MN - Alex Pretti dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

[CrimeDawg123]

Where did the term "trained agitators" come from?

It sounds like a translation. "Agitator" has been used for so long in the context of washing machines, that i can't imagine it entering an English-based language in the new meaning.

"Professional agitators" is a term that existed in Russia during the revolution.

Perhaps some other languages have it? Where did it come from?

Trained agitators, seriously? And where does this training take place, Costco parking lots?

 

[Charlot123]

Trained agitators, seriously? And where does this training take place, Costco parking lots?

Starbucks, maybe?

 

[CrimeDawg123]

"Peaceful Protest", Yes. Bringing a gun to a "Peaceful Protest'. No.

He had every legal right to have his gun on his person. Period. End of story.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Starbucks, maybe?

Nothing says terrorist like a double mocha latte.

 

[JennieM]

With permission to post

13h ago

Department of justice fights court order requiring federal agents to preserve evidence in Alex Pretti's death​

Trump administration officials are fighting a court order issued late Saturday that requires federal agents to preserve evidence in Alex Pretti’s death.

The temporary restraining order stemmed from a request from the Minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension (MBCA) and Hennepin county attorney’s office. They alleged that feds had stymied their investigative efforts of Pretti’s death at the hands of federal agents.

Trump’s justice department claimed in court papers that they “fail to establish that they will be irreparably harmed absent a temporary restraining order”.

They claim that federal agents “are already obligated to preserve the evidence at issue here under their own policies”.

They contend that the FBI gathered evidence from the scene of Pretti’s death “using appropriate collection and handling procedures, and that evidence is currently preserved and stored in a secure evidence room at the Minneapolisfield office”.

“The evidence is being preserved; nothing has been destroyed or altered. [Customs and Border Protection] has preserved all relevant body-worn camera footage from the incident and will do so for 75 years.” They also said that ICE was in possession of “limited evidence and follows stringent requirements for the documentation, retention, and accountability of its investigative records and evidence”.

The justice department insists that Minnesota and Minneapolis officials don’t have a right to steer the feds’ evidence-handling procedures, “particularly procedures involving an immigration-enforcement incident”.

A court hearing on the TRO is scheduled for 2pm local time.

Minneapolis mayor says some federal agents will begin to leave amid growing anger over Alex Pretti death – as it happened
Minneapolis mayor says some federal agents will begin to leave amid growing anger over Alex Pretti death – as it happened

 

[seasideForest]

US Holocaust Museum responds after Tim Walz invokes Anne Frank's name, calls exploiting Holocaust 'deeply offensive'​

The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum posted on social media in response to Walz's comments, "Anne Frank was targeted and murdered solely because she was Jewish. Leaders making false equivalencies to her experience for political purposes is never acceptable. Despite tensions in Minneapolis, exploiting the Holocaust is deeply offensive, especially as antisemitism surges."

MSN

While I didn't hear or read Tim Walz' reference to Anne Frank, I hardly think @witchway was exploiting the Holocaust! JMO

I wonder what Anne herself would've thought? I haven't read her diary for a few years. Have you ever read it @Sundog ? I wonder what her father would've thought? Her cousin Buddy I think his name is or was? What would he think of people referring to Anne and her diary in this kind of context? Or the people who helped her hide? What would they have thought? The US Holocaust Museum doesn't have exclusive rights to Anne Frank. Or to her diary. If you're interested, I can make a list of other institutions etc that have rights and/or a vested interest in her legacy. But otherwise I’ll just let my post stand.

 

[Charlot123]

Nothing says terrorist like a double mocha latte.

Donuts are virtually "paid agitators' cells".

 

[southgoldengirl]

It's pretty sad to realize that people believe that the protesters are all paid agitators. That we have fallen so far as a humane society that it's inconceivable to some that ordinary good brave people are willing to fight for human rights that previous generations fought and sacrificed for in the pursuit of a better society.

