MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #15 - Chauvin Trial Day 12

[MadMcGoo]

There’s a big difference between justification and explanation in my opinion. Nothing can justify what he did. There may, however, be things that would explain why he made the decisions he did.

Edited for emphasis.

 

[branmuffin]

He's on his knees, he's handcuffed right? Yes. He then says thank you, and then he is pushed onto the ground, yes? Yes.

Would the position they pushed him into on the ground qualify as the side position recovery position was he not? Yes. And then he was taken out of that recovery position and moved to a prone position face down on pavement while handcuffed right? Yes.

State trying to get expert to admit one knee was on GF's neck and Back. Expert balks at that description saying knee upper back and neck. State showing a close up photo now, Gets him to say in exhibit 240 the knee is on the neck.

would you agree that Defendant's right knee is on back and left knee is on neck.

It's the old *singing* the back bone's connected to the ear bone.

 

[Katerz]

He was ‘STRUGGLING’ to breathe not against the officers

I don’t think I can watch any more of this. Are people who are actively being killed supposed to lie there and die quietly? Is that what he’s freaking saying.

Making a cuppa tea before I start shouting at the screen

I’ll take one as well.. with something a lil stronger than tea!

 

[MTW2011]

Here's an older video when he testified as use of force expert in Justin Van Dyke trial , who was ultimately convicted last year of second-degree murder for shooting McDonald 16 times:
Defense Expert Barry Brodd.mp4 from Andrew Branca on Vimeo

 

[Katerz]

There’s a big difference between justification and explanation in my opinion. Nothing can justify what he did. There may, however, be things that would explain why he made the decisions he did.

I’m sorry but IMO there’s no way to justify what he did.

 

[Weki]

I’m sorry but IMO there’s no way to justify what he did.

None! No explanation/excuse for it either. It defies all reasonableness and common sense standards! IMO

 

[Reasonable & Just]

He was ‘STRUGGLING’ to breathe not against the officers

I don’t think I can watch any more of this. Are people who are actively being killed supposed to lie there and die quietly? Is that what he’s freaking saying.

Making a cuppa tea before I start shouting at the screen

Yes, that's what we are expected to accept.

 

[BUF]

Just saw this and had to post it for those who missed it.

(video at link)

https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1382072679306383361

#DerekChauvinTrial - Cross: what part of this is non-compliant?

Brodd: A compliant person would have both their hands in the small of their back.."resting comfortably"

State: "Did you say resting comfortably?"

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I think that this expert is doing as good of job as can be expected. There's no way to make the videos of Chauvin with his knee on Floyd's back look good. JMO

 

[Katerz]

I understand this is Nelson’s job.. but I don’t see how he can stand there with a good conscience (is that the right word? I’m drawing a blank I’m so mad) and actually believe that what his client did was okay. I really don’t. I’m not trying to bash counsel or witness.. but this is just ridiculously obsurd.

 

[Algo214]

I'm sick at his "this is resisting" when Floyd had clearly had some sort of reflex that made his leg bend all of a sudden.
I'm not a doctor but I guess that's when the anoxic seizure we heard about before occurred?

 

[Factoria]

Has anyone already gone back to transcribe the 'resting comfortably' exchange yet? If not, I'll give it a go, as I truly think this is one for the history books. But, I'm quite hard of hearing, so may need some assistance with edits afterward. lol

 

[Katerz]

Has anyone already gone back to transcribe the 'resting comfortably' exchange yet? If not, I'll give it a go, as I truly think this is one for the history books. But, I'm quite hard of hearing, so may need some assistance with edits afterward. lol

when you do, can you please add a !!!! After the ? When S all but yells “did you say resting comfortably?!?!!!”

 

[MsBetsy]

There have been several times, by both the prosecution and defense, when I didn’t think snippets or still images were nearly adequate enough.

That's true, but the witness and video evidence shows Chauvin's knee on his neck for over nine minutes. Even if the defense proved (by those still shots) that he lifted or moved his knee a few seconds (four or five different times,) it would still be around nine minutes that he had his knee on Floyd's neck.

 

[Leve]

With hands in pocket at times and his back turned...

His hands weren't in his pockets. He was wearing black gloves.

Also, I have watched waaay to many videos of encounters turning violent. its weird because one second its arguing then bam sh#t hits the fan. I think they are talking more of a tense/combustable situation that just needs a spark to set it off.

 

[Katerz]

How can this witness say he can’t tell if George was in pain?! He was telling the officers he wa sim PAIN! Are you for frickin real!

 

[turaj]

he reminds me of an age progression of Derek Chauvin!!

 

[Katerz]

Judge give us a break please. After that I just.. I have to mutter repeatedly that I won’t break my phone.

 

[BUF]

Even S had enough of this expert witness.

Recess for the day, but think judge and attorneys are going over some issues.

 

[turaj]

oh he said "don't talk to anyone and don't watch the news" first time I have heard that.