Misty C #6

[crisnnan98]

I think Misty borders on something more like delusional disorder. She believes she can handle anything. She believes Ron loves her, believes her story and will protect her. She believes she can handle anything. She doesn't even consider jail a possibility.

In the face of reality, she insists RC has never dissed her when it was broadcast for all to hear. Listening to her when she is not under pressure is enlightening. She is not based in reallity. She is on a call for a missing child and places herself as the mother of the child. S

This is more than denial, IMO. I wonder what her childhood was really like. Has she spent time in juvenile hall? Was she an out-of-control child? The one thing that keeps going through my mind is her comment to A about taking her child. That was not a normal rational statement on any level. Her judgement is poor as is Ron's. These two are not a good mix and in MO are dangerous together.

She never should have signed divorce papers w/o an attorney either. She is not normal by any means, far from it. I wonder what she is like when scared or angry. We have not seen signs of either and we certainly should have seen them by now. She seems like the type that would be out-of -control if pushed...IMO

Yes, I believe that there is something more going on with Misty. Not just a low IQ or learning disorder, although she may have them too. She doesn't seem to be able to think the way that most of us would. In her mind I think that she thinks that she is telling the truth and doesn't even realize her inconsistancies. I don't know the proper label but there is something wrong there. She reminds me of a young girl that I knew years ago. She would fabricate so much that she believed some of it and could convince many people including medical professionals that she was truthful and sincere. The truth and lies would blur together for her so she wasn't lying on purpose, more like she couldn't tell the difference.

 

[6angels]

Yea so she has a LD . So do I. My childhood as most know here was much like her's. I was molisted for 12 years. Only fisnished 7th grade in school or maybe it was the 8th grade.

I went on to adopted my sisters 4 abused children as much know. I BROKE the cycle shattered it into pieces. The cycle in my bio family runs wild!!! We even have a cousin in Prision for murder. ( dont ask me the case name when i am ready i'll talk about it here.


My point it Misty as no excuse and I truly believe she did this but a Learning disablity unless MR which I don't believe she has. It's not like she is on a 4th or 5th grade emoctional level. If she can threaten other ex Gf's and make a myspace and do all she ahs dont she CAN watch a child without them getting kidnaped.

 

[Whisperer]

Good Grief 6angels...How in the world did you do it? You are a testimony to the fact that cycles can be broken. You must have recognized what was wrong and were determined to correct it...a Big Job!

I don't see Misty in that regard. I am still going with an Axis 1. Something is not right...not right at all. She does not see reality correctly.

 

[Granna6]

When Art Harris was responding to NG's question about learning disabilities, I thought him rather vague on that point. He said that Misty's g'ma said she needed help with homework but that granny was sort of unschooled herself and couldn't assist. Then he said that the grandma indicated Misty had LD. To me, that's a far cry from a professional diagnosis. That just means that a kid lived with her grandma and that grandma reported she didn't do so well with her "book learnin'". Many kids detest homework; perhaps Misty, like lots of kids, was playing on grandma's sympathy. Maybe she didn't pay attention in class and then was frustrated with her homework. Surely there are records and documentation somewhere of those early school years that include testing and evaluation.

 

[chesterp]

It has also been alleged that Misty was abused, nearly homeless, and did not attend school much after 6th grade. She has used illegal drugs, and we don't know when that use/abuse began or what impact it has had on her social, emotional and cognitive development. The business with threatening another "girl" not much older than herself, albeit a mother, reeks of high school drama. What makes the behavior look so odd is that she is using her adolescent tools in the adult world. While Amber, Crystal, Ron et. al. are not the most mature and adult people in the world, they have some of the trappings of adulthood and certainly have more standing in that world than Misty, for all her efforts to play the role of wife and stepmother as she conceives them.

I once heard a famous psychologist say that adolescence is the closest most people get to insanity. The same psychologist called children and teenagers who take on adult roles for which they are unprepared "pseudo adults."

I wonder if there are DCF reports on her family and abuse she might have suffered. Since she is/was a juvenile I am sure that will never be reported. As for the alleged abuse, I believe that to be true, I know with all her inconsistencies..... I do believe there is merit to what she says. Look at her family now in the public....what happened in the past that has not come out and probably never will.

