MN - Dentist Kills a Tame Lion- Catches Heat, July 2015

[Always Amazed]

Trophy hunting of endangered species is facilitated by global airlines that transport animal "trophies" on their aircraft - Delta Airlines being one of the most obstinate in giving up that line of business. There are a couple of petitions out there to pressure Delta and other air carriers to end the practice.

https://www.change.org/p/delta-air-lines-end-the-transport-of-exotic-animal-hunting-trophies
https://action.sumofus.org/a/cecil-airlines/?sub=taf

Thank YOU! Signing and sharing.

 

[La Louve]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Palmer-killer-dentist-stuff-mount-office.html
"Dr Palmer is wanted for questioning on suspicion of breaking two laws – deliberately luring an animal from the park to kill it, and removing the lion’s identifying collar (which should have protected Cecil from being hunted), also a breach of the rules."

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"He’s just a smirking, vile, callous assassin with no heart, whose shameless boasting of his disgusting exploits is almost as repellent as the exploits themselves."

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Sounds like they should charge him with attempted poaching of an elephant and attempted trafficking in ivory too, based on the post about him inquiring about a certain elephant with a 63 pound tusk. No reason to be interested in a tusk unless you plan on poaching the animal for the ivory (IMO).

The fact that Cecil - and probably many of the other animals this guy has killed - suffered for so long is what is even more appalling to me. That and how he's showing himself for the coward he really is. ETA IMO a hunter should always respect the life s/he is taking. To let any animal suffer for 40 hours is in no way an honorable kill. A lion wouldn't let its prey suffer that long!!! If the dude thinks he's so morally right in what he did, he should be standing up in the court of public opinion and defending himself.

 

[Snick1946]

I wonder if Dog the Bounty Hunter could find him:

http://www.dogthebountyhunter.com/

There is a 'contact' on that site but I doubt they could help as he apparently is not currently charged with any crime. Be fun to watch, though.

 

[La Louve]

There should be a special category of Darwin Award for this idiot.

 

[Sillybilly]

I watched our local news recently on the frantic efforts to save this stranded 5 ton orca. Such a contrast in psyche .. the best and worst of humanity:

from "Dr. Palmer, why did you kill Cecil?":
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...5784337/?cmpid=rss1&google_editors_picks=true

Volunteers rushed to the scene, covered her in blankets and for hours doused her with saltwater to keep her cool, all the while trying to calm and soothe her. When the tide rose, the whale’s five-tonne body became buoyant and she was able to swim to safety. People on the scene, interviewed after the fact, expressed wonder at what they had seen and satisfaction at what they had done. The life of a living, breathing, feeling creature had been saved.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Thank YOU! Signing and sharing.

I signed it too! Thanks!

 

[JLSChook]

http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/31/dr-walter-palmer-surfaces-cooperating-with-investigation-cecil-lion

Dr. Walter Palmer -- the dentist who gunned down Cecil the Lion -- has resurfaced and contacted authorities after days of hiding ... TMZ has learned.

Officials for U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service tell us a rep for Dr. Palmer contacted them late Thursday.

We're told Dr. Palmer is cooperating with the investigation into Cecil's death, which focuses on an international law governing hunters who move their trophies from one country to another.

Fish and Wildlife have been looking to speak with Dr. Palmer as it conducts its investigation into the killing of Cecil. The U.S. Dept. of Justice is also investigating.

Zimbabwe officials have already said they want to extradite the dentist to face criminal charges in their country.

 

[SCHMAE]

I just do not understand anything " SPORT" like about this killing. This was an ambush murder, not a sport. I strongly support hunting for food but not a fan of trophy hunting in general and there is not even a ' hunt' in this situation. It's sickening.

 

[mister happy]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/0...lion-wanted-to-kill-elephant-next-guide-says/

So his bloodlust wasn't quenched after killing Cecil! "Theo Bronkhorst told The Daily Telegraph Thursday that after killing the lion, known as Cecil, Palmer asked the guide if he could locate an elephant whose tusk weighed more than 63 pounds "which is a very large elephant.""

