MN - Alex Pretti dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

[nao]

Moo..are there other countries that deal with their people this way? The things I did not understand was why person was pushed, and then then the spray. Worst thing for me to watch was the guy just bashing him...I don't think that's legal. Hate to see how they treat those they do arrest

 

[iamshadow21]

Moo..are there other countries that deal with their people this way? The things I did not understand was why person was pushed, and then then the spray. Worst thing for me to watch was the guy just bashing him...I don't think that's legal. Hate to see how they treat those they do arrest

There are, but they often don't even pretend to be democratic.

MOO

 

[Yellowbelly]

Protecting neighbors, friends, families & employees

Workers at their neighborhood businesses they frequent

I have interaction with humans at my favorite restaurants, stores or service employees needed in my home

I don’t ask anyone if one is this county legally or not, or assume because of skin color or accent they aren’t citizens but I’d sure help protect them from abuse and tearing from family and community

We live in a multicultural melting pot on this planet and are ALL human beings

This story crossed my radar today. An Eritrean refugee, in the USA entirely legally, is detained at her apartment by ICE in front of her teenage children. Even though one of those children show the ICE agents documents proving that their mother is there legally, they drag her away, shackle her, fly her to Texas, and only then bother to check and realise that she is indeed in America legally. They then chuck her out onto the street and expect her to find her own way back to Minnesota.

And then people wonder why ordinary Minnesotans, including Renee Good and Alex Pretti, organise themselves to try and protect their friends, neighbours and colleagues.

Minnesota Refugees Detained by ICE ‘Had Done Everything Right’

Dozens of refugees with valid status have been sent from Minnesota to Texas to be revetted, prompting a lawsuit. Those released have had to pay their way back.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Greenestdays]

Moo..are there other countries that deal with their people this way? The things I did not understand was why person was pushed, and then then the spray. Worst thing for me to watch was the guy just bashing him...I don't think that's legal. Hate to see how they treat those they do arrest

Sure there are - Russia, Iran, North-Korea, et al.

 

[nao]

Moo... if this major push of ice was in all major cities it would not look so intense. But me ( cannot speak for other people)out side of USA, seems kinda politically personal

 

[Charlot123]

But do they all have warrants signed by a judge? That's a question I'd like a definitive answer to...it's important, according to The Constitution.

And having to carry your birth certificate and/or passport for ID. A regular driver's license just not good enough, not even a Real ID which can get you on a plane and even inside a nuclear facility.

If you don't have ID they're happy with, you get carted away to mostly out of state places for who knows how long. And this is happening to citizens. Wouldn't anybody resist and speak up for themselves or others, especially if they started roughing you or some other unfortunate person up? I certainly would.

I'd say, IMO, until well trained real LE who know that people have rights and respect that show up, it is a humanitarian issue to being very concerned about...as an American. AJMO

On a FB of my friend, a group of US-born FB users was discussing what documents should they get/have. (Not everyone in the country has a passport. People were scared.) In my state, there is an enhanced driver’s license that we got to drive to Canada. It is a valid proof of citizenship which is currently available in five states: MN, MI, WA, NY and VT. Ohio is going to introduce it, too. MOO, the whole country should probably use them.

But tbh, I would be concerned about the need to take passport everywhere. Passports may get lost or stolen.

Profiling is a true problem. How is ICE in Minnesota going to explain this?

Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release

abcnews.go.com

Three of the four natives arrested by ICE in Minnesota have not been yet accounted for.

They are Natives. They can’t be deported. And they are unhoused, and might be sick. Where are they?

With the Natives, we have one more obvious problem. They have dual citizenship: tribal and the US one. Tribal cards I have seen, they are small. Would that be enough, or do Natives have to get passports now?

 

[Charlot123]

Moo..are there other countries that deal with their people this way? The things I did not understand was why person was pushed, and then then the spray. Worst thing for me to watch was the guy just bashing him...I don't think that's legal. Hate to see how they treat those they do arrest

There surely are other countries that treat their citizens this way, there are much worse prisons, there are power-hungry cops and angry or corrupt people from internal security organizations. Everywhere. There is lawlessness in the world.

However, the US seemed to be the beacon of liberty, for many people and for many years.

