Misty's actions/behaviors while dealing

[krkrjx]

If Misty doesn't take a plea, you can bet your bottom dollar that the scared, little mouse will show up for the trial. All confused and "I just woke up" and "saw a 3", "that's all I know".....

...and then the prosecutor will play the UC videos, and the judge or jury will get to see the "other Misty."

I agree, Bern, that Misty will play her youth for all it's worth. She does that in her jailhouse conversations until she gets PO'ed at NG or whomever. But when she needs a sympathetic ear, she's the poor little naive kid who everyone always took advantage of.

Yes, Misty had some disadvantages growing up, no doubt about it. But maybe her current situation will be the education she needs. A person has to at some point in life become accountable for their actions. Misty cannot just cash in on her sad upbringing all her life...at some point she will have to grow up in spite of herself. She did the crime; now she should do the time, IMO.

 

[Pondering Mind]

IMO she's doing fine, fluent and confident enough, whenever she's not being asked to explain what happened to Haleigh and why her stories don't make sense. Talk to her about her wedding, her drugs, whatever, she's happy to oblige; it's just those difficult questions that give her trouble.

Yep, those difficult questions being...WHERE IS HALEIGH?! I don't for a second believe that Misty has given up all she knows as some do. The fact that she apparently still has not told the truth (IMO) makes me think that she is as equally culpable as Ron, whereas I really had thought before that he was the perp and she was there and helped with clean up/cover up, disposal, etc.

The only other reason I can think of is that she would rather do her time as a "drug dealer mastermind" <<chuckle>> rather than to admit to any part in HaLeighs death and do her time for child murder. Sad part is..IF she was not the person who actually killed HaLeigh, but accessory after the fact or something along those lines, I honestly believe LE would give her a sweetheart deal on ALL charges to tell the TRUTH. I'm not holding my breath though..


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[Wendy101]

So I have to wonder, is it the drugs that gave Misty the confidence and happy, street smart personality and then when she goes to jail, she is off drugs and she is again the scared, little, whiny mouse, playing dumb for daddy? Still shaking my head.

Thanks again Papa, you know how to get the point across.

BBM: I don't know, but, when I drink alcohol, I become loud & outspoken, don't care about much other than I am having a good time...

I have no clue if drugs have the same effect, but, liek I said, when I drink alcohol, I think I can do anything...lol

 

[Wendy101]

Not to mention..IMHO, none of them are the brightest crayons in the box..and I don't mean book-sense...not a lick of common sense either..with them all combined. I have to factor in their drug use at the time to even fathom WHY..when they know that LE is already looking at them (R & M anyway imo) would ANYONE sell anything to anybody that they don't know?! hmm..I suppose I'm trying to give them the credit that I would any ordinary person and that just doesn't work in this case..

BBM: Well they have managed to fool the LE for what? 16/17 months now...

 

[akashana]

IMO: Misty does not look like a "seasoned" drug dealer.
She seems too..excited..happy..almost like a kid in the candy story with too many candies to choose from.. I don't know.. I just can't put my finger on it...

MY BOLD

She's 18. Give her time.

 

[Donjeta]

I read through this thread and put this together on some things I noticed. Misty seems to turn into a seasoned drug trafficker rather quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=216Qy5FGr64

Think she may have been just a tad nervous that the UC would arrest her after they're done (there was some talk about people warning her) and when it didn't happen right away she felt safe with him, thought he was on the level with her, and relaxed with him.

 

[lonetraveler]

I don't know what the typical behavior is for a drug dealer but, she seems to be pretty relaxed and acting very natural to me even play shoving the UC guy on the arm as they are driving. Would seem to me that would be less conspicuous than someone acting as though they were constantly looking over their shoulder and appearing to be paranoid.

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That's just it. She appears to be excited, and even flirts with the UC at times. She appears to me to be totally inexperienced as a drug dealer to the point that she is too dumb to even know to be cautious and skeptical. She appears to be a total greenhorn to me. A friend of mine calls it "gloriously ignorant". She doesn't know to be cautious or sneaky.

ETA: On second thought after viewing Papa's video of Misty's swift graduation I think that she gained confidence the more she dealed. She found something she was actually good at and had the support and approval of her main squeeze Ronald. I think that she is willing to do whatever it takes to gain his approval and love, and I do mean anything.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

my opinion: I think Misty has a low IQ, not because she wasn't born intelligent but I bet she never put forth effort in school. But, it doesn't matter what your IQ score is - unless it is below 60 and you need to live with assistance. If she has an IQ score of 74 she still knows the difference from right and wrong. That is part of being a member of society.You learn the basic meaning of right and wrong in kindergarten through elementary school years. The fact she is a chronic law breaker and shows no remorse...why would she show remorse about what happened to Haleigh?
No remorse = psychopathic deviate. ETA = she's street smart not book smart.

