MN - Dentist Kills a Tame Lion- Catches Heat, July 2015

[Rocco]

Per CNN, Feds have requested Palmer or his representative to contact them. They have been unable to locate Palmer.

In his statement released a couple off days ago, he said he was going to fully cooperate with authorities. Guess he forgot to add: 'if they can find me'.

 

[mister happy]

Ted Nugent weighs in: It's all lies!

"The whole story is a lie,” Nugent wrote on his Facebook page in response to a question about the issue. “It was a wild lion from a ‘park’ where hunting is legal & ESSENTIAL beyond the park borders. All animals reproduce every year & would run out of room/food to live w/o hunting. I will write a full piece on this joke asap. God are people stupid

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/ted-nugent-cecil-the-lion/

 

[Rocco]

Ted Nugent weighs in: It's all lies!



http://ultimateclassicrock.com/ted-nugent-cecil-the-lion/

He's calling other people stupid? Let's see how that works for him.

 

[Elley Mae]

'What lion?' Zimbabweans ask, amid global Cecil circus

http://news.yahoo.com/lion-zimbabweans-ask-amid-global-cecil-circus-140822692.html

"Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country," said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. "What is so special about this one?"

"Why are the Americans more concerned than us?" said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father-of-two cleaning his car in the center of the capital. "We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange."

 

[KaaBoom]

Some hunting is necessary. It was controversial, but authorities felt they had to cull the deer population in the Pittsburgh suburb where my sister lived for years. Failure to do so would have meant slow, cruel deaths of overpopulated deer from disease and starvation. There was also a danger to people from frightened deer trapped in suburbia.

People are hunting in the suburbs of Pittsburgh? Everywhere I have ever lived it was illegal to hunt in a residential area. Sounds like an extremely dangerous way of taking care of a wildlife problem.

 

[Brightbird]

The fact is that the reason most of these animals are endangered is due to illegal poaching. Not the handful of legal kills that people pay high amounts for. I don't think that analogy you put out there is accurate at all. I don't like the idea of trophy hunting, but the fact remains that if local people feel the need to protect the animals for these high priced hunts, they are less likely to become poachers or support poachers.

From my understanding, some of these villages, which do not have a tourism economy, rely on these hunts and are very motivated to keep these animals safe and grow the population. By placing a value on these animals it increases their importance to the people who live there. People just donating money to foundations does not create that. I would be interested in hearing any ideas that could accomplish decreasing poaching, increasing animal population and give locals incentives of protecting the animals.

Like I have said previously, this trophy kill thing disgusted me, until I read about what happened with the white rhino, and had sort of a paradigm shift in the fact that while it's easy for us to sit comfortable in our homes and condemn this, the full story behind this is much more complicated.

I do agree that for the locals who want to protect these animals and their habitat, canned hunting is probably the most effective way to raise the money. There will also be those locals who just see it as a way to cash in. But my problem lies with the hunters, who defend trophy hunting of animals like lions and rhinos by saying it is helping protect them. That's piss weak. Their motivation is bloodlust and a status symbol. They've got the money and if they would pay the same cash for a different experience that doesn't involve killing, I'm sure the locals would be more than happy to cater to that. I know that's not realistic, but I just won't believe hunters who use the conservation argument. There is also something grotesque about a foreigner paying that kind of money to go and slaughter a native animal, when locals are struggling day-to-day.

I just noticed that Australia recently banned the import of any lion parts.

These new rules mean that if you go overseas and engage in the appalling act of canned hunting, you can forget about bringing your lion trophies back to Australia. You don't deserve the right to celebrate the slaughter of these amazing creatures.

http://www.environment.gov.au/minister/hunt/2015/mr20150313.html

 

[KaaBoom]

Ted Nugent weighs in: It's all lies!



http://ultimateclassicrock.com/ted-nugent-cecil-the-lion/

Surprise, surprise, surprise, the gun culture people support the poacher.

