Misty C #6

[crisnnan98]

Art asks WBG when the last time he talked to Misty was and WBG says: "i haven't talked to her since that Monday, early Monday.."

Why would he talk to Misty then, isn't that early Monday when Haleigh went missing??

Haleigh went missing Monday evening into Tuesday morning.

 

[Capri]

What "friend" is Misty staying with now that she is back from NY?

 

[KOOL LOOK]

What "friend" is Misty staying with now that she is back from NY?

Good question, if you find out please post. I read yesterday her Grandmother in TN would drive down asap on cue and retrieve her, all Misty had to do was say "come". If the GrandMother is not like the other certain Croslins, not all of them, I think might would be a good idea for Misty to stay with her.

 

[LFlorida]

I have this thought about the timeline here and when Misty turned on her phone at 3:15 according to LE.
3:27 is only 12 min. and if Misty is truthful in her suggesting she thought Ron had HaLeigh and was trying to get a hold of him first after look around for Haleigh and I do not believe she would or did leave Jr. alone to search to far away from the house which would account for her seeing 3 and the following timeline revealed so far..

Misty thought Ron had Haleigh?

Misty states she woke some time after 3 am.
Misty searches for Haleigh and then goes for her Phone.
Estimated time line of 15 minutes.
Misty turns on her phone at 3:15.
Ron arrives home approximately at 3:23-3:25.
Estimated timeline of 8 to 10 minutes after Misty turns on phone.
LE is called on 911 from Misty at 3:27 am.
Estimated timeline of 4 to 2 minutes.

What about the 3+ hours before your timeline starts? Who was Ron out partying with?

It would be hard pressed with this short timeline to try and see a motive to stall after she realized Haleigh was missing IMO, but, possible suggests that Misty could not understand what the light on and the back door open and the screen door propped indicated and suggested until Ron came home and confirmed that he had no idea where and what happened to Haleigh.

What?

Also I have again listened to the 911 tape and IMO Misty was very confused and scared at the facts that she awoke to, but, she did not come across to me as being under the influence of drugs or alcohol during the 911 call as everyone has theorized upon and suggested without any thing confirming this theory from LE; so I have to ask what woke Misty in the first place if she was not zonked out on drugs and was able to wake. Misty suggested that she slept and was aware that Jr. crawled over her and she remained in the bed and did not get up or discover if Jr. got out of bed and if the children where possible still awake after she fell asleep. Misty has stated that Jr. was not in the same place asleep as when she went to sleep and when she woke up.

Does anyone else not see how this little tidbit could explain allot about Misty remaining to be LE's key to this case.

Me, me! [Sorry, you might have to spell it out for a dummy like me to understand or "see" it.]

Also, If the truth has not revealed itself in someones statements it is Misty's and her suggesting her family early on ( cousin Joe) and even admits her brother has done the very same thing to her and that is how her family is.

Not revealed itself in someone's statements... Not???

I am now going to suggest Misty's current suggestion of who and where LE needs to look this morning on television has exposed this case once again to the general public; a bombshell they would not of anticipated like us, (hehehehe) and the things that have now been put into motion with the open suggestion of Crystals side of the family is behind HaLeigh's abduction.
IMO the heat is going to get hot for a few peeps in the next few days and I am willing to bet on why Crystal has not came out swinging in an effort to discredit Misty I will be very interested in her actions in the near future that are in response to such allegations made on television by the last know person that saw Haleigh before she was abducted from her bed in the middle of the night that require Jr. and Crystal and Ron to visit a counselor every two weeks to deal with their issues and Haleigh's disappearance.

Why do you think Crystal has not come out swinging? [I agree she has not, but I'm wondering what you are willing to bet on as the reason.]

OT to thread but relevant to the case does anyone think that PCSO will be asking questions of Sarah S.in regards to HaLeigh's abduction while she is incarcerated?

I think I posted elsewhere on W/S that I believe that PCSO has questioned Sarah and every other relative of Haleigh. Numberous members of the Squires, Cummings, Sykes, Belcher relatives [Ron's family] have been arrested over the past 8 months, so LE has had opportunity to question them at length.

thank you. sorry I'm not understanding parts of the post. feeling a little foggy today.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Just out of the mouth of Art Harris live on Nancy Grace. He states he spoke with Misty's Grandmother in Tennessee who raised her during those early primary school years told him that, "Misty had a hard time in school, hard time doing homework, that she would cry and ask for help, the Grandmother had a hard time helping her and that Misty did have "learning disabilities". Finally confirmation from a family member, the one raising her, more likely the school began discovering these disabilities through testing.

Sadly, it was way too obvious something was going on. I'm even believing Misty borders "mildly mentally retarded". She needs a mental comp done, which could explin how she's not able to express herself correctly and what could be throwing LE off. Making them think it's inconcsistencies, but that's what you have with the learning disabled.

 

[PorcineGranny]

Just out of the mouth of Art Harris live on Nancy Grace. He states he spoke with Misty's Grandmother in Tennessee who raised her during those early primary school years told him that, "Misty had a hard time in school, hard time doing homework, that she would cry and ask for help, the Grandmother had a hard time helping her and that Misty did have "learning disabilities". Finally confirmation from a family member, the one raising her, more likely the school began discovering these disabilities through testing.

