MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #8 - Chauvin Trial Day 5

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Going through steps which just included medical distress of the person restrained

Review of cameras include restraint of gf

Yes

You weee able to assess the restraint of gf

Did you see any kicking

No none

Defence asked bout holding for ems

Yes

Does holding for ems excuse an officer from providing medical care

No it doesn’t
 
  • #202
Powerful witness testimony!
 
  • #203
If handcuff not properly locked can they tighten

Yes

If they not locked can they losen

Yes
 
  • #204
Based on review of cam did you see any need for dc to improvise and put his knee on GF for 9.29

No I did not!!

Sidebar
 
  • #205
probably questioning if they want to start with the Chief in sidebar.
 
  • #206
Done for the day. Wowsers. That was full on peoples
 
  • #207
This witness has shown that there was actual ongoing training about what not to do to someone in custody. And Chauvin decided to do those things, anyway, despite knowing it could cause death, i.e., keeping him handcuffed while in prone position. And that doesn’t even include kneeing the person’s neck!

Murder.

This question is to everyone....

Does the above quoted testimony info meet the 2nd degree murder requirements?
 
  • #208
Not sure why the defence is trying to portray Chauvin as being in a fight for his life. There is video evidence.
 
  • #209
i can't get over no admonition to the jury over the long weekend. This judge certainly operates in a different manner than other trials I have watched.
 
  • #210
Cathy Russon
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#DerekChauvinTrial - Under cross Nelson asks if Zimmerman would agree that the use of force is based on a lot of information and not necessarily everything captured on body cam footage. Zimmerman agreed.


#DerekChauvinTrial - Under redirect Zimmerman agrees that it's well known that the prone position is dangerous.


Zimmerman is done and JURY IS EXCUSED until Monday morning


link: https://twitter.com/cathyrusson
 
  • #211
"Knee on the neck is deadly force" Bam!
 
  • #212
This question is to everyone....

Does the above quoted testimony info meet the 2nd degree murder requirements?
In my opinion: not by itself.
Not Unintentional 2nd degree anyway, because death has to have occurred as the result of a felony, which is 3rd degree assault in this case, meaning "serious bodily harm"
Said felony does need intent, so they would have to prove intent to cause serious bodily harm, which I think they have not yet.

We're way into 3rd degree territory though. 2.25 if you will.
 
  • #213
Lt Zimmerman was SO much better than any scripted "use of force expert"
 
  • #214
Based on review of cam did you see any need for dc to improvise and put his knee on GF for 9.29

No I did not!!

Sidebar

I think state got great points in on redirects both days. That last statement will be ringing in jury’s mind all weekend
 
  • #215
Thanks everyone for your posts.
 
  • #216
Not sure why the defence is trying to portray Chauvin as being in a fight for his life. There is video evidence.

Like Chauvin, he is not reassessing the current situation and readjusting his strategy? :p:p:D:eek:
 
  • #217
i can't get over no admonition to the jury over the long weekend. This judge certainly operates in a different manner than other trials I have watched.

I too am surprised at such, especially in such a high profile case. I always thought this was standard. MOO
 
  • #218
"Knee on the neck is deadly force" Bam!

Top of the "Use of force continuum POLICY and training"

1) Your presence as LE
2) Verbal skills
3) Soft technique e.g. escort to your LE vehicle
4) Hard technique e.g. handcuffs or mace
5) DEADLY FORCE
 
  • #219
Are they on break or done for the day?Why is HLN replaying previous testimony right now?
 
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