MN - Daunte Wright, 20, fatally shot by police during traffic stop, Brooklyn Center, 11 April 2021

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“Kim Potter executed Daunte for what amounts to no more than a minor traffic infraction and a misdemeanor warrant,” he said.

Experts say cases of officers mistakenly firing their gun instead of a Taser are rare, usually less than once a year nationwide.

Transit officer Johannes Mehserle was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to two years in prison after responding to a fight at a train station in Oakland, California, killing 22-year-old Oscar Grant in 2009. Mehserle testified at trial that he mistakenly pulled his .40-caliber handgun instead of his stun gun.

In Tulsa, Oklahoma, a white volunteer sheriff’s deputy, Robert Bates, was convicted of second-degree manslaughter after accidentally firing his handgun when he meant to deploy his stun gun on Eric Harris, a Black man who was being held down by other officers in 2015.
Minnesota cop to be charged with second-degree manslaughter in fatal shooting of Daunte Wright | WGN-TV

CA - Oscar Grant, 22, fatally shot by BART officer, Oakland, 1 Jan 2009 *GUILTY* *Reopened in 2020*

GUILTY - OK - Eric Harris, 44, fatally shot by Tulsa Co. deputy, 2 April 2015

dont forget https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/crime/article250640624.html
 
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Live vigil:



 
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I assume after they stopped him and went up and talked to him, they would have asked for his drivers license. When they ran the drivers license, the dispatch would have notified the officer that there was an outstanding warrant. The officer doing the traffic stop would then have called for assistance to make the arrest. One error I can see the arresting officer made is by trying to cuff him right there by the open door. Should have walked him away a bit first.

Yes, I agree! I have also wondered why she didn't have him walk to the back of the vehicle when they decided to arrest him. Maybe that is why she came up on the junior officer to help him cuff him. Mistakes were made for sure.
 
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He should have been notified on March4 (District court too)
I can find nothing to indicate which route this notification took, letter or electronically or whether or not his lawyer was notified at the same time
Search - Minnesota Court Records Online (MCRO)
 
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I try hard not to comment often on highly sensitive topics. However, this situation is extremely sad to me. I do not think there is one single problem that created this event. Of course there are racial tensions and issues. Of course there are bad cops. However, I think that driving the commentary trying to make certain that everybody believes one certain way on an issue such as this is part of the problem. I believe this cop drew the wrong weapon - she made a deadly mistake. I also think that the mistrust between cops and the public, and the mistrust between the public and the cops is a contributing factor. There seems to be a consensus that if a person is being detained by the police, that person has the right to flee. When I was raised, I was told to obey commands - obey the police. There is such a new view that I read over and over again that it is okay to flee - and this is often (not ALWAYS) where the problem begins. Of course, there are obvious times where fleeing and resisting are not the beginning of the “problem”, but often times it is where the situation becomes dangerous. No, citizens should not be killed by police, but police also should not be killed by citizens. Neither deserves a death sentence. I don’t know all of the answers, but I think it requires changes on both sides. Kids need to be taught respect. Cops need to be better trained and taught de-escalation techniques. This cop was trying - and failed - to use a non-lethal method of stopping the fleeing criminal. She had the right idea, but executed it wrong. This cannot be undone. But, kids need to realize that when they flee or resist, sometimes they start a chain of events that cannot be undone.
 