Here's the link to Theo Bronhorst's version of events:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ant-next-but-couldnt-find-one-big-enough.html

He said it was Palmer (with his bow & arrow) who finished off Cecil when they found him 40 hours later.

Bronhorst also stated the following:

"I could not have seen the collar at night. We would never shoot a collared animal. I was devastated, and so was the client, we were both upset, and I panicked and took it off and put it in a tree. I should have taken it to Parks [the Zimbabwe Parks and Wildlife Management Authority], I admit that. So we did what had to be done. We took the head and skin, as the client had paid for the trophy." I went to Parks and reported what had happened. I wish I had taken the collar."

If Palmer was devastated that the lion he killed was collared, why did he still want the head and skin as trophies? Shouldn't they have left the body intact and then reported the mishap? That would seem to be proper procedure. Hmmm.

 

[Always Amazed]

Here's the link to Theo Bronhorst's version of events:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ant-next-but-couldnt-find-one-big-enough.html

He said it was Palmer (with his bow & arrow) who finished off Cecil when they found him 40 hours later.

Bronhorst also stated the following:

"I could not have seen the collar at night. We would never shoot a collared animal. I was devastated, and so was the client, we were both upset, and I panicked and took it off and put it in a tree. I should have taken it to Parks [the Zimbabwe Parks and Wildlife Management Authority], I admit that. So we did what had to be done. We took the head and skin, as the client had paid for the trophy." I went to Parks and reported what had happened. I wish I had taken the collar."

If Palmer was devastated that the lion he killed was collared, why did he still want the head and skin as trophies? Shouldn't they have left the body intact and then reported the mishap? That would seem to be proper proceedure. Hmmm.

Doesn't explain why they lured Cecil off the park either.

 

[TorisMom003]

Here's the link to Theo Bronhorst's version of events:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ant-next-but-couldnt-find-one-big-enough.html

He said it was Palmer (with his bow & arrow) who finished off Cecil when they found him 40 hours later.

Bronhorst also stated the following:

"I could not have seen the collar at night. We would never shoot a collared animal. I was devastated, and so was the client, we were both upset, and I panicked and took it off and put it in a tree. I should have taken it to Parks [the Zimbabwe Parks and Wildlife Management Authority], I admit that. So we did what had to be done. We took the head and skin, as the client had paid for the trophy." I went to Parks and reported what had happened. I wish I had taken the collar."

If Palmer was devastated that the lion he killed was collared, why did he still want the head and skin as trophies? Shouldn't they have left the body intact and then reported the mishap? That would seem to be proper proceedure. Hmmm.

It's called covering their arses. My dad hunts (deer, wild hogs, etc) but they always eat the meat from his kills. He has never, ever lost track of an animal he was hunting that had hit with an arrow for 40 hours. I call BS on that statement that they found Cecil "40 hours later".

MOO

 

[musicaljoke]

Sounds like they should charge him with attempted poaching of an elephant and attempted trafficking in ivory too, based on the post about him inquiring about a certain elephant with a 63 pound tusk. No reason to be interested in a tusk unless you plan on poaching the animal for the ivory (IMO).

The fact that Cecil - and probably many of the other animals this guy has killed - suffered for so long is what is even more appalling to me. That and how he's showing himself for the coward he really is. ETA IMO a hunter should always respect the life s/he is taking. To let any animal suffer for 40 hours is in no way an honorable kill. A lion wouldn't let its prey suffer that long!!! If the dude thinks he's so morally right in what he did, he should be standing up in the court of public opinion and defending himself.

Don't you just wonder how many animals this dentist, and others like him, have killed and not of word of it has hit the press. If another lion had been shot, then would anyone have cared? If anything good can come from the death of Cecil, perhaps it will be that the responsibility for poaching has touched American shores.

 

[SCHMAE]

It's called covering their arses. My dad hunts (deer, wild hogs, etc) but they always eat the meat from his kills. He has never, ever lost track of an animal he was hunting that had hit with an arrow for 40 hours. I call BS on that statement that they found Cecil "40 hours later".

