MN - Alex Pretti dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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What real brains? What exactly are you suggesting?
Orgainzers. The ones who have put in their time and skills.
 
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I think I portrayed that in my post and tried to relate AP to the celebrated armed heroes intruding on the Capital and asked is AP not like them hoping to build a bridge of thought.
None of the January 06 protesters are heroes to me,
 
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His parents were worried about him. They told him not to engage or do anything stupid. I wonder if this conversation came after the first encounter. imo

The parents were aware that Pretti planned to protest and had discussed it with him in a previous conversation.

“We had this discussion with him two weeks ago or so, you know, that go ahead and protest, but do not engage, do not do anything stupid, basically,” Michael told the AP.



Pitiful they were fearing our own government’s agent’s lashing out in anger and violence.


all imo
 
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People keep saying Alex was “at a protest,” and that’s just not accurate. This wasn’t some planned protest that Alex decided to attend that morning. ICE showed up in a neighborhood and people reacted.

There are Signal chats where neighbors share when they see ICE around. It’s a heads-up to let people know ICE is in the area so they can decide what to do. For a lot of people, that means coming out to document what’s happening. Phones out. Watching. Making sure there’s a record.

I don't know if Alex was in one of these group chats or not, I am just trying to clarify that he wasn't there for an organized protest that day.
 
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There is video from an earlier protest (days before Alex was killed) showing him yelling at agents, spitting toward them, and damaging a federal vehicle. If that’s accurate, then yes — that behavior could have led to an arrest. I don't understand why Alex was not arrested, honestly.

But that does NOT justify what happened later. The shooting is a completely different situation. What Alex did 11 days ago DOES NOT justify his shooting.

The shooting was a completely separate incident.

From what I see in the footage from the day Alex was killed, he was on the ground, on his stomach, and being physically restrained by multiple ICE agents when the shots were fired. His legally carried weapon had already been removed. Even if agents believed he might have had another weapon, he was in no position to reach it.

As I understand law-enforcement use-of-force standards, deadly force is only justified if someone poses an immediate threat to officers or the public.

Yes, the agents may have been in fear for their lives. But that’s exactly when training is supposed to kick in. Officers are trained to assess a situation and control it without killing someone who is already on the ground and restrained — even in high-stress moments.

So my question is this:
Even if Alex had another weapon on him, can everyone see what I’m seeing — that at the moment shots were fired, he appeared to be fully restrained and incapacitated?
 
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Pitiful they were fearing our own government’s agent’s lashing out in anger and violence.


all imo
I think they knew about the previous altercation. imo
 
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There is video from an earlier protest (days before Alex was killed) showing him yelling at agents, spitting toward them, and damaging a federal vehicle. If that’s accurate, then yes — that behavior could have led to an arrest. I don't understand why Alex was not arrested, honestly.

But that does NOT justify what happened later. The shooting is a completely different situation. What Alex did 11 days ago DOES NOT justify his shooting.

The shooting was a completely separate incident.

From what I see in the footage from the day Alex was killed, he was on the ground, on his stomach, and being physically restrained by multiple ICE agents when the shots were fired. His legally carried weapon had already been removed. Even if agents believed he might have had another weapon, he was in no position to reach it.

As I understand law-enforcement use-of-force standards, deadly force is only justified if someone poses an immediate threat to officers or the public.

Yes, the agents may have been in fear for their lives. But that’s exactly when training is supposed to kick in. Officers are trained to assess a situation and control it without killing someone who is already on the ground and restrained — even in high-stress moments.

So my question is this:
Even if Alex had another weapon on him, can everyone see what I’m seeing — that at the moment shots were fired, he appeared to be fully restrained and incapacitated?
I think many of us see exactly what you are seeing.
 
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still waiting for someone to explain to me with specificity in what ways they feel AP interfered impeded escalated provoked or assaulted the agents who ultimately killed him on January 24, 2026. I don't mean his mere presence in the general vicinity of a stalled targeted operation, I don't mean his having a legal firearm on him. I mean show me what actions he took in those moments that constitutes the BBM.
And, my personal favorite, inserted himself into the situation.
 
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Possibly, possibly.

Then again, could the real brains behind these protests be manipulating the gulliable into risking their lives ala:

- These protests need to go to the next level. Hey- legally arm yourself. Maybe start spitting at officers. When that does not get a reaction, kick out the tail light of the car. Eventually..... something might happen....

People have the right to peacefully protest in support of their First Amendment rights guaranteed to them by the Constitution on the streets of their own city.

I cannot tell them what to do. I don’t live in such cold and don’t see ICE on my streets.
The footage was released by The News Movement, an independent media company. The release of the footage has nothing to do with federal officers.

"A newly surfaced video shows a confrontation between US federal law enforcement agents and Alex Pretti, the man who was shot and killed by Border Patrol agents last Saturday. The footage shows Pretti yelling at the officers and kicking out a car's taillight. The footage was filmed 11 days before his death.

The BBC has verified the footage. The footage was recorded by the media company: The News Movement (TNM). TNM reported that shortly after 10:00 a.m. that day, it received a tip about officers blocking the road at an intersection in Minneapolis."


