MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #9 - Chauvin Trial Day 6

[JerseyGirl]

Nelson: The use of fentanyl, do you know if that contributes to high carbon dioxide levels?
Langenfeld: It can cause high carbon dioxide levels because it depresses the ventilation or the breathing.

Nelson is now asking Dr. Langenfeld about the use of Narcan, a drug that reverses the effects of opiates.

Dr. Langenfeld did not use Narcan and testifies that paramedics did not report using Narcan on George Floyd.

The state just objected to Nelson's question.

Judge Cahill calls for a sidebar

https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1379102025661743106?s=21

 

[JerseyGirl]

Judge Cahill says the last question is withdrawn.

Eric Nelson asks "Only a physician can declare a person dead" and goes on to say "A paramedic can't declare a person dead."

Langenfeld says "No, not without consultation with a physician."

Nelson: And if you do have opiates in your system, the administration of Narcan, could be a lifesaver.

Langenfeld: Yes, not in this case.

Jerry Blackwell asks if Dr. Langenfeld would like to clarify an answer about Narcan, essentially saying it wouldn't benefit someone who is in cardiac arrest.

Jerry Blackwell is now asking Dr. Langenfeld about the high CO2 reading in George Floyd's blood.

He's now going into a technical response about CO2..."in my estimation, the blood gas in this case wasn't very strong evidence for one cause over another."

Dr. Langenfeld is excused.


https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1379103541973880841?s=21

 

[turaj]

The Chief is on. "where do you live?" Answer "Twin Cities"...I am pretty sure he lives in the Suburbs!!

 

[JerseyGirl]

Chief Arradondo is now sworn in to testify.

Steve Schleicher is now asking Chief Arradondo about his background, where he is from, education, etc.

https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1379105102989041665?s=21

 

[Algo214]

"Narcan wouldn't benefit someone who is in cardiac arrest"

Closer and closer to a conviction

 

[girlhasnoname]

Police Chief Arradondo is awesome IMO

 

[turaj]

The Chief is on. He is a good man with a very tough job.

 

[Factoria]

the lack of communication between the scene/emt and emergency department boggles my mind. No consideration of drug overdose...I think this will give defense some ammo

Does it really, though? Wouldn't it have been the officers' duty to report to EMS their suspicion of drug overdose, and their reasons for such? Was this information relayed to EMS at all? Would it have made a difference in their initial assessment or treatment? Could Narcan have saved him at that point, or was it too late already?

IMO, based on information received thus far, regardless of why GF's heart stopped beating, the fact that no medical aid whatsoever was offered from the time he became unresponsive until paramedics began treatment after he was in the ambulance drastically impacted the chances for his survival.

ETA: I was 10 minutes behind watching the live feed... Dr. L answered some of those questions I posed.

 

[ElizaKate]

Can just anticipate Nelson's cross now. "When was the last time you had to detain someone", "Your job is just a desk job now correct?" - he has to be careful though - the jury is going to like this witness I think. Trying to discredited anything he says is going to be very difficult.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Served as a Sergeant in Internal Affairs investing police misconduct. Wow

 

[JerseyGirl]

Schleicher: You've been in situations where you use force, is that right?
Arradondo: That is correct.
S: Have you also been in situations where you've had to de-escalate ...?
A: Yes.

Arradondo describe an MPD sergeants role as "the most influential" because of their close work with officers serving in the community. He says the "set the tone" or attitude.

Arradondo was a sergeant in Internal Affairs. That involves "investigating cases of misconduct involving MPD employees and fact finding, preparing reports" for supervisors. This can include uses of force/excessive force.

Steve Schleicher is asking Chief Arradondo about his MPD resume, promotions and his role in various leadership positions.

https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1379108415633494016?s=21

 

[JerseyGirl]

Chief Arradondo says there are around 700 officers currently with the department.

Schleicher asks Arradondo to identify Derek Chauvin and describe what he's wearing.

https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1379111253675798537?s=21

 

[JerseyGirl]

Schleicher, "Are you familiar generally with the day to day operations from the patrol level all the way up to the level you are now?"

Chief, "That is correct"

https://twitter.com/callangraynews/status/1379110625943543813?s=21

 

[Weki]

This is pretty long and detailed about MPD generally. The Chief moved up the ranks pretty quickly. Very impressive! Good shmoozer?? He’s also I’m sure here to do some PR for the department.

 

[JerseyGirl]

So far, Chief Arradondo (who pronounced his first name Medaria "meh-DARE-uh" not "meh-DARE-ee-uh") has gone over all foundation and background of his history with MPD leading up to taking role as chief. Now he is beginning to talk about who leads training.

https://twitter.com/louraguse/status/1379113184255221778?s=21

 

[Linda7NJ]

I think the defense is doing a remarkable job thus far with prosecution witnesses - seems all we have from the prosecution is emotion based opinions and more opinions on policing

 

[missy1974]

The Chief is on. He is a good man with a very tough job.

I want to word this carefully, because I don't want to start a debate or derail, but I understand that Minneapolis PD has a history and he has been Chief now for 3 years, and I'm hoping we will learn more in his testimony about what he has done to change things.

But has the Chief made some positive changes in the last 3 years from your perspective? Actually, I am more interested to know what changes he made before this happened.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Schleicher is now focusing on MPD's third precinct and the sectors inside the precinct. Sectors give a geographic location for dispatch.

Schleicher now asks Arradondo about Inspector Katie Blackwell. Last year, she was the commander in charge of training for MPD. Earlier, Nelson brought her up as one of the witnesses we expect to hear from today or this week.

Arradondo: Yeah, I would actually say that the actual law enforcement part is probably pretty small compared to most of the types of calls our officers are being called to address and deal with.

Schleicher is now shifting questions to MPD training, where they train and how training starts for new officers.

https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1379112838162178053?s=21

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Ohhhhhh the good doc said the magic word - asphyxia!!

From media thread, cut/paste here as I always had though asphyxia was due to windpipe:

"MEDCRAM video on Floyd autopsy -

Just came across this in feed. Dr. Hansen is with MedCram, one of the two sites (other is Dr. Campbell) that we at WS have followed for science on the COVID thread. They give videos that a "normal lay person" can gain knowledge from vs. speaking to other scientists/doctors.

I learned sooooooo much from this video, so sharing here knowing he is approved by WS. e.g. asphyxia isn't just lungs breathing, it's medical terminology is also "no oxygen to the brain". He also goes into compression and positional asphyxia, how there may not be postmortem signs (e.g. bruising) for such. Also, most deaths have multifacted reasons not just one. Who knew?

Screenshot for pressure needed below which may come in at trial

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[Shaddow]

I think the defense is doing a remarkable job thus far with prosecution witnesses - seems all we have from the prosecution is emotion based opinions and more opinions on policing

Really? I disagree...