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I try hard not to comment often on highly sensitive topics. However, this situation is extremely sad to me. I do not think there is one single problem that created this event. Of course there are racial tensions and issues. Of course there are bad cops. However, I think that driving the commentary trying to make certain that everybody believes one certain way on an issue such as this is part of the problem. I believe this cop drew the wrong weapon - she made a deadly mistake. I also think that the mistrust between cops and the public, and the mistrust between the public and the cops is a contributing factor. There seems to be a consensus that if a person is being detained by the police, that person has the right to flee. When I was raised, I was told to obey commands - obey the police. There is such a new view that I read over and over again that it is okay to flee - and this is often (not ALWAYS) where the problem begins. Of course, there are obvious times where fleeing and resisting are not the beginning of the “problem”, but often times it is where the situation becomes dangerous. No, citizens should not be killed by police, but police also should not be killed by citizens. Neither deserves a death sentence. I don’t know all of the answers, but I think it requires changes on both sides. Kids need to be taught respect. Cops need to be better trained and taught de-escalation techniques. This cop was trying - and failed - to use a non-lethal method of stopping the fleeing criminal. She had the right idea, but executed it wrong. This cannot be undone. But, kids need to realize that when they flee or resist, sometimes they start a chain of events that cannot be undone.
He got back in his vehicle.
The vehicle was stationary at the time she shot him.
That is not fleeing.

Also there were 7 seconds between her warning that she would tase him and when she actually took action.

I do not believe we have been briefed on the intervening conversation.
However his female passenger will testify and the body cameras of the other officers, if switched on will tell stories too.
 
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I try hard not to comment often on highly sensitive topics. However, this situation is extremely sad to me. I do not think there is one single problem that created this event. Of course there are racial tensions and issues. Of course there are bad cops. However, I think that driving the commentary trying to make certain that everybody believes one certain way on an issue such as this is part of the problem. I believe this cop drew the wrong weapon - she made a deadly mistake. I also think that the mistrust between cops and the public, and the mistrust between the public and the cops is a contributing factor. There seems to be a consensus that if a person is being detained by the police, that person has the right to flee. When I was raised, I was told to obey commands - obey the police. There is such a new view that I read over and over again that it is okay to flee - and this is often (not ALWAYS) where the problem begins. Of course, there are obvious times where fleeing and resisting are not the beginning of the “problem”, but often times it is where the situation becomes dangerous. No, citizens should not be killed by police, but police also should not be killed by citizens. Neither deserves a death sentence. I don’t know all of the answers, but I think it requires changes on both sides. Kids need to be taught respect. Cops need to be better trained and taught de-escalation techniques. This cop was trying - and failed - to use a non-lethal method of stopping the fleeing criminal. She had the right idea, but executed it wrong. This cannot be undone. But, kids need to realize that when they flee or resist, sometimes they start a chain of events that cannot be undone.
BBM. Not one person has said that, but some have given reasons why young black men may have reason to fear being in police custody.
 
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"Smearing" the Victim?
here we go with the smearing the victim headlines. no one said he was the best person on earth...
@cvaldez snipped for focus

If statements about a victim's actions are true but negative or unflattering, does that constitute smearing?*

Personally I don't think interp MSM coverage as smearing. Nor the Daily Mail headlines your post referenced.
I don't see coverage as being false or malicious, but others may interp that way. my2ct.


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b: SULLY, BESMIRCH
specifically : to vilify especially by secretly and maliciously spreading grave charges and imputations"
Definition of SMEAR

"Smear campaign, or smear job, an attack on the reputation of an individual or group making use of disinformation tactics."

Smear - Wikipedia

"2. damage the reputation of (someone) by false accusations; slander.
"someone was trying to smear her by faking letters"
Similar: sully, tarnish, besmirch, blacken, drag through the mud/mire, stain"
 
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I try hard not to comment often on highly sensitive topics. However, this situation is extremely sad to me. I do not think there is one single problem that created this event. Of course there are racial tensions and issues. Of course there are bad cops. However, I think that driving the commentary trying to make certain that everybody believes one certain way on an issue such as this is part of the problem. I believe this cop drew the wrong weapon - she made a deadly mistake. I also think that the mistrust between cops and the public, and the mistrust between the public and the cops is a contributing factor. There seems to be a consensus that if a person is being detained by the police, that person has the right to flee. When I was raised, I was told to obey commands - obey the police. There is such a new view that I read over and over again that it is okay to flee - and this is often (not ALWAYS) where the problem begins. Of course, there are obvious times where fleeing and resisting are not the beginning of the “problem”, but often times it is where the situation becomes dangerous. No, citizens should not be killed by police, but police also should not be killed by citizens. Neither deserves a death sentence. I don’t know all of the answers, but I think it requires changes on both sides. Kids need to be taught respect. Cops need to be better trained and taught de-escalation techniques. This cop was trying - and failed - to use a non-lethal method of stopping the fleeing criminal. She had the right idea, but executed it wrong. This cannot be undone. But, kids need to realize that when they flee or resist, sometimes they start a chain of events that cannot be undone.

