MN - Alex Pretti dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

[Sundog]

Please explain to me how a man who had his back to ICE agents while he was helping two women who had been pushed to the ground and pepper sprayed by ICE, inserted himself into the situation. The 'situation' as you call it only occurred when the agents gang piled on him hitting him repeatedly on the head with a gas cannister and grappling with him while he was protecting himself from the blows. During that melee an ICE agent saw his weapon and removed it. In seconds he was dead. He didn't insert himself in anything other than trying to be a good human. Perhaps you're not familiar with the concept. I have a question about authority and who can use it and who must comply. It's a tricky question because authority can either be used as a cudgel to coerce and control or a staff to govern and protect all. What do you see in the attachment? No one stood up for these people when those in authority came for them.

Out of respect for representatives of the U.S. Holocaust Museum, I think it would be best not to compare the Holocaust with the deportation of illegal immigrants in the U.S., per the wishes of the leadership of the U.S. Holocaust Museum, as posted in an article above.

JMO

 

[branmuffin]

I'm not sure if this is considered off topic, but this rhetoric reminds me very strongly of the victim blaming that happens in rape cases. Instead of focusing on the fact that a man was killed without posing a threat (I suppose there is shades of gray in use of force cases, but I feel like the majority of people would agree that 10 shots in the back should only ever happen in the most dire circumstances) and instead the focus is on 'why was he there in the first place'. It reminds me of how people would say 'why was she out drinking at all? That's not safe for a woman to do' instead of acknowledging that what happened was wrong. Imo there is a difference between 'it is risky to attend a protest' and 'well just don't do XYZ and you won't get shot'. I feel like the second statement is accepting being shot 10 times as an acceptable consequence for attending a protest, and I think that is very very wrong. Citizens should not have to fear death while exercising their right to protest. I have never seen anyone state that the appropriate response to obstructing law enforcement should be execution; if someone is breaking the law that does not give blanket permission for officers to use lethal force. Your comment is largely about what ICE 'will do' and does not ever acknowledge that perhaps they should NOT be behaving in the reckless manner they are. Everything is moo of course, with the exception of the constitutional rights of US citizens

Yep, when a woman is assaulted a lot of people resort to things like 'look at the way she was dressed' or 'don't drink if you can't hold your liquor'. No one ever blames someone walking down the street who gets mugged. 'You mean he had his wallet on him? No wonder he was robbed' said no one ever.

 

[SouthAussie]

Assistant U.S. Attorney Friedrich Siekert told Judge Eric C. Tostrud on Monday that any state requests for evidence in a potential criminal investigation against the agents who opened fire on Pretti would likely be available through standard public records requests — only after “the conclusion of all federal matters.”

Minnesota ICE latest: Border Patrol chief Bovino sent home over Alex Pretti shooting

Bovino and other federal agents will depart Minneapolis as early as Tuesday, according to reports

www.independent.co.uk

 

[seasideForest]

When I look at the footage I see a man go to help a woman who's been shoved. I then see him pepper sprayed, beaten up and shot to death.

But some people are seeing people getting in the way of LE trying to apprehend violent criminals. That is what the job of ICE is supposed to be, isn't it?

Could we all try and step back and realise that neither of these two perspectives is 100% incorrect, and that people seeing it from the other side are not bad people?

I understand where you're coming from and you're right it's good to take a step back and not vilify those people with a different opinion.

However I haven't heard or read any confirmation that ICE or in this case Border control were trying to apprehend a "violent criminal". They were trying to apprehend somebody whose name is on the thread somewhere. But there is also an article linked at least once on this thread reporting from either Minnesota police or Minneapolis police that this somebody did NOT have a criminal record. No criminal record? He's not a criminal. No criminal record? How is it possible for other people on this thread to state he was "violent"?? On what basis? Do they know him personally? I doubt it! Can they provide proof other than quotes from Trump or ICE/border control?

