Misty C #6

[Whisperer]

Bern, we are back to square one, aren't we? You suggest her story does not add up and most concur.

 

[elle1919]

Crystal is not the problem at this time. The first thing done in an investigation is clear those at the scene. If they cleared R & M, the next to be cleared is Crystal.

My guess is the reason they are not clearing people is so they don't give any clues away to who the perp is. Let them get comfortable. Trouble is the perp already knows this and is not speaking and is highly cocooned. LE needs a break. The people involved are not talking.

Using this logic suggests to me that Law Enforcement are sitting on their hands waiting for the sky to open. If Crystal is not a problem at this time then why haven't they cleared her? Law Enforcement has said very little but what they have said is that this is not a stranger abduction. Categorizing Haleigh's disappearance as an abduction clearly indicates that someone took her. If Law Enforcement suspected an accident or foul play will they lie to the public and say abduction?

 

[Skully]

Bern, we are back to square one, aren't we? You suggest her story does not add up and most concur.

We here at WS are at square one, but not LE. They said Misty is a POI, that is the new term for Suspect. So they know who did this, just have to connect the dots. She will be watched for as long as it takes. They will continue to talk to people she talks too. Whether there was an accident, or she sold her, or if Ron was involved or not, she is the key, she is the POI. Please don't ask for a link, I don't have one, I try and go back and see if I can find a video, but I know it was said. Sometimes it takes years to get the goods on them.

 

[curvecuti]

Actually, they said they don't consider her a suspect.

snip~http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090829/articles/908291003

On Friday afternoon, Putnam Sheriff's Maj. Gary Bowling weighed his words carefully in describing his agency's view of Croslin-Cummings' situation.

"No, I don't think we consider her a suspect," Bowling said. "We factually know that she is consistently inconsistent and we need some factual exactness about her activities the night before Haleigh disappeared until the morning when she was reported missing."

 

[Skully]

Well do you think LE thinks she wasn't home, therefore, she didn't do anything to cause harm to Haleigh but someone else knew the kids were alone and took advantage of it? Or do you think LE is lying and just saying that she isn't a suspect to throw her off? If the kids were alone, no reason to brick the door. No reason to go out the side door and have to clear a pathway. It would have been a spur of the moment thing to happen on the MH without any adults, and an opportunity to kidnap Haleigh. So there was no planning, in a chance kidnapping. Remember the brick is not familiar to Ron or Misty.... But if planning is involved, then Misty was the last one with Haleigh. So if they are telling the truth(LE,) and Misty isn't a POI then who do they suspect? They are happy with Ron's 8 hours, Crystal in not a suspect, Misty is the key but not a suspect, and they don't think it is a stranger abduction. Sounds to me like LE is saying what they need to say to flush out the trash.

 

[curvecuti]

Well do you think LE thinks she wasn't home, therefore, she didn't do anything to cause harm to Haleigh but someone else knew the kids were alone and took advantage of it? Or do you think LE is lying and just saying that she isn't a suspect to throw her off? If the kids were alone, no reason to brick the door. No reason to go out the side door and have to clear a pathway. It would have been a spur of the moment thing to happen on the MH without any adults, and an opportunity to kidnap Haleigh. So there was no planning, in a chance kidnapping. Remember the brick is not familiar to Ron or Misty.... But if planning is involved, then Misty was the last one with Haleigh. So if they are telling the truth(LE,) and Misty isn't a POI then who do they suspect? They are happy with Ron's 8 hours, Crystal in not a suspect, Misty is the key but not a suspect, and they don't think it is a stranger abduction. Sounds to me like LE is saying what they need to say to flush out the trash.

Well, I certainly think any of the above is possible. I don't think LE believes MC slept through the abduction and I think there is a possibility she did, or she wasn't home. I have my theory on the abduction that involves the maternal side of the family, however, the more I see Tommy and hear of his severe downward spiral I worry that perhaps he did take advantage of the situation. Whether that advantage was do to MC being passed out or being gone, I don't know. all moo.

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

Using this logic suggests to me that Law Enforcement are sitting on their hands waiting for the sky to open. If Crystal is not a problem at this time then why haven't they cleared her? Law Enforcement has said very little but what they have said is that this is not a stranger abduction. Categorizing Haleigh's disappearance as an abduction clearly indicates that someone took her. If Law Enforcement suspected an accident or foul play will they lie to the public and say abduction?

