MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #10

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  • #741
Human, now you've got me wondering -- I have seen sketches of a suspect in Jacob's case, but what's frustrating is that they all look a little different to me. And most of them look like any number of older males. It's a bit confusing because I think sometimes the same sketches are put out there for both cases. I was just reviewing this link to read about the cases again (for the zillionth time). To the moderator, if I'm not allowed to put a link here for informational purposes, please just redact it for me. Thanks!! http://saintautumn.wordpress.com/
 
  • #742
At the above referenced link, check out the similarity between the suspect sketch all the way to the right (gotta go down the page to find it) and Fran Hoefgen former monk at St. John's. wow
 
  • #743
Human, I totally agree with you. I think it's strange and *not* a coincidence. Of all the religious institutions in the area, he shows up?? What religion do (or did) the Wetterlings ascribe to? I don't think it was Catholic? Is DR Catholic?
 
  • #744
DR's parents are Catholic. He teaches at St. john's so he certainly has interactions with plenty of priests.

DR's father apparently attends Mass everyday, so I imagine the family had lots of interaction with the church.

Jerry is Baha'i and Patty is Lutheran, I think.
 
  • #745
I would hereby compare the priests acts to Jerry Sandusky. They are neither killers nor abductors, just open prowling monsters who manipulate their victims for years. The connection to Jacob is hard to make at this time.
 
  • #746
I think the suspect would be Jared's.

I don't see how there could be a drawing of Jacob's suspect.

Because LE felt in 1989 that Jared's and Jacob's abductions were related, they had Jared help draw a sketch with what he remembered from his abductor. That photo was used for Jacob's suspect drawing - the guy with the hat. The older balding guy is the guy who was seen in Tom Thumb the night of Jacob's abduction, and was also seen in some similar stores in Avon.

At one point, LE had several sketches of the blading man combined as one sketch, that's why there are so many.
 
  • #747
I would hereby compare the priests acts to Jerry Sandusky. They are neither killers nor abductors, just open prowling monsters who manipulate their victims for years. The connection to Jacob is hard to make at this time.

Well, we don't really know for sure that no priests/monks are killers or abductors. I take it you're saying you don't feel it's likely? I think it's possible because of Josh Guimond.
 
  • #748
Well, we don't really know for sure that no priests/monks are killers or abductors. I take it you're saying you don't feel it's likely? I think it's possible because of Josh Guimond.

Do any of the rapes, molestations, sexual assaults by the priests coincide with a case of a boy who suddenly vanished without a trace? I dont think there is any correlation there.
 
  • #749
The monks were never required to account for their travels throughout the community. This includes all the sex offenders who were supposed to be confined to the grounds. There was no one supervising them. Alibis? They never even checked the alibis of these sex offenders in the Guimond case. What are the possibilities of any connection to the Wetterling case? There is most definitely a possibility. Why? Because the surrounding community was their territory. Did any of them have guns? How is it possible to know, when they were never investigated, never required to account for their activities. What went on at the cabins and rural properties owned by the abbey/church? Some really bad stuff we know about and most likely more bad stuff we don't know about (yet). Only after being pressured the sheriff finally sought a warrant to check out the abbey days (weeks?) after Joshua went missing. But the abbey was not about to allow the law inside without a warrant. Being so holy and all. Are all sex offenders violent? No, but many are. These monks are no different from other sex offenders who prey upon vulnerable young people. What would make you think for a moment they wouldn't employ the same methods to subdue their victims that any other criminal would? Because they're holier than thou? Me thinks not.
 
  • #750
Excellent Phantom!

The fact that a search warrant was required by this loving organization makes me sick.

Sher talked about how neighbors of the Wetterlings were searched so often they gave LE the keys to their property.

It makes me positively ill!!!

There must be some decent ones among them who know something and will tell.

It just takes one!
 
  • #751
The monks were never required to account for their travels throughout the community. This includes all the sex offenders who were supposed to be confined to the grounds. There was no one supervising them. Alibis? They never even checked the alibis of these sex offenders in the Guimond case. What are the possibilities of any connection to the Wetterling case? There is most definitely a possibility. Why? Because the surrounding community was their territory. Did any of them have guns? How is it possible to know, when they were never investigated, never required to account for their activities. What went on at the cabins and rural properties owned by the abbey/church? Some really bad stuff we know about and most likely more bad stuff we don't know about (yet). Only after being pressured the sheriff finally sought a warrant to check out the abbey days (weeks?) after Joshua went missing. But the abbey was not about to allow the law inside without a warrant. Being so holy and all. Are all sex offenders violent? No, but many are. These monks are no different from other sex offenders who prey upon vulnerable young people. What would make you think for a moment they wouldn't employ the same methods to subdue their victims that any other criminal would? Because they're holier than thou? Me thinks not.

Have one of the priests murdered or still harboring Jacob and Josh? I guess we should find out.
 
  • #752
DR is only a POI. It could be because he knows about things with priests.
 
  • #753
DR is only a POI. It could be because he knows about things with priests.

Have they given us an indication that DR is helping this case?
 
  • #754
I don't know about helping. Maybe he is an accomplice?
 
  • #755
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What could DR have seen or know in a scenario like this, that we ourselves can't know yet? Is it almost impossible to come up with something? Brainstorm some ideas and show why we cant know as well.
 
  • #756
It has been stated before that the parents were out of the US.

We do not know how often that happened--the parents being gone.

I imagine leaving a farm, especially a dairy farm, is not that easy. Perhaps they had retired by that time. Who knows.

DR has a special friend over.

The special friend is very interested in young boys.

The special friend came by an unobserved way. Not by the road. Probably through a back way.
 
  • #757
It has been stated before that the parents were out of the US.

We do not know how often that happened--the parents being gone.

I imagine leaving a farm, especially a dairy farm, is not that easy. Perhaps they had retired by that time. Who knows.

DR has a special friend over.

The special friend is very interested in young boys.

The special friend came by an unobserved way. Not by the road. Probably through a back way.

Human,

Are you being serious? So one thing you are admitting is that DR is lying completely in order to cover the abductor.
 
  • #758
Maybe the special friend drove away in DR's car. Maybe DR then used the parent's car to go to work,etc.

Maybe it was noticed years later that DR was driving his parents' car in the days after the abduction.

Maybe the special friend came to DR's a few days later and DR drove him home
 
  • #759
Human,

Are you being serious? So one thing you are admitting is that DR is lying completely in order to cover the abductor.

You wanted scenarios. So here is one.

He would be lying to cover up a couple of things.

Maybe he never lied. He said that he did not do it. He did not say that he doesn't know who did it, did,he ever?
 
  • #760
You wanted scenarios. So here is one.

He would be lying to cover up a couple of things.

Maybe he never lied. He said that he did not do it. He did not say that he doesn't know who did it, did,he ever?

That is likely the best and only scenario.
 
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