 

[Amonet]

Madel's realistic chance of being elected the governor of Minnesota is very low after Pretti's assassination, so I don't believe that he is that indignant with his party. He just wants to jump this train ASAP.

Him taking Ross's case indicates that two weeks ago, or even less, Madel for sure weighed all pros and cons and considered winning the governorship in a blue state a plausible scenario as Ross's attorney. I assume he was in very good relationship with Bovino, and such. You don't get Ross's case unless you have very good relationship with DHS.

And one can precisely guess what he expected to happen.

So, Madel is no Captain Courageous. He is a very practical and flexible politician who knows when to jump the sinking ship.

Applauds for spending thirteen minutes spent on a speech, though.

I'm more focused on the "stated retribution on the citizens of our state" part. Where was this stated?? Has it been said explicitly by someone in the administration or is it implied?

On the other hand, even if it's implied, HE seems to be interpreting it that way, and that is a big thing in my mind, though I have no idea who he is, the allegation being supported and said clearly by someone who was running on a Republican ticket is massive.

 

[iamshadow21]

'This is horrifying' - Minneapolis reels from second deadly shooting

Two people have been shot dead by federal agents in the city in recent weeks, leaving many angry and frustrated.

www.bbc.com

 

[JennieM]

The shooting of Alex Pretti was carried out by a federal agent licensed to act with impunity. The US must be rescued from Trump’s authoritarianism

What ever you allow your government to do to others, it will eventually do to you GOD HELP US
‘As Trumpism seeks to impose a new authoritarian reality on the United States, Mr Pretti’s brutal death feels like a moment of reckoning.’ Photograph: Zuma Press Wire/Shutterstock

With impunity, masked agents have acted with lethal and lawless violence in Minneapolis. With the connivance of the White House, their actions have been defended with assertions that most of the country has been able to see are false. In such a dark moment for democracy in the US, a different, decent America must now find ways and means to reassert itself.

The Guardian view on a second ICE killing in Minneapolis: midnight in America | Editorial

Editorial: The shooting of Alex Pretti was carried out by a federal agent licensed to act with impunity. The US must be rescued from Trump’s authoritarianism

www.theguardian.com

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I'm more focused on the "stated retribution on the citizens of our state" part. Where was this stated?? Has it been said explicitly by someone in the administration or is it implied?

On the other hand, even if it's implied, HE seems to be interpreting it that way, and that is a big thing in my mind, though I have no idea who he is, the allegation being supported and said clearly by someone who was running on a Republican ticket is massive.

It was stated by Trump on January 13

"FEAR NOT, GREAT PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA, THE DAY OF RECKONING & RETRIBUTION IS COMING!"

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115888070937502023

 

[SouthAussie]

Madel's realistic chance of being elected the governor of Minnesota is very low after Pretti's assassination, so I don't believe that he is that indignant with his party. He just wants to jump this train ASAP.

Him taking Ross's case indicates that two weeks ago, or even less, Madel for sure weighed all pros and cons and considered winning the governorship in a blue state a plausible scenario as Ross's attorney. I assume he was in very good relationship with Bovino, and such. You don't get Ross's case unless you have very good relationship with DHS.

And one can precisely guess what he expected to happen.

So, Madel is no Captain Courageous. He is a very practical and flexible politician who knows when to jump the sinking ship.

Applauds for spending thirteen minutes spent on a speech, though.

He does say that .... "“National Republicans have made it nearly impossible for a Republican to win a statewide election in Minnesota,"

And he also says .... “At the end of the day, I have to look my daughters in the eye and tell them: ‘I believe I did what was right.’ And I am doing that today.”

Republican ends bid for Minnesota governor, citing ‘unconstitutional’ ICE surge

Chris Madel drops out of race and in video criticizes the ‘federal retribution on the citizens’ of Minnesota

www.theguardian.com

 

[Marantz4250b]

It's pretty sad to realize that people believe that the protesters are all paid agitators. That we have fallen so far as a humane society that it's inconceivable to some that ordinary good brave people are willing to fight for human rights that previous generations fought and sacrificed for in the pursuit of a better society.

