MN - George Floyd, 46, unarmed, killed in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 *arrests* #2

[mickey2942]

Yes, it normally is 10 percent to the bonding agent. (Money that isn't returned).

Probably safer in custody, but I bet he doesn't agree. Plus his wife has started divorce proceedings, which complicates money issues. moo

The union in Dallas put up the funds for Amber Guyger. Wonder why the union hasn't helped Chauvin out?

 

[nightowl1975]

I think the guy who wanted to roll George on his side might get a lighter sentence than the others.

Also, I wonder if the drugs that were in George's system were prescribed for medical reasons since his roommate said he was not a druggie.

Perhaps the fentanyl was prescribed, though I doubt it. But the meth definitely wasn’t prescribed. I don’t know that it matters either way, prescribed or not, drugs or not. There’s zero doubt in my mind that these officers contributed significantly to the death of this man. They don’t have to be the SOLE cause of death to be liable.

 

[Gardenista]

Perhaps the fentanyl was prescribed, though I doubt it. But the meth definitely wasn’t prescribed. I don’t know that it matters either way, prescribed or not, drugs or not. There’s zero doubt in my mind that these officers contributed significantly to the death of this man. They don’t have to be the SOLE cause of death to be liable.

The drugs only matter to me to shut people up who are calling him a druggie. Couldn't the meth just be Adderall that was prescribed by a doc?

 

[Gardenista]

The union in Dallas put up the funds for Amber Guyger. Wonder why the union hasn't helped Chauvin out?

Oh, they said they are going to. It's posted upthread.

 

[Jax49]

Wow. Bail for each is 1 million.

George Floyd: Derek Chauvin murder charge upgraded; 3 cops charged

 

[nightowl1975]

The drugs only matter to me to shut people up who are calling him a druggie. Couldn't the meth just be Adderall that was prescribed by a doc?

Adderall would show positive for amphetamines but not methamphetamines from my understanding of drug tests (which is fairly limited).

 

[nightowl1975]

Oh, they said they are going to. It's posted upthread.

Is this part of the union contract? You pay these union dues and we will post your bond if you’re arrested for something during the course of performing your job duties? Does the union have a choice here? Just curious.

 

[Gardenista]

Is this part of the union contract? You pay these union dues and we will post your bond if you’re arrested for something during the course of performing your job duties? Does the union have a choice here? Just curious.

IDK.

 

[mickey2942]

Charges upgraded against former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin in George Floyd death

Murder 2, is that you meant to kill someone. Murder 3 is that you didn't mean to kill someone, but they died.

Gotta say, Chauvin is a jerk, and an idiot. I think that he didn't care if Floyd died. He got away with so much before, he thought he could get away with anything.

I don't think that he meant to kill Floyd, but he didn't care. If I was making a decision, I could go murder 2.

 

[Charlot123]

Adderall would show positive for amphetamines but not methamphetamines from my understanding of drug tests (which is fairly limited).

Yes, even in a regular urine screening they would give different responses, as to qualitative testing, definitely, different.

 

[Charlot123]

The drugs only matter to me to shut people up who are calling him a druggie. Couldn't the meth just be Adderall that was prescribed by a doc?

It doesn’t matter. Addict or no addict, no one deserves such treatment in the hands of the police. 3 million US citizens have opioid use disorder, officially.

 

[Keefer]

Charges upgraded against former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin in George Floyd death

Murder 2, is that you meant to kill someone. Murder 3 is that you didn't mean to kill someone, but they died.

Gotta say, Chauvin is a jerk, and an idiot. I think that he didn't care if Floyd died. He got away with so much before, he thought he could get away with anything.

I don't think that he meant to kill Floyd, but he didn't care. If I was making a decision, I could go murder 2.

Oh he meant to kill him alright. Anyone with any training at all in this technique knows that once someone passes out you simply do not continue to apply pressure because they can suffer brain damage or die.

 

[Charlot123]

Good to see the mug shots. The one on the far right looks like he hasn't slept in a week. That's a shame/s.

Lane. The one who asked to move Floyd to the side. Maybe he has some degree of conscience.

 

[Niner]