 

[nao]

Moo...when they were going thru his pockets they were just stuffing it in their pockets. Did they pocket money, if, etc. seems a wrong way to collect evidence

 

[JennieM]

There surely are other countries that treat their citizens this way, there are much worse prisons, there are power-hungry cops and angry or corrupt people from internal security organizations. Everywhere. There is lawlessness in the world.

However, the US seemed to be the beacon of liberty, for many people and for many years.

What you are describing is usually found in countries with oppressive regimes, not in first world developed countries and certainly not in the USA, the land of democracy.

 

[JennieM]

Republicans wrestle with immigration message after Minneapolis backlash​

Public anger forces a new focus​

Republicans wrestle with immigration message after Minneapolis backlash

Some lawmakers are questioning the crackdown as public anger grows over two citizens killed by federal agents.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Charlot123]

Moo... if this major push of ice was in all major cities it would not look so intense. But me ( cannot speak for other people)out side of USA, seems kinda politically personal

It is complicated. It can happen in any blue state, but economy factors in.

Here are “top receivers” and “top donors”

Which states contribute the most and least to federal revenue? | USAFacts

In 2024, Californians paid about $275.6 billion more to the federal government than they received.

usafacts.org

My state is among the “top donors” (it is especially obvious when you compare per capita numbers). So while we, for sure, expect “visits” from ICE, all the more so that we are another “sanctuary state”, perhaps financial aspects play a role.

But if you look at Minnesota, this small state is a top per capita federal donor as well.

So the situation is complex: before the election, blue states who have the money to campaign, and support their candidates, may be a concern for the current government. On the other hand, you can’t treat them too rudely. Likewise, California, which is 6th world economy per se, while LA has seen visits from Mr. Bovino with his crew, had to be reckoned with.

This may explain the situation in Minnesota. It is blue and sanctuary, but also, self-sufficient. This is why the mayor of Minneapolis may use harsh language, and this is why, while ICE is horrible for Minnesota, the situation is sort of a stalemate and everyone prefers to negotiate. When the time comes to approve the budget for ICE, Minnesota’s portion will be much higher than that of Alabama.

From this standpoint, who are the “besties”? Texas and Florida, methinks. They toe the party line and contribute to the budget. And Texas has deported more than any other state in the country. But this is why the voice of Senator Ted Cruz, unhappy with NHS now, is heard very well.

JMO, of course.

 

[JennieM]

One of Alex Pretti's final ICU patients says terrorism accusations "broke my heart"​

By Susan-Elizabeth Littlefield

[…]

And as his ICU co-workers grieve, so do his patients, like Marta Crownheart.

"I had a real bad day and he sat in my room for a little over 20 minutes, holding my hand, talking to me, letting me know things were gonna be OK," Crownheart said. "He prayed with me and let me know I was gonna be OK." […] "And when Alex found out I didn't have a stroke, he came right away and let me know that I didn't, and he calmed me and he treated me like I was his only patient," she said. "And I knew I wasn't, and he treated every vet like they were his only patient."

[…]

"I think that hurts worse than anything, calling him a domestic terrorist. I think that hurt worse than anything," she said. "It just broke my heart to see what they did to him, and he did not deserve it."

[…]

One of Alex Pretti's final ICU patients says terrorism accusations "broke my heart"

Alex Pretti, the man fatally shot Saturday by Border Patrol officers, was a nurse at the Minneapolis VA hospital, where he worked with the sickest of the sick in the ICU.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Hexe]

Trump no longer supports the Second Amendment. moo

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016252580322803993

Someone should tell Mr Trump that his likes and dislikes are not the law. The US constitution is and it says Alex Pretti had the right to carry.

 

[Lilibet]

US Holocaust Museum responds after Tim Walz invokes Anne Frank's name, calls exploiting Holocaust 'deeply offensive'​

The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum posted on social media in response to Walz's comments, "Anne Frank was targeted and murdered solely because she was Jewish. Leaders making false equivalencies to her experience for political purposes is never acceptable. Despite tensions in Minneapolis, exploiting the Holocaust is deeply offensive, especially as antisemitism surges."

MSN

I have tremendous respect for the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum. My husband and I spent an entire afternoon there in 2018. We have a spiritual connection to several thousand non-Jewish victims of the Holocaust, and the museum staff was kind enough to provide us with several pages listing exhibits about these victims. The entire experience was profound and deeply unsettling.

