GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1
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This is interesting. I think the judge will not grant a mistrial.
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Nelson says he believes there is a case of prosecutorial misconduct w/potential grounds for a mistrial. He references repeated comments about “stories” and “implications that we were cheating…”
https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1384250895177682950?s=21
Nelson: And essentially, these comments were repeated comments constitute prosecutorial misconduct.
Judge Cahill: I'm not making any findings as to whether it was the type of prosecutorial misconduct that would result in this trial, I think it was adequately addressed by the courts instruction to disregard.
https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1384250895177682950?s=21
Nelson: And essentially, these comments were repeated comments constitute prosecutorial misconduct.
Judge Cahill: I'm not making any findings as to whether it was the type of prosecutorial misconduct that would result in this trial, I think it was adequately addressed by the courts instruction to disregard.
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(I was going to ask the same question, but thought I’d wait til sidebar, but since you asked...)
We know that if they return quickly, it will be a guilty verdict all the way. I am expecting they’ll be out a few days, maybe a week but WHO KNOWS. I think it’s anyone’s guess.
I’ll say this, I am very nervous about this verdict, as I’m sure many of us are. I can’t remember being “worried” about a verdict in recent history.
IF there is some sort of lesser degree of accountability, it certainly won’t be because of lack of effort, or a strong presentation by the prosecution, imo.
IMO the “substantial causal factor” is plain as day. However, as we know, individuals are individuals with their own opinions and perhaps biases. If there’s one thing I’ve learned this year, it’s “don’t expect to agree”. Jmo
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Alternates:
No. 96: White woman, 50s
She described herself as an animal lover who is passionate about advocacy for affordable housing and homelessness. She told the court said she recently resigned from her customer service-related job. The juror noted she feels like she is good at de-escalating conflicts and getting both sides to come together for a resolution.
She said she had seen video clips of the bystander video a few times and is also aware of the $27 million settlement.
In her questionnaire, she wrote that the restraint used on Floyd was “ultimately responsible” for his death, but under questioning she acknowledged that was her assumption based on what she had seen. She acknowledged the video may not show the entirety of what happened.
No. 118: White woman, 20s
The juror is a social worker who has relatives who are nurses.
In her line of work, she's had to call the police to remove unruly people. When asked by the prosecution if she's ever seen someone not comply with the police, she said she has not. Schleicher, the prosecutor, wondered if she would blame a person who doesn't comply with police for injuries resulting from a police encounter. She said everyone needs to be treated with respect even if they are suspected of a crime.
She disagrees with defunding police, but under questioning about police reform said that “there are good things and things that should be changed.”
The juror said she’s discussed the case with family members, including one who said they thought Chauvin should not have kept his knee on Floyd's neck for that long.
She said her decision regarding a verdict would not affect her relationship with family and she wouldn't feel the need to justify it. She said she's curious to hear more about police training that may have influenced how the encounter unfolded.
No. 96: White woman, 50s
She described herself as an animal lover who is passionate about advocacy for affordable housing and homelessness. She told the court said she recently resigned from her customer service-related job. The juror noted she feels like she is good at de-escalating conflicts and getting both sides to come together for a resolution.
She said she had seen video clips of the bystander video a few times and is also aware of the $27 million settlement.
In her questionnaire, she wrote that the restraint used on Floyd was “ultimately responsible” for his death, but under questioning she acknowledged that was her assumption based on what she had seen. She acknowledged the video may not show the entirety of what happened.
No. 118: White woman, 20s
The juror is a social worker who has relatives who are nurses.
In her line of work, she's had to call the police to remove unruly people. When asked by the prosecution if she's ever seen someone not comply with the police, she said she has not. Schleicher, the prosecutor, wondered if she would blame a person who doesn't comply with police for injuries resulting from a police encounter. She said everyone needs to be treated with respect even if they are suspected of a crime.
She disagrees with defunding police, but under questioning about police reform said that “there are good things and things that should be changed.”
The juror said she’s discussed the case with family members, including one who said they thought Chauvin should not have kept his knee on Floyd's neck for that long.
She said her decision regarding a verdict would not affect her relationship with family and she wouldn't feel the need to justify it. She said she's curious to hear more about police training that may have influenced how the encounter unfolded.
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Maxine Waters. She was talking to the jury. JMO
What?
Maxine Waters over the weekend said "'I am not happy that we have talked about police reform for so long,' Waters said. 'We're looking for a guilty verdict,' she added in regards to the Derek Chauvin trial. 'If we don't, we cannot go away.'"
Maxine Waters calls for protesters to 'get more confrontational' if no guilty verdict is reached in Derek Chauvin trial - CNNPolitics
Maxine Waters calls for protesters to 'get more confrontational' if no guilty verdict is reached in Derek Chauvin trial - CNNPolitics
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(Hmmmmm.)
(eta: listening to Nelson)
(eta: listening to Nelson)
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Asking again...for a mistrial. First one denied...
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He digging deep...
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EN: I specifically referenced...an elected official U.S. Congress person was gave me...what I think are reasonably interpreted to be threats against the sanctity of the jury process, threatening and intimidating the jury…
https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1384251510280757251?s=21
Nelson: I mean it's found its way into even fictional television, too. I was advised of two television shows, during the course of the past few days, that specifically involve references to this particular case…
JC: I told them, don't watch the news, pure and simple.
EN: If you can't even watch your favorite Thursday night television, and it comes up, I mean this this is…why I have felt that this jury should have been sequestered from the very beginning…
https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1384251510280757251?s=21
Nelson: I mean it's found its way into even fictional television, too. I was advised of two television shows, during the course of the past few days, that specifically involve references to this particular case…
JC: I told them, don't watch the news, pure and simple.
EN: If you can't even watch your favorite Thursday night television, and it comes up, I mean this this is…why I have felt that this jury should have been sequestered from the very beginning…
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Whoa - the judge's statement about Waters!
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