Orgainzers. The ones who have put in their time and skills.What real brains? What exactly are you suggesting?
Orgainzers. The ones who have put in their time and skills.What real brains? What exactly are you suggesting?
None of the January 06 protesters are heroes to me,I think I portrayed that in my post and tried to relate AP to the celebrated armed heroes intruding on the Capital and asked is AP not like them hoping to build a bridge of thought.
His parents were worried about him. They told him not to engage or do anything stupid. I wonder if this conversation came after the first encounter. imo
The parents were aware that Pretti planned to protest and had discussed it with him in a previous conversation.
“We had this discussion with him two weeks ago or so, you know, that go ahead and protest, but do not engage, do not do anything stupid, basically,” Michael told the AP.
A competitive bicycle racer who lavished care on his new Audi, Pretti had also been deeply attached to his dog, who died about a year ago.
I think they knew about the previous altercation. imoPitiful they were fearing our own government’s agent’s lashing out in anger and violence.
all imo
I think many of us see exactly what you are seeing.There is video from an earlier protest (days before Alex was killed) showing him yelling at agents, spitting toward them, and damaging a federal vehicle. If that’s accurate, then yes — that behavior could have led to an arrest. I don't understand why Alex was not arrested, honestly.
But that does NOT justify what happened later. The shooting is a completely different situation. What Alex did 11 days ago DOES NOT justify his shooting.
The shooting was a completely separate incident.
From what I see in the footage from the day Alex was killed, he was on the ground, on his stomach, and being physically restrained by multiple ICE agents when the shots were fired. His legally carried weapon had already been removed. Even if agents believed he might have had another weapon, he was in no position to reach it.
As I understand law-enforcement use-of-force standards, deadly force is only justified if someone poses an immediate threat to officers or the public.
Yes, the agents may have been in fear for their lives. But that’s exactly when training is supposed to kick in. Officers are trained to assess a situation and control it without killing someone who is already on the ground and restrained — even in high-stress moments.
So my question is this:
Even if Alex had another weapon on him, can everyone see what I’m seeing — that at the moment shots were fired, he appeared to be fully restrained and incapacitated?
I think they knew about the previous altercation. imo
And, my personal favorite, inserted himself into the situation.still waiting for someone to explain to me with specificity in what ways they feel AP interfered impeded escalated provoked or assaulted the agents who ultimately killed him on January 24, 2026. I don't mean his mere presence in the general vicinity of a stalled targeted operation, I don't mean his having a legal firearm on him. I mean show me what actions he took in those moments that constitutes the BBM.
Possibly, possibly.
Then again, could the real brains behind these protests be manipulating the gulliable into risking their lives ala:
- These protests need to go to the next level. Hey- legally arm yourself. Maybe start spitting at officers. When that does not get a reaction, kick out the tail light of the car. Eventually..... something might happen....
The footage was released by The News Movement, an independent media company. The release of the footage has nothing to do with federal officers.
"A newly surfaced video shows a confrontation between US federal law enforcement agents and Alex Pretti, the man who was shot and killed by Border Patrol agents last Saturday. The footage shows Pretti yelling at the officers and kicking out a car's taillight. The footage was filmed 11 days before his death.
The BBC has verified the footage. The footage was recorded by the media company: The News Movement (TNM). TNM reported that shortly after 10:00 a.m. that day, it received a tip about officers blocking the road at an intersection in Minneapolis."
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Beelden opgedoken van eerdere confrontatie tussen Alex Pretti en agenten, dagen voor dood
Op de beelden is te zien hoe Pretti schreeuwt naar de agenten en een achterlicht van een auto kapot trapt.nos.nl
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Yes, that's very likely, especially if he had a broken or bruised rib as some accounts have said, after his altercation with federal immigration enforcement officers following his spitting at them through their car window and kicking out the taillights of the ICE vehicle and raging in the street.I think they knew about the previous altercation. imo
My opinion, he inserted himself when he went to grab the woman who was on the ground. If that's not inserting oneself into a situation I don't know what is. Had he turned and walked away my opinion is he would be alive today.And, my personal favorite, inserted himself into the situation.
And not everyone needs the same heroes.
One of my heroes worked her self into a fatal stroke after laboring in a cause she believed in for years. She organized fantastic protests, death threats did not phase her.
But.... she clearly would not be a hero to all.
My opinion, he inserted himself when he went to grab the woman who was on the ground. If that's not inserting oneself into a situation I don't know what is. Had he turned and walked away my opinion is he would be alive today.
My opinion, had the agents ignored Alex and walked away after losing their target, instead of approaching bystanders and pushing them to the ground, he would still be alive today.My opinion, he inserted himself when he went to grab the woman who was on the ground. If that's not inserting oneself into a situation I don't know what is. Had he turned and walked away my opinion is he would be alive today.
By attempting to assist a woman who had been shoved backward over a curb? Is it your thinking that the woman was being detained or arrested as opposed to simply being assaulted? I am trying to understand how this is being perceived as interference or inserting himself. Was the agent not finished shoving her down?My opinion, he inserted himself when he went to grab the woman who was on the ground. If that's not inserting oneself into a situation I don't know what is. Had he turned and walked away my opinion is he would be alive today.