 JMO

My source is in my next post down on this thread. Sry can't link well on my phone.

 

[SouthAussie]

The judge also repeatedly asked about a letter from Attorney General Pam Bondi to Governor Tim Walz, suggesting that Trump could withdraw federal officers if the state repeals so-called “sanctuary” policies and hands over reams of voter information and lists of Medicare and food assistance recipients.

“Is the executive trying to achieve a goal through force that it cannot achieve through the courts?” Judge Menendez asked the government.

DOJ wants Minnesota blocked from Alex Pretti evidence as judges take on Trump surge

State officials fight in court to preserve evidence and push for an end to Trump’s ‘invasion’

www.the-independent.com

 

[nao]

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/26/minnesota-immigration-cases-ice-00746275

 

[branmuffin]

Out of respect for representatives of the U.S. Holocaust Museum, I think it would be best not to compare the Holocaust with the deportation of illegal immigrants in the U.S., per the wishes of the leadership of the U.S. Holocaust Museum, as posted in an article above.

JMO

How is it not respectful to acknowledge that people in Italy were rounded up by the authorities and the populace did what ICE and pro ICE Americans are requesting: let them do their jobs. It's funny you should bring up this subject considering that the Trump Administration closed the US Holocaust Memorial Museum last year for upgrades but many of the members are worried that Trump is trying re-align the museum's focus on Trump's idea of American exceptionalism. Here's the AI short form:
While scheduled as an upgrade, the closure coincides with broad Trump administration reviews of museum content, sparking staff concern over potential revisions to the exhibit's critical look at US responses to Nazi Germany.
Key details regarding this and related actions:

• Affected Exhibit: The Americans and the Holocaust exhibition examines how Depression-era xenophobia, racism, and antisemitism shaped the U.S. response to Nazism.
• Concerns: The closure has raised concerns among staff regarding potential changes to the narrative, particularly as it pertains to the U.S. government's actions during that era.
• Broader Context: The Trump administration has ordered reviews of various museums, including the Smithsonian, to align content with "American ideals," specifically targeting exhibits on slavery and race.

 

[Charlot123]

Out of respect for representatives of the U.S. Holocaust Museum, I think it would be best not to compare the Holocaust with the deportation of illegal immigrants in the U.S., per the wishes of the leadership of the U.S. Holocaust Museum, as posted in an article above.

JMO

Sundog, per your request, let us not use the comparison with the Holocaust, all the more so that among the two side-by-side photos they used, one is virtually called "the last Jew in Vinnitsa". I understand.

But we still can use comparison to nazism, can we not?

What was written above the podium during Noem's speech on January 8, 2026 in NYC?

"One of ours - all of yours".

Does the head of DHS even know what it means?

Initially it was the slogan of Francisco Franco's Spanish phalangists. But in 1942, it became the symbol of Lidice massacre.

Lidice was a Czech village destroyed by Nazi forces on June 9–10, 1942. Over 340 residents (192 men, 60 women, 88 children) were murdered or sent to camps in retaliation for the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich, making it the symbol of Nazi atrocities. The slogan "one of ours - all of yours" is usually used in the context of Lidice, less frequently in is related to Franco's fascists.

So why does our DHS Secretary Kristi Noem choose to put such a message on the podium? What is it supposed to mean in the context of American people?

 

[seasideForest]

Imo, the idea that one should observe people being pepper sprayed and assaulted and shrug and keep walking is rather upsetting, especially if one is a medical professional. We know that the woman Alex tried to help was not the target of the operation; that was a man (see link);

target of operation

RSBM for focus

This is one source on this thread proving what I wrote a few posts above about the supposed violent criminal.

ETA Sry @marloweclover just making good use of your post.

 

[Sundog]

How is it not respectful to acknowledge that people in Italy were rounded up by the authorities and the populace did what ICE and pro ICE Americans are requesting: let them do their jobs.

SBM

Here is the article from representatives of the U.S. Holocaust Museum and why they find it inappropriate.