True, but as many have pointed out, the officer escalated the situation, as shown on the full body cam video with sound. He was standing still while the male officer was trying to cuff him until she approached him, touched him, took a card off of him and the other officer stepped aside a bit. She could have waited until he was fully cuffed.

That matters, a) because she probably realized she created this situation, which created her panic, and b) if we can be sympathetic to her panic, then we can be sympathetic with his, too. He was doing the right thing until she made that move. He had an opportunity to jump into the car before that, with just one officer behind him, trying to handle the cuffs.
 
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The Facts
No warrants were issued for Wright in the aggravated robbery case, according to court records.

The warrant was related to a separate case—27-CR-21-4400—in which Wright was charged with carrying a pistol without a permit and fleeing a peace officer.

A notice for a hearing in that case on April 2 was uploaded on March 4. No returned mail was listed in that case.

Court records show a judge signed a gross misdemeanor warrant for Wright's arrest on April 2 after he missed the 2.30 p.m. Zoom hearing.

Although other official records show Wright's middle name as Demetrius, Newsweek confirmed that "State of Minnesota vs Daunte Demetrious Wright" pertains to the same person, with the same date of birth and address.
Fact Check: Was Daunte Wright's arrest warrant sent to the wrong address?
 
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"Smearing" the Victim?
@Cvaldez snipped for focus

If statements about a victim's actions are true but negative or unflattering, does that constitute smearing?*

Personally I don't think interp MSM coverage as smearing. Nor the Daily Mail headlines your post referenced.
I don't see coverage as being false or malicious, but others may interp that way. my2ct.


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* "
b: SULLY, BESMIRCH
specifically : to vilify especially by secretly and maliciously spreading grave charges and imputations"
Definition of SMEAR

"Smear campaign, or smear job, an attack on the reputation of an individual or group making use of disinformation tactics."

Smear - Wikipedia

"2. damage the reputation of (someone) by false accusations; slander.
"someone was trying to smear her by faking letters"
Similar: sully, tarnish, besmirch, blacken, drag through the mud/mire, stain"
In my opinion it does when it has nothing to do with the case at hand. When people post criminal records it is, to me, like saying, 'he deserved all he got'.
 
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BBM. Not one person has said that, but some have given reasons why young black men may have reason to fear being in police custody.
Exactly.With the George Floyd case nearby I can totally see why he might have felt fear and he turned out to be totally right about it sadly.
 
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"Smearing" the Victim?
@Cvaldez snipped for focus

If statements about a victim's actions are true but negative or unflattering, does that constitute smearing?*

Personally I don't think interp MSM coverage as smearing. Nor the Daily Mail headlines your post referenced.
I don't see coverage as being false or malicious, but others may interp that way. my2ct.


________________________________________________________
* "
b: SULLY, BESMIRCH
specifically : to vilify especially by secretly and maliciously spreading grave charges and imputations"
Definition of SMEAR

"Smear campaign, or smear job, an attack on the reputation of an individual or group making use of disinformation tactics."

Smear - Wikipedia

"2. damage the reputation of (someone) by false accusations; slander.
"someone was trying to smear her by faking letters"
Similar: sully, tarnish, besmirch, blacken, drag through the mud/mire, stain"
It was actually.
They got the warrant from the 2018 case, not the current case!
Daunte Wright had warrant for his arrest for attempted aggravated robbery charges, say court papers | Daily Mail Online
 
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