I'm pretty sure LE can and will say whatever suits their investigation....they have no obligation to tell us ANYTHING, imo...I do think they stated it was not a stranger abduction to quell fears in the area and don't think they would "lie" if it put the community at risk...all JMO

 

[elle1919]

There are some facts that we can use to make one theory less plausible than the other. I think if we could establish the reason why Misty turned her phone off we might have something. The phone was off. Either through text messages or Ronald's testimonies alone we have the last communication between the two of them taking place on or about 8:30 pm. After that Misty turns off her phone. The AC Man was there, Tommy was there with the boys playing and GGS was there to drop off clothes while Haleigh and Jr were eating. I happen to believe that GGS went there as directed by Ronald to check on Misty. In my opinion, Misty wanted to do something that night, whether it was babysit or go someplace else, Misty wanted to go somewhere. I think Ronald sent GGS over to make sure she didn't go, especially since he called while the AC Man was there and he found out Tommy was over with the boys. Misty's evening becomes unaccounted for after dinner and after the time that she turns off her phone at 8:30. Ronald called her 20 times and her phone was off. I just cannot believe that Misty was asleep. If she was asleep she wouldn't have turned the phone off in my opinion. She turned the phone off to avoid Ronald.

Sometime after Ronald was at work, he found out he had to work extra hours, now he really wanted to get a hold of Misty and her phone was off. So, he calls the only place he thought she might be.....her families house. Did Misty put Haleigh and JR to bed and run over to her brothers? Was she there when RC called that night? Did she leave the kids alone and Cousin Joe went in while he knew Misty was out? Who knows.

Tommy lied. He did not tell LE that he went over to Ronald's house on the night his daughter disappeared. Why? There has got to be a reason he didn't want LE to know he went there. Then Misty's phone gets turned back on and the first person she called is her brother. WHY? She got her phone and by her own admission she had already went out to the kitchen and saw the back door open, so she ran to get her phone to call Ronald and that is when she noticed Haleigh was gone.....So why the phone call to her brother? Nope, I don't buy it. She might have turned her phone on when she saw that Haleigh was gone but I don't think she saw the cinder block or the door. Her phone was turned on after 3 am I think closer to 3:15 IIRC, the first person she calls is her brother???? And not even the semi responsible brother either. Misty turned off her phone, and I believe she left the phone right at the trailer all night, because we all know that if that phone pinged even once away from 202 Gr Lane LE would have instant proof Misty was not where she said she was. I think Misty put the kids to bed and then proceeded to get up to no good. That is why the phone was off. Did she leave and come back in the front door to see the back door bricked then run to get her phone and see Haleigh gone? She turns her phone on and calls her brother, "Oh my gosh I just got back and the back door is open and Haleigh is gone. " "What do I do?"
Seriously ask yourself this....if Misty called her brother when she turned the phone on wouldn't he have said "Well what the heck Misty I came over there at around 10 and banged on the door and you weren't home.....where were you?" Nope, the Croslin's are in this up to their eyeballs in my opinion.

 

[Whisperer]

What is the motive for cousin JO or tommy to harm Haleigh if Misty is home or not?

 

[Flossie JMO]

I'm curious Elle, where did you read that the first person she called was her brother? And the times? I haven't seen any release of Misty's calls or when her phone was on or off. Just trying to catch up.

 

[Skully]

Elle,

I don't think Tommy lied to LE about the call, in fact I believe he is the one who tipped them off that she may not have been home. That could go either way for him, it could put the focus on Misty or it incriminates him. He may have been told not to release that info. LE is trying to flush out what happened and where she was that night to narrow down who knew the kids were alone. My problem is this, if it is in fact a kidnapping and she's not home at the time, there is no reason to stage the MH. None. You come in, Haleigh is grabbed and taken out. No need to worry about doors slamming or waking her up. So if Tommy stopped by and knew she wasn't home, he could have just gone in the front door and taken Haleigh. No problem. But if Tommy and Misty started planning to sell her for a drug debt, the plan started at 5pm when he stopped over. Now by snag is why does she point a finger at him later on? Did she do that before rategate or after? Does LE release that info about Tommy checking on the kids before she points a finger at him? I know it was after ratgate, after the fight.... So LE is playing a game of strategy here..... Who is going to rat out who and why. JMO

 

[Skully]

I'm curious Elle, where did you read that the first person she called was her brother? And the times? I haven't seen any release of Misty's calls or when her phone was on or off. Just trying to catch up.

