.3 mi

Turn left onto Dick Pond Rd
0.2 mi

Turn right onto Peachtree Rd
2.6 mi

 

[rob]

I've always wondered why she thought he'd be standing at a pay phone. Did he tell her it was some other phone? Did he tell her he'd wait to hear back from her?

We may never really know what they talked about and who knows how much BW really knows. I can see HE not wanting to tell BW that she was going to meet him.

So much of what's missing here is the part of the story that explains all of her driving around, returning to her apt, and deciding to call his cell.

I can't wait to hear what Bri has to say, it's going to answer some questions for us, for sure!

 

[stillwatersc]

LE may have removed the headlights during their investigation. Did the M's ever get the truck back?

 

[Madeleine74]

Original headilghts had been removed but then at some point put back on. That changes the angles of the lights, makes the patterns different to this expert.

Yes the M's got the truck back. No, I don't know when.

 

[Dylgem22]

I have to download another browser, one that AdBloc works with. There's no compatible version for my browser. DH/Tech checked it all out during lunch. He'll fix it when he has time. Meanwhile... suffering!

I was able to turn off the volume of the ads on just my forum tab and have the court video on the other tab .. can't hear the ads play but can keep up with the chat as I listen/watch the trial .. just right click on the tab at the top of browser and click mute tab another poster posted this tip and it helped me !

 

[LookingForClues]

They're talking about the tool box now.

 

[atthelake]

If TM was standing at the payphone waiting for his call, from HE cell phone, two things wouldn't add up. First, she'd have been caught on that same video waiting. Secondly, she would have actually ANSWERED rather than all of those missed calls.

Iirc way back they stop incoming calls on many pay phones because of drug usage etc. I just Googled it and it looks like it stopped for many in the late 1990s

 

[bestill]

I can't wait to hear what Bri has to say, it's going to answer some questions for us, for sure!

Agree!

 

[JerseyGirl]

This is going to be even more boring if we're not going to get to see the pics.....

(LOL) Yes, but...

WMBF News

Jurors giving their full attention as Fredericks walks them through the still frames.

 

[lstiff]

Geez Louise, they changed out the headlights? What a bold move on top of everything else they have done. IMO

 

[Carolina Girl]

I have to download another browser, one that AdBloc works with. There's no compatible version for my browser. DH/Tech checked it all out during lunch. He'll fix it when he has time. Meanwhile... suffering!

I have windows 10 and use IE. It was driving me crazy too. I was told try ad block and that stopped them.

 

[lstiff]

Out of 14,000 vehicles only 1 matched the known vehicle and it was the question vehicle from Dec 18th. AKA SM/TM truck.

 

[Madeleine74]

Out of 14,000 vehicles this expert watched on the surveillance there was only ONE that matched the known vehicle (the defendant's truck).

 

[Hatfield]

This witness seems to know what he is talking about. He is coming across very credible.

Wish all witnesses were this clear for jurors.

 

[panacea]

Geez Louise, they changed out the headlights? What a bold move on top of everything else they have done. IMO

What? You mean not everyone changes out the headlights on their vehicles now and again just for the heck of it?