I am not making excuses for MC...she needs to come clean with the 3 days prior and that night so Haleigh can be found.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I agree that some learning disabilities can affect how a kid hears what's being said and how they answer a question. A language disorder can do that, a lower IQ, and there can be problems with short term memory. My grandson has a language disorder and it definitely does affect the way he hears questions and he does not answer completely or completely explain anything. He can articlulate his words just fine, so a person wouldn't know he has this disorder unless trying to have a detailed conversation with him.

Wonderful post. You have explained in detail what actually begins to occur once you begin to get involved at any length, some disabilities aren't so apparent, some are. The ones that are masked, more deep, are the ones so much harder to detect/discover and diagnose.

We must remember, when a child comes out of the womb, they don't begin to tell us, "Mommy, Daddy, I think somethings wrong with me. I can't hear good, I can't speak good, I can't think good, I don't feel normal". "Would you get me some extra help and give me lots more love than those that are more normal and able to understand a world geared to be an intellgent adult"?

 

[stilettos]

wow. I would use the word "liar" to describe Misty. JMO

...and i would add the word pathological...IMO.

 

[donada]

IMO the learning disorder MC had/has my well have been her own family. If the parents were drug addicts or whatever and she was raised at one time with her GM, then who was there to help her with school? Who is to say that she is not very street smart and just not book smart? My opinion is not in defense of MC, but if there is no core family, support, or structure in a childs life it sets them up for failure.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

IMO the learning disorder MC had/has my well have been her own family. If the parents were drug addicts or whatever and she was raised at one time with her GM, then who was there to help her with school? Who is to say that she is not very street smart and just not book smart? My opinion is not in defense of MC, but if there is no core family, support, or structure in a childs life it sets them up for failure.

Very true. Great post. I wanted to add our members Trident and one more, escapes my memory I believe has posted in Misty's new thread disabilities by Trica, brought up the very obvious factors to consider that you have also mentioned. I haven't touched on it yet in my posts for a reason, but you guys are so good.

Drugs, alcohol then nature versus nurture is what starts the child out from the moment it is born. We know these mitigating factors were contributors. Also mentioned the street smarts, being sly, coy. Yes, even those with disabilities know right from wrong. I'm in no way condoning lying on behalf of anyone. But I don't see Misty being sly. I see others not understanding her. There is a difference.

 

[Baznme]

Yes, I believe that there is something more going on with Misty. Not just a low IQ or learning disorder, although she may have them too. She doesn't seem to be able to think the way that most of us would. In her mind I think that she thinks that she is telling the truth and doesn't even realize her inconsistancies. I don't know the proper label but there is something wrong there. She reminds me of a young girl that I knew years ago. She would fabricate so much that she believed some of it and could convince many people including medical professionals that she was truthful and sincere. The truth and lies would blur together for her so she wasn't lying on purpose, more like she couldn't tell the difference.

That is what is known as a "pathological liar". She fits the bill.

 

[Donjeta]

Very true. Great post. I wanted to add our members Trident and one more, escapes my memory I believe has posted in Misty's new thread disabilities by Trica, brought up the very obvious factors to consider that you have also mentioned. I haven't touched on it yet in my posts for a reason, but you guys are so good.

Drugs, alcohol then nature versus nurture is what starts the child out from the moment it is born. We know these mitigating factors were contributors. Also mentioned the street smarts, being sly, coy. Yes, even those with disabilities know right from wrong. I'm in no way condoning lying on behalf of anyone. But I don't see Misty being sly. I see others not understanding her. There is a difference.

I don't understand how others misunderstanding her creates physical evidence that contradicts her story and makes LE think she can't have been doing the things she said she was doing.

 

[Muffet]

I don't understand how others misunderstanding her creates physical evidence that contradicts her story and makes LE think she can't have been doing the things she said she was doing.

Not to mention the fact that LE is very familiar with these issues, since most people they deal with have them.

LE has information we don't, so until someone can give me an objective reason to think they are wrong, I'm going to put my faith in them - not in Misty.

 

[crisnnan98]

That is what is known as a "pathological liar". She fits the bill.

