MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #9 - Chauvin Trial Day 6

[MsBetsy]

I'm not sure the placement of the knee makes a difference. Based on testimony I have seen, it appears the knee to the neck would obstruct blood flow. The weight of the knee, along with two other officers weight, would obstruct the ability to inhale.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the neck restraint is considered a form of the chokehold.

In the manual, MN Statute 609.06, it defines chokehold as "a method by which a person applies sufficient pressure to make breathing difficult or impossible, including, but not limited to, throat or windpipe that may prevent or hinder breathing or reduce intake of air..."

 

[Linda7NJ]

This is also known as “hooping.”

I thought “hooping” was playing basketball??

 

[MsBetsy]

I have a problem with cop not rolling him to his side -
Failure to render aide isn’t Murder or even close though

They did much more than fail to render aid.

 

[Linda7NJ]

This is also known as “hooping.”

I thought “hooping” was playing basketball??

They did much more than fail to render aid.

That remains to be proven

 

[UKslueth2018]

This is also known as “hooping.”

One of the sidebar discussions from the weekend covers this.. I believe from my limited understanding that it is a quicker method of ingestion

 

[margarita25]

I disagree. Running or not, condensation will continue up to drip. GF'S pants appeared dry when he was lifted up, and iirc, that condensation was already on the street before GF was removed from the vehicle.

(note for sidebar convo, have questions.)

 

[CrimeAway]

what was the deal with taking drugs rectally?

The anus (& vagina) are very vascular, and can allow more rapid uptake of drugs than via swallowing. That is one reason why anti-seizure drugs are given rectally when IV/IO access is not possible (eg: parent giving meds to a child with epilepsy, during a seizure).
Also, the vodka-tampon craze that was in the news a few years ago.
Of course, administering a drug rectally, that is normally ingested orally (PO), could produce rapid, unpredictable effects (even if that same drug had been taken orally before).

Rectal administration - Wikipedia

 

[UKslueth2018]

I thought “hooping” was playing basketball??


That remains to be proven

The question about drugs through rectum was asked of the doctor today

 

[Linda7NJ]

One of the sidebar discussions from the weekend covers this.. I believe from my limited understanding that it is a quicker method of ingestion

is there any evidence GF had also taken drugs rectally that day ?

 

[CrimeAway]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the neck restraint is considered a form of the chokehold.

In the manual, MN Statute 609.06, it defines chokehold as "a method by which a person applies sufficient pressure to make breathing difficult or impossible, including, but not limited to, throat or windpipe that may prevent or hinder breathing or reduce intake of air..."

No, IMO neck restraint and chokehold are not necessarily the same.

 

[MsBetsy]

The question about drugs through rectum was asked of the doctor today

He wouldn't have checked for that but they might have been able to tell from the autopsy. There wasn't any indication that they found anything suggesting that, though.

 

[UKslueth2018]

is there any evidence GF had also ingested taken rectally?

Not that I am aware.

He obviously has drugs in his system as per his autopsy but how they were taken is only speculation from a comment he made about hooping, which I think was caught on officer body cam

I haven’t seen autopsy report though (don’t know if anyone has?) or if they could tell either way. Assume maybe via swab?

 

[CrimeAway]

is there any evidence GF had also taken drugs rectally that day ?

He stated that he had as he was being walked across the street.
(from Lane BCA transcript and also bodycam).

 

[margarita25]

(Here’s where I think some additional points of discussion...gah overwhelmed, Tox report, meth. The meth thing is where it could get tricky, imo. Not watching, just reflecting. Linda and I are talking straight up, so I’m thinking of some points with the defense, idk if they’ll touch on the meth thing, they may..cont..@dixiegirl1035, can u please bring fwd tox, nevermind I know where to find it, I’ll bring it forward then I want to see tox dose for meth (again, I think DC’s knee killed him, not the meth, but bringing forward for analysis)

 

[sds71]

Sorry, I might have just been listening at that point. Multitasking. Thanks.

https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1379180472647946241/retweets/with_comments
@KatiePhang
The prosecution, on Redirect, made it clear that the other videos show Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck & that Chauvin moved his knee once the paramedics arrived.

 

[Sillybilly]

Trial is over for the day and the thread is closed.

Please move on over to the Sidebar for Week 2.

 

[Sillybilly]

Sorry folks, I was not aware that JG has set up a Weekly Sidebar, so the above link to Sidebar won't work.

I'll have to start a new Sidebar for this week. Give me a few minutes.

 

[Sillybilly]

Okay, I've set up the Sidebar for Week 2 and edited the Sidebar link ^^ in my above post.

 

[JerseyGirl]

MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #10 - Chauvin Trial Day 7

Next trial day thread here.