Flossie, I am not Elle, but I heard this too, but it was from the radio show IIRC. I heard she called her brother or her mother before she called 911. Someone claims to have seen the calls...... So I guess this is rumor if we don't have it in some official police report. But where did we read about the 20 calls? And the phone being turned off at 8;30 and back on at 3:10? Maybe it also has the call to the brother or mother in the same place......

 

[Whisperer]

From what I can gather about Misty and her personality, it won't be long before she puts a driving wedge between her parents and Tommy. Tommy should be furious that she is staying there, if he isn't, he has even more problems than I originally thought.

From the few relationships we have seen with Misty involved, I think she splits people......part of her MO/psyche.....dangerous behavior in this crowd...imo.

 

[Skully]

What is the motive for cousin JO or tommy to harm Haleigh if Misty is home or not?

After the Shaynia Davis story, I have to wonder if Misty owned a drug debt and maybe Tommy too. Tommy had it bad from what we are seeing. Misty is right behind him.... So if Ron was told that this was in some way his fault, and I don't know what that story would be, but if Misty convinced him of that, would he have incriminated himself on a rouse? Could Misty and Tommy have planned this that day as early as 5pm? Maybe it was those two that staged the MH and sold Haleigh? Ron thinking he was in some way at fault makes himself a target and thinks by marrying her she will keep her mouth shut so he doesn't lose JR, IDK, just still trying to figure this all out. The more we have learned about Misty and her family the more ugly this gets.

 

[Skully]

Hi Whisperer,

Depending on who you think took this child, tells you where she could possibly be. If Ron got rid of her body, you look one place, if she was sold to pay a drug debt, you look somewhere else, if you think CS or MG or Marty took her, you look another place. All the kids that have been snatch recently by a SO have been found fairly quick and close to where they were taken, so I am not inclined to go that route. I am torn between an accident, (which means RC and Misty have to figure out the whole plan and cover up) or Misty selling her to pay a drug debt and that just means she has to stage a MH and wait until Ron comes home. The devil is in the details as they say.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Hi Whisperer,

Depending on who you think took this child, tells you where she could possibly be. If Ron got rid of her body, you look one place, if she was sold to pay a drug debt, you look somewhere else, if you think CS or MG or Marty took her, you look another place. All the kids that have been snatch recently by a SO have been found fairly quick and close to where they were taken, so I am not inclined to go that route. I am torn between an accident, (which means RC and Misty have to figure out the whole plan and cover up) or Misty selling her to pay a drug debt and that just means she has to stage a MH and wait until Ron comes home. The devil is in the details as they say.

EXACTLY! Bern, this is another thing that bothers me too, Caylee wasn't found for months and only then by a stroke of luck (RK wouldn't say that about right now, but that's a whole 'nother story) when she was! The fact that they haven't found her just pushes me more towards Ron and Misty. As I believe that they had time in which to dispose of HaLeigh so that she most likely won't be found except maybe one day by accident I swear I hate even typing those words, but that's what I truly believe) All JMHO..

 

[debs]

EXACTLY! Bern, this is another thing that bothers me too, Caylee wasn't found for months and only then by a stroke of luck (RK wouldn't say that about right now, but that's a whole 'nother story) when she was! The fact that they haven't found her just pushes me more towards Ron and Misty. As I believe that they had time in which to dispose of HaLeigh so that she most likely won't be found except maybe one day by accident I swear I hate even typing those words, but that's what I truly believe) All JMHO..

They sure didn't have 31 days to keep the secret. Makes it even more amazing it hasn't cracked yet.

 

[Whisperer]

The eagerness to explain away RC gets this jumbled. He married the person who looks guilty, he has a Criminal Defense Attorney, he supports Misty.

If he didn't support the POI, it may appear a little better but rc has done nothing and given nothing about her up to LE or we would see him cleared. Yes, they would clear RC to put pressure on Misty...imo.

Marriage and Criminal Lawyer spells involvement to me.

 

[Whisperer]

They sure didn't have 31 days to keep the secret. Makes it even more amazing it hasn't cracked yet.

If the body was buried and there was no evidence at the house and they haven't found a crime scene, this case goes nowhere. RC knows to keep his mouth shut. There only hope is if another talks......nothing happening ... they may not ever talk; they have lawyered up. How many parents of missing children hire a Criminal Defense Attorney to speak for them??

 

[Whisperer]

I think Misty lost her cool with Haleigh. It could have been over a bed-wetting situation or the fact she didn't want to go to sleep. She may have physically harmed her or she may have given her meds to sleep. Either way, RC could be held responsible and he is covering this up to protect himself. This is my opinion till I get more information....subject to change.