Thursday, June 4th:
*Initial Appearance Hearing – (@ 12:45pm CT) - MN – George Floyd (46) (May 25, 2020, Minneapolis, arrested for forgery & killed in police custody) – for Tou Thao (34), Thomas Kiernan Lane (37), & J. Alexander Kueng (26) were fired (5/26/20), arrested & charged (6/3/20) with aiding & abetting 2nd degree murder-unintentional-while committing a felony & aiding & abetting 2nd degree manslaughter-culpable negligence creating unreasonable risk. Bond set at $1M for all.
6/3/20 Update: Other officers were arrested & charged with aiding & abetting 2nd degree Murder-unintentional-while committing a felony & aiding & abetting 2nd degree manslaughter-culpable negligence creating unreasonable risk. All have been arrested (6/3/20) & bond set at $1M for all. Initial appearance hearing set for 6/4/20 for Thao, Lane & Kueng.
*Derek Michael Chauvin (44) police officer who held his knee on Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes & 46 seconds (& non responsive for 2 minutes & 53 seconds before officer took his knee off his neck; from 8:19pm to 8:27pm his knee was on Floyd’s neck) has been fired (5/26/20) & arrested & charged (5/29/20) with 3rd degree murder & 2nd degree manslaughter. Charges changed (6/3/20) to 2nd degree murder-unintentional-while committing a felony, 3rd degree murder-perpetrating eminently dangerous act & evincing depraved mind & 2nd degree manslaughter-culpable negligence creating unreasonable risk. $500K bond, reset (6/3/20) @ $1M.
5/29/20 Update: Officer Derek Chauvin has been taken into custody by state authorities. Was due in court on Monday, June 1, has been pushed to June 8th. 6/1/20 Update: The Hennepin County Medical Examiner's report released Monday declares the death of George Floyd as a homicide, writing that he died of "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual restraint, and neck compression." The updated report states that George Floyd died from a loss of blood flow due to compression on his neck while being restrained by Minneapolis police & changed to a homicide.
5/31/20 moved to Hennepin County jail & just hours later, he was moved to a department of corrections maximum security facility in Oak Park Heights / Hennepin County.
6/3/20 Update: Charges for Chauvin have been changed to 2nd degree murder-unintentional-while committing a felony, 3rd degree murder-perpetrating eminently dangerous act & evincing depraved mind & 2nd degree manslaughter-culpable negligence creating unreasonable risk. Bond has been changed to $1M.

 

[LadyL]

Witness Who Was in Floyd’s Car Says His Friend Did Not Resist Arrest

 

[Charlot123]

I want to raise an issue that may be pertinent in all discussions of police brutality.

Point prevalence of depression varies from one study to another (approximately 13% in many), but whatever it is, I have no reason to believe it is less in the police or the army.

Yet current attitude to diagnosing and treating mental illness in active duty cops and the military system is exceptionally restrictive.

What happens is, we give these people guns, train them, basically, give them license to protect the society, and effectively prevent them from any treatment of the same mental issues that we, civilians, take care of.

I think the problem in the police is not their (equal, I can bet, to any other societal stratum) rate of mental illness. I think it is the prevalence of untreated mental illness among them.

Looking at Chauvin, I can only guess what he has. My guess would be, alcohol abuse and possibly.
thyroid issues. But maybe something else caused his impaired judgment? Because morals aside, what idiot would be standing on the apprehended person’s neck, in full public view, for nine minutes, despite all witnesses taking videos?

Tao, who obviously enjoyed beating up arrested subjects.., what does it tell you?

And then, Kueng, am I not mistaken that he was the second one standing of Mr. Floyd?

Is it only their cruelty, or our restrictive policy, essentially, prohibiting police from seeking mental help that ends up in high indices of police brutality?

If we just view them as four rotten apples, it is bound to repeat again.

 

[ilovewings]

Thinking this over, I'm still PO'd he didn't get 1st degree. LEO knew George didn't have a pulse and CPR could have saved him.

 

[ilovewings]

I am sure you all noted tbat George Floyd was saying he couldnt breathe before he went down to the ground- i wondered why he was having a problem breathing before he went down to the ground---now we know why---'the autopsy revealed he had corona virus - so it is even more unconscionable that those officers were aware he was having problems breathingbefore officer Chauvin kept his knee firmly planted on his neck for 9 minutes---
i think the prosecution will raise that issue during the trial-- which makes Chauvin's
horrible behavior even more egregious

 

[MajorHoople]

George Floyd autopsy report reveals he had tested positive for coronavirus | Daily Mail Online

My apologies if this has already been posted.

"George Floyd's final autopsy report has revealed the 46-year-old had tested positive for coronavirus, but died from 'cardiopulmonary arrest' following his altercation with a Minneapolis police officer last Monday.

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office released its official findings on Wednesday which showed Floyd was diagnosed with Covid-19 on April 3.

The report notes that the positive result is likely from an old infection and it is believed the father-of-two was asymptomatic at the time of his death.

'The decedent was known to be positive for 2019-nCoV RNA on 4/3/2020. Since PCR positivity for 2019-nCoV RNA can persist for weeks after the onset and resolution of clinical disease, the autopsy result most likely reflects asymptomatic but persistent PCR positivity from previous infection,' the report states."

 

[tmar]

Perhaps before George Floyd couldn't breathe, he did breathe heavily onto the Cop who harmed him.


George Floyd tested positive for COVID-19, according to his autopsy

George Floyd tested positive for COVID-19, according to his autopsy

Rosie Perper
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• An autopsy on George Floyd conducted by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office states that Floyd tested positive for COVID-19. However, it did not cite COVID-19 as a factor in his death.
• According to KSTP, the medical examiner's office and Floyd's family agreed to release his full autopsy on Wednesday.
• Andrew Baker, the chief medical examiner, commented in the autopsy that Floyd tested positive for the virus on April 3 and that a positive result postmortem "likely reflects asymptomatic but persistent" positive result from his previous infection.