Sadly, it was way too obvious something was going on. I'm even believing Misty borders "mildly mentally retarded". She needs a mental comp done, which could explin how she's not able to express herself correctly and what could be throwing LE off. Making them think it's inconcsistencies, but that's what you have with the learning disabled.

Kool, Misty is not mildly mentally retarded, see alot of people think that when a person has learning differences that their mental ability is substandard. But that is not the truth, people with Learning disabilities or differences can be geniuses. Its always been apparent to those of us who have had experience with learning disabilites that Misty shows concrete signs of those things. The school didn't notice because of testing, they noticed when she
could not retain or use information the way they had given it. Then, maybe they did some testing, but in general it was probably a teacher's opinion. But learning disabilities is exactly why Misty did not continue in school. When a child is tested by the school so much would be involved that I doubt Misty's family was very interested. I'm glad you are interested in this, but it is far more complex and not always what people imagine it to be. I feel authorized to speak on this since I had four ADHD, learning disabled children who had private tutors and drug therapy and visits to a psychiatrist.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I don't imagine what I know about the subject of learning disabilities, disorders, and mental retardation. Testing is the way diagnosis and prognosis are made in order to pin point the types of problems someone may have.

To be clear, never once have I said those with learning disabilties and disorders are substandard in their mental abilities. I listed 3 separate health issues, and sometimes a person can have multiple issues going on or just one if any. So I don't understand why your post is being directed at what I said, as I reported what was claimed by "Art Harris" by the GrandMother, which confirmed my earlier suspicions of what may or may not be going on with Misty. I do also state she may be mildly mentally retarded, I stress may be. Not saying this due to any disabilities she may have. It' a separate issue all together in my post. Hence why I think Misty needs a mental comp done that may help further this investigation giving others more understanding of Misty's ability to respond and express herself.

 

[stilettos]

I don't imagine what I know about the subject of learning disabilities, disorders, and mental retardation. Testing is the way diagnosis and prognosis are made in order to pin point the types of problems someone may have.

To be clear, never once have I said those with learning disabilties and disorders are substandard in their mental abilities. I listed 3 separate health issues, and sometimes a person can have multiple issues going on or just one if any. So I don't understand why your post is being directed at what I said, as I reported what was claimed by "Art Harris" by the GrandMother, which confirmed my earlier suspicions of what may or may not be going on with Misty. I do also state she may be mildly mentally retarded, I stress may be. Not saying this due to any disabilities she may have. It' a separate issue all together in my post. Hence why I think Misty needs a mental comp done that may help further this investigation giving others more understanding of Misty's ability to respond and express herself.

In my humble, informed and well educated opinion....Misty is in no way
mildly or otherwise even approaching mental retardation. It is a clinical term...and unless you have clinical experience and have evaluated and tested her, I believe you have made an uninformed opinion. I respect your right to express it, but I strongly disagree. JMO, respectfully.

 

[TxLady2]

What would be the purpose of doing a mental comprehension test on her at this point? (If that's what you meant by "mental comp") Are you implying that she doesn't understand questions they ask her?
FWIW, they probably won't require that until she is charged with a crime, and that would be to determine if she's mentally capable of standing trial. JMO.
And btw... people in the MHMR field do not use the word "retarded" anymore. It's known as mentally challenged. "Retarded" elicits a negative impression towards these individuals and we like to promote the positive side.

 

[Whisperer]

For example, we have WBG, NayNay, Joe P all saying in some sort or another there was a party and yes, Misty was there. Sometimes you have to read between the lines, and in this case there are a lot of lines..
Also Joe P, NayNay and i think WBG (i need confirmation of WBG in custody) are all in custody for one thing or another thus far

Druggies lie, or at least have real bad time recollection. It is a possibility that some of these things occurred and may have occured in a different time period than what Nay or WBG reported. So this stuff may have happened, heck, it may have happened on Monday Night for all we know...

 

[PorcineGranny]

Txlady, you took the words out of my mouth, the word retarded is a no no in all social circles but the lowest now.

And Kool,, if I may quote "I'm even believing Misty borders on " mild mentally retarded" so I guess you did have an opinion and did express it and I'm disagreeing with it because of my personal knowledge and experience and observation.

 

[CarmelEyesD]

However, IMHO. there is a big difference between 'learning disabled' and mentally-handicapped (or challenged). Learning disabled can be ADD, ADHD, dsylexia, as well as many other things. It can simply be a child who need more time to learn, different methods of instruction in order to be able to learn, or tutoring. Mentally-handicapped usually has a finite level of learning, ranging from limited ability to functional or high-functioning ability. Usually this is based on I.Q. A high I.Q.person can still be learning disabled. Someone with an IQ of 62-70 is usually, I believe, considered functional.

 

[crisnnan98]

Txlady, you took the words out of my mouth, the word retarded is a no no in all social circles but the lowest now.

And Kool,, if I may quote "I'm even believing Misty borders on " mild mentally retarded" so I guess you did have an opinion and did express it and I'm disagreeing with it because of my personal knowledge and experience and observation.

