He looked pretty restrained……Having his hands flat on the ground does not mean he was pinned or restrained. Once officers heard the call gun, gun, gun, events unfortunately escalated. imo
He looked pretty restrained……Having his hands flat on the ground does not mean he was pinned or restrained. Once officers heard the call gun, gun, gun, events unfortunately escalated. imo
Unfortunately? If he had both hands flat on the ground, then it was vidible he did not have a gun in them. So if the agents panicked and started shooting blindly, which would mean they were both egregiously incompetent and unsuited for their job.Having his hands flat on the ground does not mean he was pinned or restrained. Once officers heard the call gun, gun, gun, events unfortunately escalated. imo
No gun in his hands. Period. IMOUnfortunately? If he had both hands flat on the ground, then it was vidible he did not have a gun in them. So if the agents panicked and started shooting blindly, which would mean they were both egregiously incompetent and unsuited for their job.
So that's your theory here? Seven men uncapable to restrain one dude who got pepper sprayed and whacked with the canister, two of them so nervous they start to shoot in that melee because someone yelled "gun"?
That's... That's not how trained, professional LE officers should ever behave.
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Having his hands flat on the ground does not mean he was pinned or restrained. Once officers heard the call gun, gun, gun, events unfortunately escalated. imo
And IMO, the officer who first shot Alex, watched the officer in the green hoodie take Alex’s gun from his waistband. They were standing directly next to each other. So he knew at that point Alex was being disarmed.No gun in his hands. Period. IMO
Yes he did. Murdered him because he could. IMOAnd IMO, the officer who first shot Alex, watched the officer in the green hoodie take Alex’s gun from his waistband. They were standing directly next to each other. So he knew at that point Alex was being disarmed.
Earlier on, I likened it to a giant Jenga game: if one tiny piece is allowed to fall, it all falls down. They can't have that. They wouldn't know how to handle it.Strictly in my personal opinion; people who vociferously supported the current administration into power, and who strictly adhere to its teachings, seem to be simply incapable of accepting when the regime stops playing by the normal rules of human decency. They seem to scrabble around for any excuse as to why something was justified and claim certain things as facts when they clearly and obviously are not.
The statement that AP approached ICE officers with a gun is disingenuous at best. The statement gives the impression that the gun was visible and that his intention was to make it known that he had a gun.
The statement that he "brandished" his firearm was, and will always be, an outright lie. He did nothing of the sort and it is obvious from every video that he did not.
The statement that he intended to "massacre" Federal Agents is also clearly a lie. If he wanted to do that he would just have started shooting.
The statement that he was a "domestic terrorist" is also obviously a lie. He was nothing of the sort.
For the record; I don't really believe that some people actually believe that the video shows something different to what it factually shows. It's no different to all the other daft conspiracy theories, in that people just cannot accept that something has happened, usually something which absolutely rocks their belief system, so have to invent ridiculous rubbish to try to deny it to themselves.
All My Own Opinion, obvs.
That's obvious. I was just pointing out that with his hands on the ground it was visible to the agents he was not brandishing a gun. Unless they weren't looking and just shot blindly. Which would be pretty much horrible.No gun in his hands. Period. IMO
Yes, I was confirming for some that may not of watched any close up videos and def. confirming your comment as true. IMOThat's obvious. I was just pointing out that with his hands on the ground it was visible to the agents he was not brandishing a gun. Unless they weren't looking and just shot blindly. Which would be pretty much horrible.
Strictly in my personal opinion; people who vociferously supported the current administration into power, and who strictly adhere to its teachings, seem to be simply incapable of accepting when the regime stops playing by the normal rules of human decency. They seem to scrabble around for any excuse as to why something was justified and claim certain things as facts when they clearly and obviously are not.
The statement that AP approached ICE officers with a gun is disingenuous at best. The statement gives the impression that the gun was visible and that his intention was to make it known that he had a gun.
The statement that he "brandished" his firearm was, and will always be, an outright lie. He did nothing of the sort and it is obvious from every video that he did not.
The statement that he intended to "massacre" Federal Agents is also clearly a lie. If he wanted to do that he would just have started shooting.
The statement that he was a "domestic terrorist" is also obviously a lie. He was nothing of the sort.
For the record; I don't really believe that some people actually believe that the video shows something different to what it factually shows. It's no different to all the other daft conspiracy theories, in that people just cannot accept that something has happened, usually something which absolutely rocks their belief system, so have to invent ridiculous rubbish to try to deny it to themselves.
All My Own Opinion, obvs.
Unfortunately, I think most have watched and still refuse to accept the truth. I've never seen anything like it. That blind loyalty couldn't be any more misplaced. jmoYes, I was confirming for some that may not of watched any close up videos and def. confirming your comment as true. IMO
what he was doing, was purposefully bringing a gun to a dangerous fed op repeatedly, and provoking and inviting harm onto himself, because he felt a sense of martyrdom. he rehearsed violating laws and putting the public in danger, until he finally got what he wanted.
Unfortunately, I think most have watched and still refuse to accept the truth. I've never seen anything like it. That blind loyalty couldn't be any more misplaced.
Well, with seven men on top of you then you're definitely "pinned and restrained"!Having his hands flat on the ground does not mean he was pinned or restrained. Once officers heard the call gun, gun, gun, events unfortunately escalated. imo
That's how totalitary system works. Arresting people they dislike, because they can. As Andrey Wyshynski, infamous Soviet prosecutor said "give me a man and I'll find a law to lock him".
Yes. He was 100% restrained and incapable doing anything those agents didn't want him to do.He looked pretty restrained……
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That goes for everyone, btw. Myself included.
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thank you for clearing that up for me. I understand completelyHi @paulegigs
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Unfortunately, I think most have watched and still refuse to accept the truth. I've never seen anything like it. That blind loyalty couldn't be any more misplaced.
Funny how disagreement is framed as “blind loyalty”. Maybe it’s not the truth being rejected, just your version of it. imoUnfortunately, I think most have watched and still refuse to accept the truth. I've never seen anything like it. That blind loyalty couldn't be any more misplaced.
Honestly, it's like some weird religious cult that cannot be questioned by its adherents.