More than that though, maybe Sociopath.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

For you Misty, step out of the Nightmare and into the ~~~~~ "Dream"~~~~~

http://www.cmt.com/videos/taylor-swift/443998/fifteen.jhtml

 

[kiki the parrot]

I don't understand how others misunderstanding her creates physical evidence that contradicts her story and makes LE think she can't have been doing the things she said she was doing.

Not to mention the fact that LE is very familiar with these issues, since most people they deal with have them.

LE has information we don't, so until someone can give me an objective reason to think they are wrong, I'm going to put my faith in them - not in Misty.

:boohoo:

(bbm) n/k. Yea step out of the nightmare Misty, the pressure cooker, by telling what you know. Think I'll take my cues from LE (Maj. Bowling eg) too...
"What we need is for Misty to come down here and tell us the truth. We know that it applies pressure in an area where pressure needs to be applied, and that`s on Misty. And Misty can relieve this pressure by telling her attorney that, you know, we need to go down to the sheriff`s office and really lay out in clear terms what I was doing from 8:00 p.m. until 3:00 a.m."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/22/ng.01.html

'"We know that it applies pressure where pressure needs to be applied, and that's on Misty," Bowling said.'

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21087935/detail.html

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[Hippy Chick]

One thing Misty said has been on my mind I don't remember who she told but she said that night she felt like there were at least 4 people at her house and it seemed like a dream to her. I wonder depending on what kind of drug she was doing and if she had been up partying for 3 days prior that might be a factual statement on her part. Drugs make you stupid and someone with a low inteligence it makes them more stupid. I remember back to my youthful partying days and people that i observed under the influence some could remember very little and some could remember nothing but they were awake and partying with us at the time. Maybe a combo of hard drugs, alcohol and no sleep for a few days got the best of her and her memory may be dim or 0. She did seem addled during the 911 call she may have well been out of it, she may have passed out and woke up when Ron came home and only then did she realize that Haleigh was gone. In the 911 call I hear true hysteria in Rons voice and alot of confusion in Mistys which I feel is drug and alcohol induced....

 

[Muffet]

Happychick, one thing that is impossible for me to get around is that Ron told TM that the beds had not been slept in, and LE confirmed that it was true. :sheesh:

 

[Whisperer]

If RC really said that the beds were not slept in and LE confirmed it, could someone please fill me in as I can not get inside RC or Misty 's heads...this is downright bizarre. There is nothing else to describe this. I must be in the middle of some weird psychotic case because none of this makes sense...NONE OF IT.

What are we all dealing with here? Is the truth stranger than even what WE think?

 

[Whisperer]

One thing Misty said has been on my mind I don't remember who she told but she said that night she felt like there were at least 4 people at her house and it seemed like a dream to her. I wonder depending on what kind of drug she was doing and if she had been up partying for 3 days prior that might be a factual statement on her part. Drugs make you stupid and someone with a low inteligence it makes them more stupid. I remember back to my youthful partying days and people that i observed under the influence some could remember very little and some could remember nothing but they were awake and partying with us at the time. Maybe a combo of hard drugs, alcohol and no sleep for a few days got the best of her and her memory may be dim or 0. She did seem addled during the 911 call she may have well been out of it, she may have passed out and woke up when Ron came home and only then did she realize that Haleigh was gone. In the 911 call I hear true hysteria in Rons voice and alot of confusion in Mistys which I feel is drug and alcohol induced....

Good post. I don't even know what to think anymore. He is a drama queen for sure so I can't get too impressed with his theatrics, even under the extreme circumstances. He should have been there for Haleigh and couldn't even talk to LE and let a barely 17 yr old take all the heat. He stayed outside waiting for Momma, IMO. He cried and whined on the 911 tape, and within a second could change it up to clarity and anger. What was all the "Get here right now" about?
They got there and he did nothing.

As far as Misty goes, we don't even know how bad off she was, if at all. We got info from a drug addict...two of them. Well, I guess all the players are drug addicts which leaves us all in a puddle of doo.

 

[Whisperer]

Basically, Misty was the one who made the call, talked to LE, explained what happened.
..over and over and over


...........Ron did nothing...Ron said nothing.