I would agree with Kool on this and like many other people, not knowing any better, would use that word to discribe Misty. I believe this is why she has such a hard time communicating what happened. I have no knowledge or experience in the field but this is the impression that I get of her. JMO

 

[debs]

I would agree with Kool on this and like many other people, not knowing any better, would use that word to discribe Misty. I believe this is why she has such a hard time communicating what happened. I have no knowledge or experience in the field but this is the impression that I get of her. JMO

wow. I would use the word "liar" to describe Misty. JMO

 

[azwriter]

wow. I would use the word "liar" to describe Misty. JMO

Sounds like a good choice of a word to me too, debs.

 

[txsvicki]

Just out of the mouth of Art Harris live on Nancy Grace. He states he spoke with Misty's Grandmother in Tennessee who raised her during those early primary school years told him that, "Misty had a hard time in school, hard time doing homework, that she would cry and ask for help, the Grandmother had a hard time helping her and that Misty did have "learning disabilities". Finally confirmation from a family member, the one raising her, more likely the school began discovering these disabilities through testing.

Sadly, it was way too obvious something was going on. I'm even believing Misty borders "mildly mentally retarded". She needs a mental comp done, which could explin how she's not able to express herself correctly and what could be throwing LE off. Making them think it's inconcsistencies, but that's what you have with the learning disabled.

I agree that some learning disabilities can affect how a kid hears what's being said and how they answer a question. A language disorder can do that, a lower IQ, and there can be problems with short term memory. My grandson has a language disorder and it definitely does affect the way he hears questions and he does not answer completely or completely explain anything. He can articlulate his words just fine, so a person wouldn't know he has this disorder unless trying to have a detailed conversation with him.

 

[Whisperer]

I think Misty borders on something more like delusional disorder. She believes she can handle anything. She believes Ron loves her, believes her story and will protect her. She believes she can handle anything. She doesn't even consider jail a possibility.

In the face of reality, she insists RC has never dissed her when it was broadcast for all to hear. Listening to her when she is not under pressure is enlightening. She is not based in reallity. She is on a call for a missing child and places herself as the mother of the child. S

This is more than denial, IMO. I wonder what her childhood was really like. Has she spent time in juvenile hall? Was she an out-of-control child? The one thing that keeps going through my mind is her comment to A about taking her child. That was not a normal rational statement on any level. Her judgement is poor as is Ron's. These two are not a good mix and in MO are dangerous together.

She never should have signed divorce papers w/o an attorney either. She is not normal by any means, far from it. I wonder what she is like when scared or angry. We have not seen signs of either and we certainly should have seen them by now. She seems like the type that would be out-of -control if pushed...IMO

 

[faefrost]

I think Misty borders on something more like delusional disorder. She believes she can handle anything. She believes Ron loves her, believes her story and will protect her. She believes she can handle anything. She doesn't even consider jail a possibility.

In the face of reality, she insists RC has never dissed her when it was broadcast for all to hear. Listening to her when she is not under pressure is enlightening. She is not based in reallity.

This is more than denial, IMO. I wonder what her childhood was really like. Has she spent time in juvenile hall? Was she an out-of-control child? The one thing that keeps going through my mind is her comment to A about taking her child. That was not a normal rational statement on any level. Her judgement is poor as is Ron's. These two are not a good mix and in MO are dangerous together.

She never should have signed divorce papers w/o an attorney either. She is not normal by any means, far from it.

It really isn't an uncommon delusional disorder. I think most pediatric psychologists have a technical term for it..." 17 YEARS OLD!!!!". At that age reality revolves around the teenager and may be warped at will to their perceptions, benefit and excuse.

 

[Whisperer]

Kinda makes you wonder why a 25 yr old man would marry one, doesn't it?

...so no I don't think that her actions are from just being 17, but I do respect your opinion and can certainly agree that it is possible. But Misty takes her teenage years to a higher level when she threatens somebody she is going to take their baby after she took her boyfriend from her. She also deceived this girl as she was her babysitter and turned on her to RC suggesting she was an unfit parent and he should file for custody/or at least keep an eye on her. Instead, he took the babysitter and moved her in with him and his children. She played him and she played the girl. She split them.

This behavior reeks of what borderlines do....not the average 17 yr old girl. IMO there is nothing average about Misty.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

It has also been alleged that Misty was abused, nearly homeless, and did not attend school much after 6th grade. She has used illegal drugs, and we don't know when that use/abuse began or what impact it has had on her social, emotional and cognitive development. The business with threatening another "girl" not much older than herself, albeit a mother, reeks of high school drama. What makes the behavior look so odd is that she is using her adolescent tools in the adult world. While Amber, Crystal, Ron et. al. are not the most mature and adult people in the world, they have some of the trappings of adulthood and certainly have more standing in that world than Misty, for all her efforts to play the role of wife and stepmother as she conceives them.

I once heard a famous psychologist say that adolescence is the closest most people get to insanity. The same psychologist called children and teenagers who take on adult roles for which they are unprepared "pseudo adults."