Some of the world's most notorious criminals had very high IQs, so there's no magic number for determining whether or not a person knows right from wrong. Al Capone's IQ was said to be 200 - a genius not unlike Mozart or Einstein. The "unibomber", Ted Kaczinski has an IQ of 170, and Ted Bundy, who was often called the "High IQ Killer", tested at 140. These are individuals who were blessed with superior intelligence, yet they didn't seem to know or care about the difference between right and wrong.

Being "book smart" has little to do with one's inate intelligence. As a teacher, I was keenly aware of students whose classroom performance was not reflective of their overall capabilities. mo

 

[Wendy101]

Some of the world's most notorious criminals had very high IQs, so there's no magic number for determining whether or not a person knows right from wrong. Al Capone's IQ was said to be 200 - a genius not unlike Mozart or Einstein. The "unibomber", Ted Kaczinski has an IQ of 170, and Ted Bundy, who was often called the "High IQ Killer", tested at 140. These are individuals who were blessed with superior intelligence, yet they didn't seem to know or care about the difference between right and wrong.

Being "book smart" has little to do with one's inate intelligence. As a teacher, I was keenly aware of students whose classroom performance was not reflective of their overall capabilities. mo

BBM: OT Wish you were my sons teacher

 

[Baxter]

ITA. i can't understand why some think misty was "enslaved" by the cummings. she was the part of the couple that took care of the home and the kids and RC was the part of the couple that provided. and he did a better job of it than her own parents had ever done. this is not enslavement. she was getting just as much out of the arrangement as she was giving. and could have left at any time as proven by her trip to tennessee. i personally believe she was 'ruined' long before she ever met the cummings and was already plent street smart.

Why? Because in one of the tapes, Misty finally realizes that Ronald and his family used her. MC said that his family was sick of babysitting and used her.
She also said, that if she tried to leave, his grandmother would bring Haleigh to her brothers and try to convince her to come back.

MC also said that RC abused her. I am sure her parents were not doing that.

 

[Pondering Mind]

BBM: Well they have managed to fool the LE for what? 16/17 months now...

I don't believe that they have fooled LE though. They dang sure haven't fooled me, lol! IMO LE knew VERY early on who is most likely responsible, but do not have the the physical evidence or proof that they need to obtain a conviction, not for HaLeigh's murder and they know and I believe plan to keep them in jail for years on drug charges until they do..but at this stage of the case without someone talking, it's going to be difficult. The devil is in those details ya know...and it's those details that are keeping this case from being solved.. imho.

Ron and Misty are (imo) smart enough to know that keeping their mouth shut is the ONLY thing keeping them from being charged with HaLeigh's murder. I never claimed that they were stupid..or that either wasn't capable of learning..it just appears to me that doing so has not been a priority for them or anyone around them, from what I can see anyway..but that's only my opinion.

 

[Pondering Mind]

See, I think Misty thought she was the 'chit'..Probably for the first time she was able to make a few bucks and score Ronald and herself some pills at the same time. Which in turn endeared 'ol Ronald to her even more of course..:sick:..

The fact that she 'brought' this customer who was buying (I believe) more quantity than she ever dealt with *to Ronald* and the fact that the UC appears to be nice looking from what little we could see made her feel like she was the woman, in her mind, imo..

Then the UC blew it off when he was shorted which had to be HUGE for them..but he was an undercover cop FGS, he could care less whether he was shorted! THAT should have been a huge red flag..but nooo..they were greedy and thought on top of everything else they had found someone else that they could take advantage of..MOO...

 

[oozer]

Why? Because in one of the tapes, Misty finally realizes that Ronald and his family used her. MC said that his family was sick of babysitting and used her.
She also said, that if she tried to leave, his grandmother would bring Haleigh to her brothers and try to convince her to come back.

MC also said that RC abused her. I am sure her parents were not doing that.

her parents weren't doing ANYTHING a parent should have been doing. and i guess if your of the opinion that misty doesn't lie about things when it suits her, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. i don't see her as this poor pitiful victim.

 

[dodie20]

I don't believe that they have fooled LE though. They dang sure haven't fooled me, lol! IMO LE knew VERY early on who is most likely responsible, but do not have the the physical evidence or proof that they need to obtain a conviction, not for HaLeigh's murder and they know and I believe plan to keep them in jail for years on drug charges until they do..but at this stage of the case without someone talking, it's going to be difficult. The devil is in those details ya know...and it's those details that are keeping this case from being solved.. imho.

Ron and Misty are (imo) smart enough to know that keeping their mouth shut is the ONLY thing keeping them from being charged with HaLeigh's murder. I never claimed that they were stupid..or that either wasn't capable of learning..it just appears to me that doing so has not been a priority for them or anyone around them, from what I can see anyway..but that's only my opinion.