MOO

If Cecil made it 40 hrs , that tells me his will to live was strong as was his health and medical intervention would likely have saved him. This whole story makes me sick and while I'm on things that make me sick, I've seen a lot of posts about ' why so much attention for a lion when people are dying every day ? '' . Being outraged over the lion's death does not mean we 're not outraged over the deaths of any humans. I'm sure many fellow WS'ers would agree, we spend countless hours of our lives fretting over missing and dead humans on this forum .... probably far , far more hours than the average caring , compassionate person. We can care about both humans and animals !!!

 

[SCHMAE]

Don't you just wonder how many animals this dentist, and others like him, have killed and not of word of it has hit the press. If another lion had been shot, then would anyone have cared? If anything good can come from the death of Cecil, perhaps it will be that the responsibility for poaching has touched American shores.

Many years ago , I stepped into a large barn that was on a tree farm. The barn must have been the office area. On the wall were heads of many animals . One was a giraffe and that is the first time I ever realized people would ' hunt' them. I had no idea there was such a sport as giraffe hunting. His whole head and neck were mounted on the wall.

 

[ButForFortune]

I am going to just throw up......

WARNING! Awful photos.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...luding-leopard-elephant-death-Cecil-lion.html

Ugggg - how disrespectful to the animal to hang your hat on its horns after you take its life, lay your rifles against it, and then pose with a smile. Disgusting! Tells me everything I need to know about the true person hidden inside this smiling man.

 

[Friday Fan]

Grhhhh.....The African lion is not considered an endangered or threatened species by the US govt. So unlimited scalps can be sent back here.....I just don't get this.......

When an animal is threatened, federal law prohibits the possession, transportation, or shipment of the animal (or part of its carcass, as a trophy) across state or international borders. But the U.S. doesn’t consider the African lion to be endangered or threatened. (U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has proposed revising the lion’s status to list it as threatened; a final decision is expected in October.)*

(The title of the article is a bit misleading, but I paste it due to copyright. It does discuss possible federal law with regards to overseas bribery - but for now importing endangered lion heads is perfectly legal because they aren't endangered in the US)


The Alleged Lion Killer Could Be Tried in the U.S.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...he_can_be_tried_in_the_u_s_or_extradited.html

 

[magnolia]

Sounds like they should charge him with attempted poaching of an elephant and attempted trafficking in ivory too, based on the post about him inquiring about a certain elephant with a 63 pound tusk. No reason to be interested in a tusk unless you plan on poaching the animal for the ivory (IMO).

The fact that Cecil - and probably many of the other animals this guy has killed - suffered for so long is what is even more appalling to me. That and how he's showing himself for the coward he really is. ETA IMO a hunter should always respect the life s/he is taking. To let any animal suffer for 40 hours is in no way an honorable kill. A lion wouldn't let its prey suffer that long!!! If the dude thinks he's so morally right in what he did, he should be standing up in the court of public opinion and defending himself.

BBM- Same here. The 40 hrs. of suffering breaks my heart. I can think of several different ways I would like to see Palmer punished.:furious: Need a bow and arrow emoticon.

:behindbar :bud::viking::thewhip::hanging::soldier: :saber:

 

[mister happy]

It's called covering their arses. My dad hunts (deer, wild hogs, etc) but they always eat the meat from his kills. He has never, ever lost track of an animal he was hunting that had hit with an arrow for 40 hours. I call BS on that statement that they found Cecil "40 hours later".

MOO

I hope you're right, for Cecil's sake!

 

[Brightbird]

Don't you just wonder how many animals this dentist, and others like him, have killed and not of word of it has hit the press. If another lion had been shot, then would anyone have cared? If anything good can come from the death of Cecil, perhaps it will be that the responsibility for poaching has touched American shores.

Apparently quite a lot of animals are bred for this purpose. This article is about South Africa.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/jun/03/canned-hunting-lions-bred-slaughter

 

[jjenny]

It's called covering their arses. My dad hunts (deer, wild hogs, etc) but they always eat the meat from his kills. He has never, ever lost track of an animal he was hunting that had hit with an arrow for 40 hours. I call BS on that statement that they found Cecil "40 hours later".

MOO

Cecil had a tracking collar. I am pretty sure the time estimate comes from his tracking collar, not from what the hunters were saying.