ETA link

MSN

 

[branmuffin]

Please note: analyzing the events that unfolded does not equate with declaring that the shooting was justified.

But, there's always a but ... the woman in the white coat and black toque, who was eventually shoved by ICE, was talking to ICE agents when everything went wrong. Why was she, an "observer", talking to ICE agents? Could that be interpreted as crossing the line of non-interference with federal ICE agents conducting an arrest? That interaction triggered everything that followed.

green: white Coat woman following ICE agents, talking to him
red: Ice Agent looking back at white coat woman
Pretti: escorting a woman away from possible confrontation?
View attachment 639568

green: white coat woman is still interacting with ICE agent
red: ICE agent giving her his full attention
Pretti: looking back and paying attention to white coat woman
View attachment 639569

green: white coat woman still talking to ICE agent ... saying what?
red: ICE agent shoves woman in white coat
Pretti: giving full attention to woman talking to ICE agent
View attachment 639570

green: woman in white coat slipped and fell on snow
red: ICE agent grabbing Pretti's hand
Pretti: stepped in between ICE agent and woman who was talking to ICE agent
View attachment 639574

When the nurse (Pretti) tried to help the woman in the white coat stand up, ICE agents may have assumed that they were together. That is when more agents approached and tackled Pretti.

If the woman in the white coat had observed, and not interacted with ICE agents, would Pretti have been shot?

Guardian News:

So a woman approaches an ICE agent and has an interaction with him. Whatever she said caused the agent to become aggressive and push her down. Because unlike other LE with proper training, they've haven't been trained to de-escalate a situation. She posed no threat him and I don't care what she said or called him. If someone carrying a weapon can be so affected by what someone says they shouldn't be in LE.

So to reframe your scenario I think it went this way: a woman walks toward and ICE agent and says something he didn't like so he pushes her violently to the ground and when another woman tries to help her, the agent pushes both of them down making it impossible to get away on a slippery pile of snow until... this man decided to help them. In doing so, he along with both women were pepper sprayed and pepper sprayed and pepper sprayed. Yet, Pretti continued to try and help them until numerous agents dragged him away to his death. That's a scenario that is supported by the video, Otto. I can't respond to an encounter that had no bearing on what happened to Alex Pretti.

 

[Marantz4250b]

"Peaceful Protest", Yes. Bringing a gun to a "Peaceful Protest'. No.

He was exercising his right to carry the pistol and was doing nothing unlawful.

You may as well say that he was allowed to go to the protest but not to say anything or show any banner written material - 1st Amendment.

You don't get to decide how and where someone is allowed to exercise their right. If you did they wouldn't be rights.

 

[Charlot123]

SBM

I doubt he was returning from a shift at a veteran's hospital, as I don't think you can conceal carry a weapon in a federal hospital. He would have had to leave it in his car or somewhere else while at work, I would think. Perhaps an attorney can shed light on this.

It easy to imagine the nurse undressing to put on uniform and leaving clothes/things in a locker, isn't it?

I really don't know what the specific rules of VA are, not in the ICU or the floors of course, but given that specifically in VA, some patients brought by EMT may have weapons with them, I think there is a place in the hospital beyond which it is not allowed to proceed with the weapons. But there should be designated places to hold them, realistically. I'd expect them to be kept in lockers or such. But I can ask a doctor who works there. )

What i read is that Alex just finished his shift.

 

[SouthAussie]

Since the killing of Alex, one of the lawyers who is representing Jonathon Ross (the ICE agent who killed Renee Good) has dropped out of the Minnesota gubernatorial race ..... another repercussion of the killing of Alex.


"Chris Madel, a Republican candidate for governor of Minnesota and the lawyer representing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officer who fatally shot Renee Macklin Good, has dropped out of the state's gubernatorial race ...

"I cannot support the national Republicans' stated retribution on the citizens of our state, nor can I count myself a member of a party that would do so," Madel said in a nearly 11-minute video posted to X on Monday.