I get where you're coming from, but there's more to this, than them being smart enough to keep their mouths shut. If that was the case, murderers would never talk. No, this particular LE is having internal problems. I think about how quickly LE got Susan Smith, & I wonder what's wrong here. Are they waiting for a confession? an eye witness account? It seems that their strategy was to name a 'key', & then let her take the heat. If they've got evidence pointing to Misty, they need to do something about it. If not, they need to focus elsewhere. They need to do their job, find Haleigh's killer, & stop waiting for this case to solve itself. & unlike some others, I'm not gonna be satisfied with these people being locked up on drug charges. LE needs to do better than that. Not one of these people is smart enough to justify this.

 

[txsvicki]

I think Misty probably does have some learning disabilities either inherited or possibly due to drug/alcohol exposure prenatally. But, Misty has a quick thinking mind. In the jail tapes, her visitors are confusedly rattling off several questions at once and Misty catches every one, answering quickly and in order while her visitor has lost track and is going "duh". On the drug videos, Misty never really smiles with her eyes and several times looks very serious and in deep thought. She didn't seem to quickly have a clue though when the UC guy said he was staying straight that day and didn't want to do any dope with them. Ron, on the other hand knew that was a huge red flag and practically leapt out of the car immediately. Also, people talk about Ron taking one or two pills, but isn't is normal and expected to take one and test it or something? I think he was doing something experienced and perfectly normal and was "teaching" the others.

 

[1Chump]

In my opinion:

Misty is not a dealer in the way most people think of dealers. She was a user. Every single transaction was about getting drugs for herself in one way or another. Every single time that she bought drugs for the UC, she charged him more than what she was paying for them. That is why she NEVER bought the drugs in front of the UC. She did not want to be cut out and have her supply cut off.

If she wanted the same drugs, her drugs went into one pocket while the UC's went in another. If she wanted different drugs, the extra money went into one pocket while the UC's drugs were in another. When Misty stole the one pill, it was the money was going for a different drug. When Misty messed up on the price, it was because that was not the price she was paying for the drugs but the price she was charging the UC to make money to get the drugs she wanted.

Even when she "purchased" drugs from the UC to sell. It wasn't about selling to make money. It was about selling, jacking up the prices, so her drugs were free. User intend to make money but usually they are lucky to break even. A user cannot resist doing the drugs in their possession.

The first time she was nervous because she did not know the guy. With each transaction, she felt more comfortable because she was becoming friends with him. A few more times and she would have been asking him to party with her.

 

[TrialAddict]

In my opinion:

Misty is not a dealer in the way most people think of dealers. She was a user. Every single transaction was about getting drugs for herself in one way or another. Every single time that she bought drugs for the UC, she charged him more than what she was paying for them. That is why she NEVER bought the drugs in front of the UC. She did not want to be cut out and have her supply cut off.

If she wanted the same drugs, her drugs went into one pocket while the UC's went in another. If she wanted different drugs, the extra money went into one pocket while the UC's drugs were in another. When Misty stole the one pill, it was the money was going for a different drug. When Misty messed up on the price, it was because that was not the price she was paying for the drugs but the price she was charging the UC to make money to get the drugs she wanted.

Even when she "purchased" drugs from the UC to sell. It wasn't about selling to make money. It was about selling, jacking up the prices, so her drugs were free. User intend to make money but usually they are lucky to break even. A user cannot resist doing the drugs in their possession.

The first time she was nervous because she did not know the guy. With each transaction, she felt more comfortable because she was becoming friends with him. A few more times and she would have been asking him to party with her.

Or asking if she should wear white for their wedding. :shakehead:

 

[Whisperer]

her parents weren't doing ANYTHING a parent should have been doing. and i guess if your of the opinion that misty doesn't lie about things when it suits her, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. i don't see her as this poor pitiful victim.

I don't see her as a poor pitiful victim either, I see her as a girl that will do anything for the man she adores.

While her parents weren't doing things you thought they should do, rc wasn't doing things I thought he should do either. I man of 25 going after and sleeping with a sixteen year old would place her as a victim in many people's minds.

 

[dodie20]

well, by law, Ron's & Misty's ages did make her a victim-even if just a legal victim. LE not going after him for that, IMO, sent the message that they didn't give a hoot about Misty, & Ron could do no wrong. It's like, from the very beginning, they were trying to mold Misty into the bad guy. & I don't appreciate that. They should follow the law, & let the chips fall where they may. Did LE not have the forethought that if Ron hadn't been bedding teenagers, none of this would likely have happened? Why won't they admit that Ronald is at the least, partly to blame? If they had done something about that, they probably wouldn't have gotten married, then divorced, & then been dealing together. A lot of the unnecessary drama could have been avoided.

 

[nightfallgypsy]

About Misty's behavior... I think she was enjoying being the "middleman" in these deals. However Misty doesn't have the math skills to be a real player. I think the UC did a good job pretending to be parinoid himself, giving Ron and Misty a false sense of security. Misty is flirting with UC to get a rise out of Ron. The problem was, Ron was starry-eyed himself. Ron was bragging about liking cocaine and future drug deals, the UC tried to ignore him. I think the cops were out to catch Misty in a net but Ron foolishly stumbled into the trap too.