MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #17 - Chauvin Trial Day 14

[Weki]

And now the jury must be wondering why Chauvin didn't bother to explain or defend himself. Or maybe not. They probably already know the answer.

Oh I’m certain at least a couple of them are. Of course they’ll be instructed that they can’t hold that against him but some jurors do regardless. I know one juror on my jury did. In this case, it’s a police officer so there could be the sentiment that he needs to explain himself especially given 9 minutes and 29 seconds! It’s a simple question of “wtf dude?” JMO

 

[Rhozwen]

Oh, ok! I had thought that the counsels were going to discuss jury instructions and motions that are still outstanding prior to such. (Assume BIG TIME this is one which will be broadcasted.. how they will do so quick and have jury in at the time they stated.. wow!)

Good to know!

Did he specifically state that Monday would be when that was done? I know they cut it close... but why not in the next two days they have open to nail down jury instructions?

The judge said they will be "off the record until Monday" and the lawyers and judge will be in what he called a "charge meeting". So it seems that meeting is not aired? That's what I can gather.

 

[missy1974]

Then keep an eye out if done in chambers the jury instructions, although I thought that SHOULD be streamed. The updates to jury instructions, once and order is done, will be at Minnesota Judicial Branch - 27-CR-20-12646: State vs. Derek Chauvin

I think they just decided to do it more informally, not for any reason other than they wanted too lol No camera's... I don't blame them.
Yep, I'm sure there will be a few of us looking for those today and/or tomorrow.
SOOOOO important how these will be worded IMO

 

[dixiegirl1035]

But wouldn’t that mean the gas testing wasn’t accurate as a whole then?

I need to relisten to get subtleties MOO. It wasn't that they weren't "accurate"... it's the interpretation MOO

 

[JerseyGirl]

I will be closing this thread. back to Sidebar thread until Monday morning. please continue here:

George Floyd death / Derek Chauvin trial - Sidebar week 3

 

[JerseyGirl]

Judge Cahill is going back on the record at 3pm

Back on the record to discuss juror instructions.

They’re currently discussing the use of force instructions. Nelson says it would “...specifically to include the totality of circumstances tests as well as the without regard to his own state of mind intention or motivation language.”

https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1382787452901941248?s=21

Nelson says there was a “substantial amount of instruction” on the 3rd degree murder charge. He asks it be consistent with a recent ruling and statutory language.

On the 2nd degree murder charge instructions, Nelson says "Again, it is the defendants position that the standard jury instruction should be applied as the court had included & that modifications were not necessarily relevant to intent to cause the assault…”

Judge Cahill says his instructions list what the jury should not consider…including "sympathy, prejudice, bias, public opinion, and they should also not consider the consequences or possible penalties that might attach to their decision.”

https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1382788951652630531?s=21

 

[JerseyGirl]

Attorney Sundeep Iyer is currently presenting the state’s argument on jury instructions via a phone call.

Iyer offers an alternative definition pulled from a recent MN Supreme Court ruling. “Reckless disregard for human life means that the defendant was indifferent to the loss of life that an eminently dangerous act by the defendant could cause”

Iyer asks the court to delete the phrase “May not have been specifically directed at the particular person whose death occurred” or if not, to change “may not” to “Need.”

This is related to 3rd degree murder instructions.

https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1382792023615410176?s=21

 

[JerseyGirl]

Matthew Frank is following up now on instructions on the 2019 incident…

https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1382792327228448769?s=21

Frank: You know we did oppose the instruction about the invocation of the Fifth Amendment, privilege, just so that's on the record.

Nelson: ...the last paragraph that states whether the officers own conduct during the incident unreasonably created the need to use such force, and we had objected to that.

Judge Cahill says he’ll have a draft to the attorneys tomorrow morning. He tells them they won’t argue the substance of the instructions, but he will address typos.

Back in court Monday 9 a.m.

https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1382793698900123658?s=21

 

[JerseyGirl]

Sidebar thread open until Monday morning. please continue here:

George Floyd death / Derek Chauvin trial - Sidebar week 3

 

[JerseyGirl]

I set up a new thread for today’s closing and eventual jury deliberations. Please continue here/

MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing Day 15

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