Thank you for letting me know. OK, it is an official photo then.

But still - a photo of Mr. Alex Pretti, a civilian kicking a car a week ago has nothing to do with Mr. Pretty being attacked and executed by the unnamed border patrol agents led into Minneapolis by Greg Bovino, whose “commander at large of the Border Patrol” rank had no official statutory basis with DHS.
 
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It is my opinion that the video from the week before could very well play in to a potential legal case as per Barnes v. Felix referenced and linked in an earlier post of mine.

Other potential evidence that may be argued could include the heightened rhetoric from public figures, prior attacks on ICE agents in Minneapolis, involved agents awareness of his interactions with ICE, etc.

 
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I think they knew about the previous altercation. imo
Yes, that's very likely, especially if he had a broken or bruised rib as some accounts have said, after his altercation with federal immigration enforcement officers following his spitting at them through their car window and kicking out the taillights of the ICE vehicle and raging in the street.
 
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And, my personal favorite, inserted himself into the situation.
My opinion, he inserted himself when he went to grab the woman who was on the ground. If that's not inserting oneself into a situation I don't know what is. Had he turned and walked away my opinion is he would be alive today.
 
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And not everyone needs the same heroes.

One of my heroes worked her self into a fatal stroke after laboring in a cause she believed in for years. She organized fantastic protests, death threats did not phase her.

But.... she clearly would not be a hero to all.

Cryptic, your hero is my hero even if I might disagree with her efforts because she was passionate, involved, dedicated to, I assume, a caring effort based on conviction not prejudice, hate or personal gain and that is who makes our country great.

No one could stop her working herself into a stroke any more than they could keep AP from confronting ICE.

To them it was their duty.


all imo
 
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My opinion, he inserted himself when he went to grab the woman who was on the ground. If that's not inserting oneself into a situation I don't know what is. Had he turned and walked away my opinion is he would be alive today.

As a human, I don’t know how we’re expected to simply stand back and watch what looks like excessive force against another civilian just because the person doing it is a government agent. We aren’t wired to calmly observe apparent abuse and do nothing; in fact, we’re taught to speak up, to intervene, to protect others when something is wrong.

Saying someone “inserted themselves” into the situation ignores that basic human instinct and shifts the focus away from the conduct being questioned.

If the only acceptable response to potential state violence is silence and distance, or death... then we’re not really talking about public safety but about a system that demands obedience over humanity.
 
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Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey has just addressed the US Conference of Mayors at a winter meeting in Washington.

“In Minneapolis, we’ve heard them say they will end this siege when we hand over voter rolls. We’ve seen them invade not just with this occupation, but also with the DOJ being used as a weapon,” Frey said. “They’re investigating me and several other local elected officials not because we’ve done something wrong but because we have exhibited one of the core responsibilities we have as mayors – speaking on behalf of your constituents. I’m going to continue to speak on behalf of my constituents. We won’t be intimidated.”

Frey also told reporters that “Our police officers will do their jobs,” and “They’re not going to do somebody else’s job.” He brushed off Trump’s threat that he was “playing with fire” by not enforcing federal immigration laws.

During his remarks, the mayor said leaders of cities across the country are “on the front lines of a very important battle,” adding “This is not a time to bend our heads in despair out of fear that we may be next.”

He warned: “If we do not speak up, if we do not step out, it will be your city that is next.”

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey addresses the U.S. Conference of Mayors (USCM) 94th Winter Meeting in Washington, DC, 29 January, 2026.

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey addresses the US Conference of Mayors (USCM) 94th Winter Meeting in Washington, DC, 29 January, 2026. Photograph: Annabelle Gordon/Reuters

 
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My opinion, he inserted himself when he went to grab the woman who was on the ground. If that's not inserting oneself into a situation I don't know what is. Had he turned and walked away my opinion is he would be alive today.
My opinion, had the agents ignored Alex and walked away after losing their target, instead of approaching bystanders and pushing them to the ground, he would still be alive today.
 
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My opinion, he inserted himself when he went to grab the woman who was on the ground. If that's not inserting oneself into a situation I don't know what is. Had he turned and walked away my opinion is he would be alive today.
By attempting to assist a woman who had been shoved backward over a curb? Is it your thinking that the woman was being detained or arrested as opposed to simply being assaulted? I am trying to understand how this is being perceived as interference or inserting himself. Was the agent not finished shoving her down?
 
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People keep saying Alex was “at a protest,” and that’s just not accurate. This wasn’t some planned protest that Alex decided to attend that morning. ICE showed up in a neighborhood and people reacted.

There are Signal chats where neighbors share when they see ICE around. It’s a heads-up to let people know ICE is in the area so they can decide what to do. For a lot of people, that means coming out to document what’s happening. Phones out. Watching. Making sure there’s a record.

I don't know if Alex was in one of these group chats or not, I am just trying to clarify that he wasn't as a part of some organized protest that day.
They don't even need to be Signal chats. Even FB has public groups, "ICE at so and so".
 

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