That being said, I think the only comparison Tim Walz made between Minnesota children and Anne Frank was the fact that they were hiding, as she was. Tim Walz never mentioned Anne’s death in the concentration camp in connection to these frightened Minnesota children AFAIK. He did not “exploit the Holocaust” IMO. Not just unauthorized brown immigrant children have reason to be frightened and stay hidden in their homes, but any brown child who is a citizen too, as we have already seen what has happened to some.

What people seem to forget is that the initial use of concentration camps starting in 1933 was for political prisoners (some Jews included)…anyone Hitler felt was a threat. The large-scale incarceration of Jews began much later, after Kristallnacht in 1938, increasing during WWII. Anne Frank went into hiding in 1942. If you read the linked timeline, you will see that the rights of Jews diminished gradually but quickly during the 1930’s. Holocaust Timeline: 1933 to 1945 | St. Louis Holocaust Museum

My point is that Tim Walz was not comparing Minnesota children hiding to Anne Frank being murdered in a concentration camp. He was pointing to one aspect of the current policies…brown children hiding in their homes like Anne Frank did. But keep in mind that we are seeing rights being ignored that we have always taken for granted, such as due process. The loss of rights is moving rapidly and we will likely see what has happened in Minnesota be repeated and applied to other “enemies” of the government elsewhere. Don’t say history (and I) didn’t warn you.

 

[JennieM]

Woman in pink jacket who filmed fatal shooting of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis says Feds have NOT reached out​

Carlson says she now has no faith in the federal investigation into Pretti's death.

'I have faith in various representatives throughout our country who are trying to do the right thing and make sure justice [is served], I have faith in our local government in Minnesota, I think they are trying to make sure to protect us and investigate it thoroughly,' she told Cooper.

'But [the federal government] is trying to block that from happening,' she claimed. 'They wouldn't even let the investigative team come to the crime scene.'

'I mean, their goal is to protect themselves and to spin stories,' she argued.

Stella Carlson spoke out for the first time about what she witnessed at around 9am on Saturday in an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooperon Tuesday

Carlson was dubbed the 'pink coat lady' online after she was caught on camera filming the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis

Key witness says Feds have NOT asked her about Alex Pretti shooting

Stella Carlson, the woman who was caught on camera filming the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti, 37, in Minneapolis, has said federal agents have not yet reached out to her.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[nao]

Moo...I listen to Texas police scanners. They chase cows and cars..never boring. Lots of shootings n such. Ice is hanging around the warming centers. The local LE do not like that.... record everything to do with ice was mentioned

 

[Inthedetails]

‘An ICE agent has been filmed threatening a member of the public, in the latest example of a federal officer, shall we say, declining to de-escalate a situation.’

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/raise-your-voice-ill-erase-your-voice-ice-agents-threat/video/6277bb0f5d26f1fad63f460e31bd2fb9

They treat the public, their fellow citizens, as the enemy at war.

They do not have authority to tell others not to use their voice or raise their voice.

jmopinion

 

[Inthedetails]

This story crossed my radar today. An Eritrean refugee, in the USA entirely legally, is detained at her apartment by ICE in front of her teenage children. Even though one of those children show the ICE agents documents proving that their mother is there legally, they drag her away, shackle her, fly her to Texas, and only then bother to check and realise that she is indeed in America legally. They then chuck her out onto the street and expect her to find her own way back to Minnesota.

And then people wonder why ordinary Minnesotans, including Renee Good and Alex Pretti, organise themselves to try and protect their friends, neighbours and colleagues.

Minnesota Refugees Detained by ICE ‘Had Done Everything Right’

Dozens of refugees with valid status have been sent from Minnesota to Texas to be revetted, prompting a lawsuit. Those released have had to pay their way back.

www.nytimes.com

Yes, this is happening. What you describe is not an isolated incident.

jmopinion

 

[nao]

They treat the public, their fellow citizens, as the enemy at war.

They do not have authority to tell others not to use their voice or raise their voice.

jmopinion

Moo..that is the problem, they are being trained to see the public as the enemy . That is sad.

 

[nao]

Moo..take away their masks. They will not be so wild
Also the reason ice films is for facial identification. That is politically and personaly creepy to my mind..moo