MN - George Floyd, 46, unarmed, killed in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 *arrests* #2

[Boxer]

Yes it was. That the building burned to the ground could mean everything or nothing. It could have been and likely was part of the general destruction. Or it could have been to destroy evidence. Or an accident. The radio station employees said it sounded like a bomb went off in the club/restaurant. Gas leak or deliberate?

Having a another house in very posh Windemere Florida is maybe a lot of wealth for a policeman.

 

[Lilibet]

The new owner of El Nuevo Rodeo Club started posting on FB Feb. 11.

El Nuevo Rodeo

They closed March 20. No more posts. Not even advertising food pick-up or delivery.

El Nuevo Rodeo

 

[Lilibet]

Having a another house in very posh Windemere Florida is maybe a lot of wealth for a policeman.

Indeed.

 

[molly1255]

There must be something more. Some sort of messed up "Perfect Storm" that made Chauvin be such an idiot. He almost had his 20 years in. At that point, most officers just sort of coast until they are out. Letting junior officers get in the fray.

I wouldn't bet on Chauvin being alive in 6 months.

I feel there is something that is missing that we don't know about yet with respect to Chauvin. I can't find the article right now, but I read that Chauvin's wife filed for divorce the day before George Floyd was killed. I don't know for a fact that is correct, but if it is, it might go to your theory of there being some messed up perfect storm that made Chauvin turn into such an idiot. And a deadly one at that.

From my own personal experience, I had divorce papers served on my now ex years ago. Suffice it to say, he did far more than what was necessary to lead any reasonably intelligent woman to come to the conclusion that she had no choice but to terminate the marriage. His reaction was extreme anger, to the point of being in a rage. At the time, I was worried some random person might get caught in his crosshairs while he was in his rage. Fortunately, that didn't happen.

I think the blank and disinterested look on Chauvin's face as he kneeled on George Floyd's neck is absolutely bizaare. I think it's bizarre he had his hands in his pockets while he was doing this, and he just looked so incredibly casual and disengaged as he killed George Floyd. As you said, he had a lot of years in under his belt. He could have coasted the rest of his career.

I'm sure we will learn a lot more as time goes on.

 

[Charlot123]

BBM

So far, all we know about their work relationship is that they “butted heads” because of how Chauvin treated customers. (link somewhere in thread) I think knowing more than this is a key to Chauvin’s actions.

George Floyd’s name wasn’t mentioned on the 911 call. Here’s the transcript. It didn’t sound like the clerk knew him. The caller gave such vague answers to the point that the operator sighed at one point.

George Floyd: Minneapolis police release 911 call that led to arrest - CNN

His license plate number is provided, though. So if Chauvin knew it, could have been enough. Could be a coincidence, of course.

 

[Charlot123]

I feel there is something that is missing that we don't know about yet with respect to Chauvin. I can't find the article right now, but I read that Chauvin's wife filed for divorce the day before George Floyd was killed. I don't know for a fact that is correct, but if it is, it might go to your theory of there being some messed up perfect storm that made Chauvin turn into such an idiot. And a deadly one at that.

From my own personal experience, I had divorce papers served on my now ex years ago. Suffice it to say, he did far more than what was necessary to lead any reasonably intelligent woman to come to the conclusion that she had no choice but to terminate the marriage. His reaction was extreme anger, to the point of being in a rage. At the time, I was worried some random person might get caught in his crosshairs while he was in his rage. Fortunately, that didn't happen.

I think the blank and disinterested look on Chauvin's face as he kneeled on George Floyd's neck is absolutely bizaare. I think it's bizarre he had his hands in his pockets while he was doing this, and he just looked so incredibly casual and disengaged as he killed George Floyd. As you said, he had a lot of years in under his belt. He could have coasted the rest of his career.

I'm sure we will learn a lot more as time goes on.

I had the feeling that he was dissociating, I think I even wrote it.

I never knew she filed before Chauvin was killed, though. I thought it was the day after,

We don’t know how Chauvin was in the family. Could have been as rude as everywhere else, or could have worked two jobs for that family. Who knows?

 

[molly1255]

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So far, all we know about their work relationship is that they “butted heads” because of how Chauvin treated customers. (link somewhere in thread) I think knowing more than this is a key to Chauvin’s actions.

George Floyd’s name wasn’t mentioned on the 911 call. Here’s the transcript. It didn’t sound like the clerk knew him. The caller gave such vague answers to the point that the operator sighed at one point.

George Floyd: Minneapolis police release 911 call that led to arrest - CNN

Thank you so much, Lilibet, for answering both of my questions. I've tried to follow this closely, but my city was hit very hard by peaceful protests that turned to violence and during the violence, there was a senseless murder. My 88 year old father was so upset by what happened to George Floyd and also by the violence we had in our city that he had a heart incident the other day, so I'm trying to stay calm until we can get him into a good cardiologist and am praying he didn't suffer another heart attack. I'm catching up here and on the Internet when I can.

 

[molly1255]

I had the feeling that he was dissociating, I think I even wrote it.

I never knew she filed before Chauvin was killed, though. I thought it was the day after,

We don’t know how Chauvin was in the family. Could have been as rude as everywhere else, or could have worked two jobs for that family. Who knows?