It's more than sad, it's frightening.

It's clearly obvious that they aren't paid agitators - where the hell do these people think that someone like Alex Pretti would find the time to take "agitation training" when he's a full time ICU nurse at a veterans hospital? The notion is insane, quite frankly.

For what it's worth, I'm not actually convinced that the people who say these ridiculous things, and repeat the lies that he went armed specifically in order to "massacre" Federal agents, and that he was "brandishing" a gun really actually believe them themselves. I think they are intentionally deluding themselves because they simply cannot believe the truth of the matter and refuse to accept it so need to run up ever more convoluted conspiracy theories to explain it to themselves.

And, even if AP was a trained and paid protester, agitator or whatever you want to call it, that doesn't change the fact that he was murdered at the hands of the state.

 

[Strangeworld]

It's more than sad, it's frightening.

It's clearly obvious that they aren't paid agitators - where the hell do these people think that someone like Alex Pretti would find the time to take "agitation training" when he's a full time ICU nurse at a veterans hospital? The notion is insane, quite frankly.

For what it's worth, I'm not actually convinced that the people who say these ridiculous things, and repeat the lies that he went armed specifically in order to "massacre" Federal agents, and that he was "brandishing" a gun really actually believe them themselves. I think they are intentionally deluding themselves because they simply cannot believe the truth of the matter and refuse to accept it so need to run up ever more convoluted conspiracy theories to explain it to themselves.

And, even if AP was a trained and paid protester, agitator or whatever you want to call it, that doesn't change the fact that he was murdered at the hands of the state.

Well said.

And I can't help but think if this didn't involve ICE and was instead an attack by a stranger in the street, would the victim blaming be so blatant?

It's actually more scary that it involved ICE because citizens should be able to hold LE and any government agencies or operations to a higher standard.

 

[Marantz4250b]

Well said.

And I can't help but think if this didn't involve ICE and was instead an attack by a stranger in the street, would the victim blaming be so blatant?

It's actually more scary that it involved ICE because citizens should be able to hold LE and any government agencies or operations to a higher standard.

Indeed. It also plays very badly for all the decent and respectable law enforcement professionals because it erodes trust in them and makes their jobs more dangerous.

Every decent LEO should be calling this what it is. State sanctioned murder.

 

[Amonet]

It was stated by Trump on January 13

"FEAR NOT, GREAT PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA, THE DAY OF RECKONING & RETRIBUTION IS COMING!"

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115888070937502023

Thank you. I had no idea.

Those are some very loaded words he chose.

 

[Charlot123]

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5707439-trump-administration-wins-appeal/

8th Circuit Court of Appeals court declines to reimpose restrictions on agents at Minnesota protests

 

[iamshadow21]

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5707439-trump-administration-wins-appeal/

8th Circuit Court of Appeals court declines to reimpose restrictions on agents at Minnesota protests

They never stopped using the chemicals in the first place, so it basically changes nothing for the people on the streets.

MOO

 

[Charlot123]

I'm more focused on the "stated retribution on the citizens of our state" part. Where was this stated?? Has it been said explicitly by someone in the administration or is it implied?

On the other hand, even if it's implied, HE seems to be interpreting it that way, and that is a big thing in my mind, though I have no idea who he is, the allegation being supported and said clearly by someone who was running on a Republican ticket is massive.

Honestly, he reminds me of a once-GOP-runner for the governor of my state. A very smart man, a centrist version of the GOP. He lost with a tiny margin to my previous governor. Did Madel have the chance in Minnesota? Not after Saturday.

You see, he had to take sides. Now he is against the actions of ICE in Minnesota and he lost the party funding. He can't run his own campaign. Perhaps he'd be a better independent, IMHO.