 

[Nova]

People are hunting in the suburbs of Pittsburgh? Everywhere I have ever lived it was illegal to hunt in a residential area. Sounds like an extremely dangerous way of taking care of a wildlife problem.

And that was one argument against the culling. But it was a carefully controlled thinning by LE and animal control officers (with bows and arrows, I believe). The residents didn't just run around shooting in a neighborhood with million-dollar homes. My point was only that sometimes killing wild animals is necessary. (Not in this case, obviously.)

 

[KaaBoom]

Karma's a b**ch sometimes. Hope he's enjoying his.

Yelpers are just blasting the guy:

http://www.yelp.com/biz/river-bluff-dental-bloomington

Yelp will remove all those reviews. They always do, which is why Yelp sucks. Stuff like that is such a legitimate part of the review process. If I'm using Yelp to find a dentist, I might want one who doesn't enjoy killing things. Thats just not the type of person I want working on my teeth. The people who run Yelp, don't seem to get that.

 

[KaaBoom]

So let's go ahead and ruin someone's life because they did something we don't agree with. Why is this even news?

:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

 

[Tulessa]

 

[Rocco]

'What lion?' Zimbabweans ask, amid global Cecil circus

http://news.yahoo.com/lion-zimbabweans-ask-amid-global-cecil-circus-140822692.html

"Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country," said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. "What is so special about this one?"

"Why are the Americans more concerned than us?" said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father-of-two cleaning his car in the center of the capital. "We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange."

"While tragic, the lion's death has not inflamed local passions because it is "far removed from the lived realities of most of the local people," he added, saying that tourism and hunting in Zimbabwe are "mired in elitism". "

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33727540

 

[Cappuccino]

There have been good points made on both sides of the argument here, but all I have to say is this - if I knew that my dentist was spending $50,000 on a trip to Africa to "hunt" lions, I would change my dentist.

 

[Snick1946]

Yelp will remove all those reviews. They always do, which is why Yelp sucks. Stuff like that is such a legitimate part of the review process. If I'm using Yelp to find a dentist, I might want one who doesn't enjoy killing things. Thats just not the type of person I want working on my teeth. The people who run Yelp, don't seem to get that.

I stopped going to look at Yelp for anything other than entertainment long ago. Their reviews of businesses, etc are worthless because they try to sugar coat the bad stuff and bad reviews are classed as 'not recommended' although you can find them if you know where to click, casual viewers don't and miss the full picture. Understandably they probably are afraid of libel for some of the customer reviews. But the way they do it is just way ridiculous. I've posted a bad review of a local merchant and one of a dentist- both vanished in a week or so.

Here is a link to a story about him getting 'eaten alive' on Yelp:

http://heavy.com/news/2015/07/walte...tal-page-posts-outrage-deleted-policy-photos/

I think Yelp is going to go down for awhile due to all the negative posts. The linked article refers to his being married and a father of two. Odd, that is the only reference to any family I have seen.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

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Puuuuurrrrfect Tulessa!!!

 

[justice be served]

This has probably already been said, but the Dr. is probably hunting down the lion in Milwaukee. Anything for a thrill! Suggestion to the doc: Doctors Without Borders. Do something for others bud.

What a piece of work this guy is.

 

[EllieBee]

As the world mourned Cecil the lion, five of Kenya’s endangered elephants were slain


While the African lion population is also under threat, it is largely because their habitats are being destroyed by farmers and developers, not because the animals are hunted.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ve-of-kenyas-endangered-elephants-were-slain/

But i'm pretty sure the illegal hunting doesn't help.

 

[EllieBee]

And it's not just one lion. Apparently another male lion will now kill Cecil's cubs. Lions are already endangered.

I hadn't even thought of that. What a piece of crap.

 

[EllieBee]

Ted Nugent weighs in: It's all lies!



http://ultimateclassicrock.com/ted-nugent-cecil-the-lion/

I hope he gets a nasty case of Cat Scratch Fever....

You knew it was coning.....

 

[EllieBee]

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Tulessa, you ROCK!