He may have been. He certainly didn't seem to be concerned about the consequences of what he was doing. He looked almost robotic from my perception, hands in the pockets, no real expression on his face. Very strange. I don't know for a fact she filed the day before. I just read that somewhere. I've also read she filed the day after. If it turns out she filed the day after, my thoughts are that the marriage was in trouble. IMO, if a woman loves, respects and trusts her husband, she'll very often try to defend him. This lady has not done that. All JMO.

 

[mickey2942]

@molly1255 I definitely would never give Chauvin a "pass" on his behavior. He is responsible for killing a man, with no justification or reason. Four officers were more than sufficient to subdue a man who was already handcuffed.

His wife filed for divorce the day after he was arrested. I have no doubt that the marriage was probably over by then.

There is something more. I agree. His actions were nonsensical.

 

[sds71]

Just four days after the death of George Floyd, and the day before former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin was arrested, federal and state prosecutors were negotiating a possible plea deal with Chauvin, the FOX 9 Investigators have learned.

Sources familiar with the scuttled negotiations say it would have been a “universal deal” that would have included state murder charges as well as federal civil rights charges.
Those intense negotiations delayed a previously announced press conference on Thursday, May 28, by nearly two hours.
Ex-Minneapolis police officer Chauvin was in talks to plead guilty before arrest

 

[mickey2942]

Ex-Minneapolis police officer Chauvin was in talks to plead guilty before arrest

Interesting, that Chauvin changed attorney, after these talks.

 

[sds71]

Chauvin’s legal representation is being provided by the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association (MPPOA) which draws from a panel of about a dozen attorneys, which includes both Nelson and the lawyer he replaced, Tom Kelly of Kelly & Jacobson.
Kelly told Reuters he gave up the case for medical-related reasons. The case was assigned to him by the association, which provides legal services to Minnesota’s police, because he was the on-call attorney at the time of Chauvin’s arrest, Kelly said. ..
Exclusive: Former police officer accused of killing George Floyd gets new lawyer

 

[Bravo]

Thank you so much, Lilibet, for answering both of my questions. I've tried to follow this closely, but my city was hit very hard by peaceful protests that turned to violence and during the violence, there was a senseless murder. My 88 year old father was so upset by what happened to George Floyd and also by the violence we had in our city that he had a heart incident the other day, so I'm trying to stay calm until we can get him into a good cardiologist and am praying he didn't suffer another heart attack. I'm catching up here and on the Internet when I can.

So very sorry. I hope your Father has a good report.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

According to this article many Minneapolis police officers moonlight.

New Task Force To Examine Off-Duty Work By Minneapolis Police Officers

 

[mickey2942]

According to this article many Minneapolis police officers moonlight.

New Task Force To Examine Off-Duty Work By Minneapolis Police Officers

Years ago, another Department investigated the same thing, and found that often, the "2nd job" was nothing more than a front for a shake down for police protection, often for businesses that were known for drug deals, prostitution. The "2nd job" was more like a payment for police to come fast if needed, and look the other way most of the time.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Having a another house in very posh Windemere Florida is maybe a lot of wealth for a policeman.

I thought I read that his soon to be exwife was a real estate agent?

We have two daughters in this profession, and they easily make high 6 figures each year.

So perhaps his wife found the property in Florida. If her credit rating was good, and his, I think they easily could afford two homes.

Also many who buy homes in Florida rent it out part of the year. That also brings in additional income.

Our daughters, and their husbands own several homes they rent out part of the year or rent fulltime.

Our daughter in Charleston is also married to a real estate agent.

So if she is a real estate agent, I can see why they would be able to own two homes.

Jmho

 

[SouthAussie]

According to this article many Minneapolis police officers moonlight.

New Task Force To Examine Off-Duty Work By Minneapolis Police Officers

And Chauvin was not the only off-duty officer working at El Nuevo Rodeo.

....... there were often a couple dozen security guards, including off-duty officers.
George Floyd, fired officer overlapped security shifts at south Minneapolis club

 

[sds71]

Chauvin testified at a January 2010 license hearing for El Nuevo Rodeo. Page 23.

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups/public/@council/documents/webcontent/convert_263851.pdf




https://twitter.com/BatKat77

 

[Boxer]

I thought I read that his soon to be exwife was a real estate agent?

We have two daughters in this profession, and they easily make high 6 figures each year.

So perhaps his wife found the property in Florida. If her credit rating was good, and his, I think they easily could afford two homes.

Also many who buy homes in Florida rent it out part of the year. That also brings in additional income.

Our daughters, and their husbands own several homes they rent out part of the year or rent fulltime.

Our daughter in Charleston is also married to a real estate agent.

So if she is a real estate agent, I can see why they would be able to own two homes.

Jmho

Yes, could be. His falsely using the property as a residence to vote adds questions about all of his dealings.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Chauvin testified at a January 2010 license hearing for El Nuevo Rodeo. Page 23.

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups/public/@council/documents/webcontent/convert_263851.pdf

Businesses can change significantly in a decade. It would be interesting to know what types of complaints El Nuevo Rodeo had in the last few years.