GUILTY MN - Barway Collins, 10, Crystal, 18 March 2015 #1

Donjeta · Apr 14, 2015

TC_MN said:
This will make it make more sense:http://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/PierreCollinsCriminalComplaint.pdf

Wait what? He went to the dump site in the morning before Barway disappeared?

How is that not premeditated murder?

Inthedetails · Apr 14, 2015

Donjeta said:
Wait what? He went to the dump site in the morning before Barway disappeared?

How is that not premeditated murder?

Only the grand jury can indict pre-meditated murder. I think that will be the next step. (See above - someone posted this above, from the press conference.)

Donjeta · Apr 14, 2015

Smith said he visited Pierre Collins in jail and said when Pierre saw him, "tears ran down his face." Smith said Pierre continues to say he's innocent and is "excited for his day in court."

http://www.kare11.com/story/news/cr...inst-father-in-barway-collins-death/25763913/

Excited seems an odd word to use. I'd expect that a sociopath reveling in the attention might be excited about court but surely an innocently charged grieving father would be somewhat anxious?

Newme2 · Apr 14, 2015

So. If PC was in the apartment at the time that Barway got off the bus, then who was he with in the car park until PC came down?

Did somebody contact PC via his phone and tell him Barway was home? The 'uncle' maybe?

Or was it a fluke, in that PC thought Barway should be there by now and headed downstairs to cut him off?

moo
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Donjeta · Apr 14, 2015

Newme2 said:
So. If PC was in the apartment at the time that Barway got off the bus, then who was he with in the car park until PC came down?

Did somebody contact PC via his phone and tell him Barway was home? The 'uncle' maybe?

Or was it a fluke, in that PC thought Barway should be there by now and headed downstairs to cut him off?

moo
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Is the parking lot or the street the van was coming from visible from their apartment? Pierre might have seen from the windows. Barway was there 6-7 minutes.

The affidavit says that the victim was standing next to the Jetta and a couple of minutes later he was peering in the windows of the building.
I think it sounds like Barway was waiting. Pierre might have told him to wait outside and they'd go somewhere fun.

MinnesotaMary · Apr 14, 2015

Group, there is a private FB_ _ k group you can click 'request to join' - it's called justiceforbarway. Very interesting. Just joined. The police believe Pierre Collins murdered the child all alone. One woman said she recalls searching earlier where the child was eventually found, and she saw duct tape on the ground there and thought it suspicious at the time, but apparently not enough to report. Also, the person who actually first found the little child's murdered body said it was pretty much covered in duct tape - I will be interested to learn exactly how little Barway was wrapped, and wonder about cause of death, want to see and read autopsy report, etc. I can only guess a strangulation 'from behind' as the way the murderer did it. So awful about little Barway having his ankles wrapped in duct tape, for instance, and torso - must have been done to make the murdered child 'like a package', to then be tossed into the cistern/drainage water round metal 'pool'.

Newme2 · Apr 14, 2015

603pm - 624pm.

Where is PC during this time?

Is this enough time for him to rush to the river, check that Barway is not visible, and rush back home?
Or did he use this time to dump the backpack?

moo

MinnesotaMary · Apr 14, 2015

MUGSHOT IS RELEASED NOW:

Pierre Collins

http://www.kttc.com/story/28799720/2015/04/14/charges-to-be-announced-against-father-of-crystal-boy

MinnesotaMary · Apr 14, 2015

BAIL IS SET AT $2 MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH SEEMS LOW TO ME, AND THIS ARTICLE SAYS THERE IS COURT TOMORROW, WEDNESDAY, 1PM. This must be where Mr. Collins make his plea of innocence....
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/04/14/charges-expected-against-father-in-barway-collins-death/ Wondering if TC_MN can attend !

nothingnew · Apr 14, 2015

With the amount of duct tape used maybe they can get some usable prints.

mpnola · Apr 14, 2015

I am so scared to see that he was bound and thrown in alive. So scared. Hope I'm way off.

Damarna · Apr 14, 2015

http://www.kare11.com/story/news/cr...inst-father-in-barway-collins-death/25763913/

Per the timeline it indicates PC was probably inside his car wgen Barway got off the bus.

Inthedetails · Apr 14, 2015

mpnola said:
I am so scared to see that he was bound and thrown in alive. So scared. Hope I'm way off.

I'm afraid of that too, but am remaining hopeful that COD will show anything other than drowning. Please.

tlcya · Apr 14, 2015

Slow down please folks. Can someone catch me up on the day's events in this case? If this duct tape business comes from FB group page then it is rumor and cannot be discussed.

If it is in the Main Stream Media can someone please link to that? Thank you.

Inthedetails · Apr 14, 2015

tlcya said:
Slow down please folks. Can someone catch me up on the day's events in this case? If this duct tape business comes from FB group page then it is rumor and cannot be discussed.

If it is in the Main Stream Media can someone please link to that? Thank you.

It's official, from Hennepin County Statement of Probable Cause:

http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/1newpierre041515.pdf

tlcya · Apr 14, 2015

where exactly, page and paragraph is this info about the body being bound in duct tape and a searcher finding duct tape days prior to the body being found and so forth? I am missing it. The probable cause statement is obviously open to discussion but I seem to be missing all that info about duct tape etc. Could just be that I am very tired. TIA

Inthedetails · Apr 14, 2015

tlcya said:
where exactly, page and paragraph is this info about the body being bound in duct tape and a searcher finding duct tape days prior to the body being found and so forth? I am missing it. The probable cause statement is obviously open to discussion but I seem to be missing all that info about duct tape etc. Could just be that I am very tired. TIA

First page of the Statement, last two sentences of the first full paragraph:

"His feet were bound together with duct tape. A piece of duct tape was wrapped around his torso."

http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/1newpierre041515.pdf

tlcya · Apr 14, 2015

found it. Thanks guys. The FB group is off limits. The rest is in

Inthedetails · Apr 14, 2015

Damarna said:
http://www.kare11.com/story/news/cr...inst-father-in-barway-collins-death/25763913/

Per the timeline it indicates PC was probably inside his car wgen Barway got off the bus.

The Statement of Probable Cause shows that Barway was outside the apartment building from 4:17-4:25, but his father was in the apartment.

Last paragraph, page 2: "While the Jetta was in that parking space, defendant's phone records show he was in the apartment."

Top of page 3: "At 4:25 pm, the defendant's cell phone shows he had left the apartment was (sic) near the Jetta."

http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/1newpierre041515.pdf

Trino · Apr 14, 2015

I'm not convinced the step-mother is totally innocent. Where was she when Barway came home from school? Did she not know PC left about that time?

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