The irony of make America great again.They're among us, but few are listening, can't be bothered, bigger things to do such as keep our American as it was, as it WAS. IMO
The irony of make America great again.They're among us, but few are listening, can't be bothered, bigger things to do such as keep our American as it was, as it WAS. IMO
Ok, well that is pretty offensive. But that is ok. I'll just end it at that.omg they're not necessarily supporting the amendment, they're supporting equality under the Constitution. How can you not comprehend this? You're an attorney aren't you? Critical thinking in the US is an endangered species.
Did the agents walk towards Alex and the two ladies, or were the three walking towards the agents? Did an agent shove one of the ladies to the ground, or were the ladies or Alex physically pushing the agents?Assault does not require physical contact. What matters is whether someone’s actions create a reasonable fear of imminent harm. When people deliberately close distance, step into an agents path, or force a moment where the agent must stop, or push through, that behavior is no longer passive protest. It is perceived as obstruction and a safety risk to the agent.
Oh right we can't point out the hypocrisy of the administration.I do believe I have had posts deleted--when bringing up Kyle.
However, he is one of the great big elephants in the room
Yes, 100 % with you. It's simply unfathomable as an outsider living in a democratic country where such an obvious, reckless and lawless killing would be being prosecuted by now. But It's clear to me that many, many Americans - the majority IMO - are equally devastated and horrified by this killing and that of Renee Good last week. I support all of those people, their opinions and the steps being taken by various third parties to try and address these travesties. MooAs an European this is beyond understandable for me . You can’t have police to execute people on the streets. He was clearly on the ground at that time surrounded by what few ICE . They could have tackled him down instead of executing him for what? It is just so wrong.
It's a justification of a mind. They were leaning right over his prone body, in a jacket. ALLL those BIG, armed up, bundled up ....people. THEN the shots went into his back. THEM being afraid and confused is a disgusting and absurd narrative to believe, so be those that justify their mentality of such thoughts. The many close ups, slowed down show exactly what some do not want to see, why is that, who are those, who are they in life, have others around them at their jobs, communities, CHURCHES, see them for who they are when they voice that narrative now?? I hope so and back far away. IMOIt’s reasonable to believe that the agents didn’t know that a firearm was in possession. I think Tricia’s friend makes a good point about the possibility of a second weapon, something I hadn’t thought about. I’m sure they’re trained for that.
That’s far more plausible than believing multiple agents deliberately set out to kill a protester for helping a woman. imo
Yes, 100 % with you. It's simply unfathomable as an outsider living in a democratic country where such an obvious, reckless and lawless killing would be being prosecuted by now. But It's clear to me that many, many Americans - the majority IMO - are equally devastated and horrified by this killing and that of Renee Good last week. I support all of those people, their opinions and the steps being taken by various third parties to try and address these travesties. Moo
I agree with you and I’m actually surprised they didn’t arrest him during this incident, since he purposely caused damage to the officers car. He could have definitely been legally arrested for that.I've justed watched the video below on the main BBC Ten O'Clock News on BBC1.
Ironically, if Alex Pretti had been arrested for this, he'd still be alive.
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I DON'T agree with my friend at all. This is his opinion. Wouldn't it be better to show factual evidence to help people change their minds.No, no, a thousand times NO! Ban me if you want to (IDK) or put me on TO. I CANNOT agree with this!
Hi statt#1Thank you.
I've said similar previously in this thread, and have been lambasted for it.
Factual evidence regarding which part?I DON'T agree with my friend at all. This is his opinion. Wouldn't it be better to show factual evidence to help people change their minds.
Hi statt#1
I think you may confuse lambasting with a lot of posters disagreeing with you. When you have an opinion that is not shared by the majority, you have to be prepared to defend it. If you feel a poster is rude and it is directed at you, please hit the report button. However, if you get a lot of posts, one after the other, challenging your opinion, that is to be expected in a case like this.
Tricia
Is she talking about 26 not 16 , arrests made yesterday by the Mapke Grove PD? Protesters were outside of a suites place where ICE are staying and property damage and escalating violence changed the situation, so police rightly stepped in?
I've seen what she considered to be assaultsadly we all have
The big ugly dog whistle. The insecure, the ones with a great reason to justify their hate and fear of 'others', the ones with a chip on their shoulder, the blamers, ALLL CAME RUNNING, 'bought the hats'.. so 'cool'. Lots voted for the first time in their lives and were told to how by the first dog whistle from the group united to bring USA down. IMOThe irony of make America great again.
We know that he had a previous run in with ICE during which he got a broken rib. Could this be a video of that incident?I agree with you and I’m actually surprised they didn’t arrest him during this incident, since he purposely caused damage to the officers car. He could have definitely been legally arrested for that.
I know your reply wasn't to me, but I'm genuinely confused - isn't the video factual evidence enough?I DON'T agree with my friend at all. This is his opinion. Wouldn't it be better to show factual evidence to help people change their minds.
In my opinion, yes, the video evidence is factual enough. Again, I do not agree with my friend.I know your reply wasn't to me, but I'm genuinely confused - isn't the video factual evidence enough?
I can't see how anyone can watch that and not see a completely unjustified killing. Unless it's not what the person wants to see.
How would that explain TEN shots?
jmo
They had him pinned down to the ground. All they needed to do and should have been trained to do, was to search him properly. Not to shot hin ten times in the back.It’s reasonable to believe that the agents didn’t know that a firearm was in possession. I think Tricia’s friend makes a good point about the possibility of a second weapon, something I hadn’t thought about. I’m sure they’re trained for that.
This link has 2 court affidavits from witnesses from the scene at the time of the shooting. Your friend can review these if they would like.In my opinion, yes, the video evidence is factual enough. Again, I do not agree with my friend.
However, there are people who do not believe the video is enough. That's why we are here. To discuss the evidence in a rational and calm way. It's what we do on Websleuths.
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