It's the latest rebuke of the Trump administration's handling of the escalating political unrest in the city, just two days after intensive care nurse Alex Pretti was shot and killed by a federal agent during protests over the weekend."

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/26/nx-s1-5688899/chris-madel-minnesota-governor-ice-alex-pretti

 

[Sundog]

Sundog, per your request, let us not use the comparison with the Holocaust

I agree.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Sundog, per your request, let us not use the comparison with the Holocaust, all the more so that among the two side-by-side photos they used, one is virtually called "the last Jew in Vinnitsa". I understand.

But we still can use comparison to nazism, can we not?

What was written above the podium during Noem's speech on January 8, 2026 in NYC?

"One of ours - all of yours".

Does the head of DHS even know what it means?

Initially it was the slogan of Francisco Franco's Spanish phalangists. But in 1942, it became the symbol of Lidice massacre.

Lidice was a Czech village destroyed by Nazi forces on June 9–10, 1942. Over 340 residents (192 men, 60 women, 88 children) were murdered or sent to camps in retaliation for the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich, making it the symbol of Nazi atrocities. The slogan "one of ours - all of yours" is usually used in the context of Lidice, less frequently in is related to Franco's fascists.

So why does our DHS Secretary Kristi Noem chose to put such a message on the podium? What is it supposed to mean in the context of American people?

Media Bias Fact Check (MBFC) publishes daily vetted fact checks from verified IFCN-approved sources. Each claim is independently reviewed for accuracy and context.

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Claim: “One of ours, all of yours” is a phrase from Nazi Germany.

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Fact Check: Is the Phrase “One of Ours, All of Yours” a Nazi Germany Slogan?

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Many Snopes readers reached out via social media and email to seek clarification on whether the slogan was authentic and actually originated with the Nazis.

The lectern at the DHS news conference did display the phrase "One of ours, all of yours," as confirmed by photographs from the credible photo repository Getty Imagesand a video from the news conference published by the official White House YouTube channel.

However, we found no evidence confirming that the phrase originated verbatim in Nazi Germany, as social media posts suggested. The origin of the phrase was unclear, but it did not appear to have been used by the Trump administration or other presidential administrations before appearing on the lectern. Online searches for the origin of the phrase returned only results for more social media posts claiming it had roots in the Nazi regime, without providing further evidence. Searches of newspaper archives also found no instances of the Trump administration or other governments using the specific phrase

Unpacking claim that 'one of ours, all of yours' phrase on Noem's podium is Nazi slogan

We found no evidence confirming the phrase appearing on a lectern originated verbatim in Nazi Germany, as social media posts suggested.

www.snopes.com

 

[Sundog]

It easy to imagine the nurse undressing to put on uniform and leaving clothes/things in a locker, isn't it?

I really don't know what the specific rules of VA are, not in the ICU or the floors of course, but given that specifically in VA, some patients brought by EMT may have weapons with them, I think there is a place in the hospital beyond which it is not allowed to proceed with the weapons. But there should be designated places to hold them, realistically. I'd expect them to be kept in lockers or such. But I can ask a doctor who works there. )

What i read is that Alex just finished his shift.

I thought he worked in a VA hospital, which would be a federal building where you can't bring in a firearm. No matter which state the hospital is located, it's still a federal building which is off limits to firearms, IIRC. Maybe he didn't work in a VA hospital, but in a private or state hospital.

JMO.

 

[Charlot123]

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Claimant: Social Media

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Claim: “One of ours, all of yours” is a phrase from Nazi Germany.

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Rating: FALSE

Fact Check: Is the Phrase “One of Ours, All of Yours” a Nazi Germany Slogan?

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Many Snopes readers reached out via social media and email to seek clarification on whether the slogan was authentic and actually originated with the Nazis.

The lectern at the DHS news conference did display the phrase "One of ours, all of yours," as confirmed by photographs from the credible photo repository Getty Imagesand a video from the news conference published by the official White House YouTube channel.

However, we found no evidence confirming that the phrase originated verbatim in Nazi Germany, as social media posts suggested. The origin of the phrase was unclear, but it did not appear to have been used by the Trump administration or other presidential administrations before appearing on the lectern. Online searches for the origin of the phrase returned only results for more social media posts claiming it had roots in the Nazi regime, without providing further evidence. Searches of newspaper archives also found no instances of the Trump administration or other governments using the specific phrase

Unpacking claim that 'one of ours, all of yours' phrase on Noem's podium is Nazi slogan

We found no evidence confirming the phrase appearing on a lectern originated verbatim in Nazi Germany, as social media posts suggested.

www.snopes.com

Do you want a video of Noem speaking and the message being seen well? Or is it about the origin?

Snopes may not help in this situation to a non-European. Chat GPT is also dubious, btw.

I am not saying that the Germans used this phrase as the slogan (they didn't advertise punitive measures, did they? Lidice's fate got known, in whispers, in about three days. And remember how did they "explained" deportation to Auschwitz or crematoria to the victims?).

The phrase itself was coined by Franco's phalangists, and in fact it sounds well only in Spanish, "Uno de los nuestros vale por todos los vuestros". But the context became historically linked to Lidice, and WWII, and you can't untie it now from this sad part of European history.

So if Noem or her assistants "did not know", it is a very strange phrase to be coined in English. If they "heard somewhere", and "didn't understand", then probably one should double-check?

And if they knew that it originated in Spanish, even worse, as how many Latinos have been arrested or deported?

 

[Charlot123]

I thought he worked in a VA hospital, which would be a federal building where you can't bring in a firearm. No matter which state the hospital is located, it's still a federal building which is off limits to firearms, IIRC. Maybe he didn't work in a VA hospital, but in a private or state hospital.

JMO.

Alex was a VA nurse.

Let me check specifically the rules of VA as I know a doctor who works there and is a vet himself.

But: the situation in hospitals are often not that straightforward as sometimes people have a heart attack or a stroke, something critical, on the street. They may be brought into a hospitals with a concealed gun on them. Any hospital, but especially, army vets into VA. Realistically, there must be certain rules of holding owners' guns in such situations, and I assume that the same applies to people working there. I would offer us to find out and not clog the thread with details.

 

[Charlot123]

Since the killing of Alex, one of the lawyers who is representing Jonathon Ross (the ICE agent who killed Renee Good) has dropped out of the Minnesota gubernatorial race ..... another repercussion of the killing of Alex.


"Chris Madel, a Republican candidate for governor of Minnesota and the lawyer representing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officer who fatally shot Renee Macklin Good, has dropped out of the state's gubernatorial race ...

"I cannot support the national Republicans' stated retribution on the citizens of our state, nor can I count myself a member of a party that would do so," Madel said in a nearly 11-minute video posted to X on Monday.

It's the latest rebuke of the Trump administration's handling of the escalating political unrest in the city, just two days after intensive care nurse Alex Pretti was shot and killed by a federal agent during protests over the weekend."

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/26/nx-s1-5688899/chris-madel-minnesota-governor-ice-alex-pretti

Madel's realistic chance of being elected the governor of Minnesota is very low after Pretti's assassination, so I don't believe that he is that indignant with his party. He just wants to jump this train ASAP.

Him taking Ross's case indicates that two weeks ago, or even less, Madel for sure weighed all pros and cons and considered winning the governorship in a blue state a plausible scenario as Ross's attorney. I assume he was in very good relationship with Bovino, and such. You don't get Ross's case unless you have very good relationship with DHS.

And one can precisely guess what he expected to happen.

So, Madel is no Captain Courageous. He is a very practical and flexible politician who knows when to jump the sinking ship.

Applauds for spending thirteen minutes spent on a speech, though.