MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #13

[Jbrown324320]

I found it in 2011 in a Topix thread.

 

[KeepHopeAlive]

Not EVERYONE played hockey. Overstatement. Many people in the area did.
The abduction could have been done by a priest as indicated by the rumors that indicate "Jacob was a favorite at the Abbey" . I am not sure if we can ever find out if a priest did it since so many people in power in the area including priests, attys, the sheriff, church members are covering for them and refuse to investigate them as suspects.

I have read that before as well, but I don't recall where.

 

[scotgirl]

Urgh i find it such a disgusting thought that they saw Jacob as a 'favourite'

 

[Trackergd]

All of these pictures I am posting are from the video that has been previously linked here.


This is the type sneaker that Jacob was wearing Note the specific pattern and how the sole has a pattern all the way down it.


This is a shot of Jacobs last print, directly in front of the tire tread mark. No where in the visible print field beyond the tire print do we see any additional prints from this shoe pattern.


This is a close up of the toe portion of the print. Note the mounding around the front of the print and the small stones. The mounding ends at the tire print suggesting that the rear tire rolled over the mounding that would have extended further. The white stone in the car tire print has been forced into the ground, but by only one tire, not both. This was a stone roll from the mounding on Jacobs print.


The print with the red arrow is Jacobs. Who's print is identified by the blue arrow? It is a ribbed pattern crepe sole. Odd that it does not appear to be from a normal pair of shoes of that era. It does not have an individual heel such as a police or fire boot or shoe would have. Think flip-flop sole on a shoe and you get the idea. Very odd as I would not expect LE or Search teams to be wearing that type of shoe. The individual came into the print with a heavy heel, then pushed off with their toe and created the disturbance in the center where the arch would be. Note Jacobs print again. It is toe deep and heel light indicating he was on his right front half of the shoe when the print was made, and the depth and mounding indicate force. I cannot get a good view of the left print which appears to be all toe and digging in (below the red arrow). This indicates leaning forward with all his weight.....but the million dollar question. Where are his prints leading up to these? I am guessing carried here, put down and pulled into a car......BUT other scenario's are possible.

 

[Sasquatch321]

Is the blue arrow really confirming a footprint, it is an odd pattern there. The complete void of any activity as shown by the gray lines is disturbing to me.

 

[Ifollowthis]

I have read that before as well, but I don't recall where.

I remember hearing that way back immediately after the kidnapping, along with statements that Patty was an occasional tutor at ST Johns......heard it way before Internet existed....but have not heard that for years.....I would have had to hear it on TV or radio or have read it in the paper, but could be a rumor.

 

[Trackergd]

Is the blue arrow really confirming a footprint, it is an odd pattern there. The complete void of any activity as shown by the gray lines is disturbing to me.

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I agree. The only other print nearby is the odd crepe sole. This is almost like a "hush puppy" type shoe if I had to take a wild guess... Not something an outdoorsman or military type would wear.

 

[Jbrown324320]

I was saying Jacob was rumored to have been taken to the Abbey after the abduction. What if it isn't just a rumor?

What I am trying to discuss here is the possibility of a child sex ring operating in or near the Abbey location. A few people have said they have seen monks do some sort of rituals or cult like behavior (Josh G's grandpa and the bail bond agent). Maybe there was some sort of sick group operating and the members know what happened? One possible member of the group-Vern Seitz. Has anyone seen any of the pictures found in Vern's place or seen the pictures that were developed by the slides found? Where was he staying in MN for two weeks during the time of Jacob's kidnapping? Have they done DNA testing on any of the hair or bones found? It's quite frustrating to keep all the possible child abduction evidence secret by the police.

 

[human]

This was a municipal arena, which it still is. I don't think there would have been volunteer monks working there. Driving a zamboni takes a lot of knowledge - back then and now. Also, clearing a sheet of ice isn't that easy. As to a janitor, usually at a rink/arena, the zamboni driver does it all. He is an employee. (I played hockey back then.)

I am assuming that you are a female as you referred to your husband in a past post. Or perhaps not. I do not mean to assume or offend.

Could anyone recognize a child at a tryout? They would not be wearing jerseys with their names on them, would they because they were only trying out for a team and would not have a name jersey?

The goalies wore masks. Did the other children wear helmets?

Did girls have their own team or were they mixed in with the boys?

I am curious if a child could be identified on the ice.

 

[human]

I believe LE lost the scent soon after the driveway. As to the Abbey, there is no verification J was a favorite or was ever there. J's parents were heavily involved in his life. J would not have been there alone. Topix is Topix, not something that has been verified.

Yes.Jacob's family is a family that did all kinds of activities TOGETHER. Just look at the fun things they did on that fateful Sunday.

Why would Jacob be at the Abbey? The family is not Catholic.

Crazy talk made by people who know zero .

 

[human]

I was saying Jacob was rumored to have been taken to the Abbey after the abduction. What if it isn't just a rumor?

What I am trying to discuss here is the possibility of a child sex ring operating in or near the Abbey location. A few people have said they have seen monks do some sort of rituals or cult like behavior (Josh G's grandpa and the bail bond agent). Maybe there was some sort of sick group operating and the members know what happened? One possible member of the group-Vern Seitz. Has anyone seen any of the pictures found in Vern's place or seen the pictures that were developed by the slides found? Where was he staying in MN for two weeks during the time of Jacob's kidnapping? Have they done DNA testing on any of the hair or bones found? It's quite frustrating to keep all the possible child abduction evidence secret by the police.

Where is the documentation he was staying in MN?

I have made the drive from MN to Milwaukee many many times. It is not an easy drive.

I wonder what the highway was like then?

There are only hundreds of trucks going to Chicago. Constant road construction.

 

[human]

I agree. The only other print nearby is the odd crepe sole. This is almost like a "hush puppy" type shoe if I had to take a wild guess... Not something an outdoorsman or military type would wear.

Perfect shoe for a geeky teacher.

 

[human]

I remember hearing that way back immediately after the kidnapping, along with statements that Patty was an occasional tutor at ST Johns......heard it way before Internet existed....but have not heard that for years.....I would have had to hear it on TV or radio or have read it in the paper, but could be a rumor.

I believe Patty was trained as a math teacher. They had four children.

She volunteered at St. John's prep? Where is that info?

 

[human]

I was saying Jacob was rumored to have been taken to the Abbey after the abduction. What if it isn't just a rumor?

What I am trying to discuss here is the possibility of a child sex ring operating in or near the Abbey location. A few people have said they have seen monks do some sort of rituals or cult like behavior (Josh G's grandpa and the bail bond agent). Maybe there was some sort of sick group operating and the members know what happened? One possible member of the group-Vern Seitz. Has anyone seen any of the pictures found in Vern's place or seen the pictures that were developed by the slides found? Where was he staying in MN for two weeks during the time of Jacob's kidnapping? Have they done DNA testing on any of the hair or bones found? It's quite frustrating to keep all the possible child abduction evidence secret by the police.

Why would some group take a child like Jacob when there are vulnerable children all over? Look at all of the people on here such as the Bah--- family filled with child sex abuse.

 

[shergal]

Yes.Jacob's family is a family that did all kinds of activities TOGETHER. Just look at the fun things they did on that fateful Sunday.

Why would Jacob be at the Abbey? The family is not Catholic.

Crazy talk made by people who know zero .

IMO, Jacob and his friends rode their bikes all over this small safe town. When his missing poster first came out, my husband recognized him as one of the kids who used to come to the park in St. Joe and watch the local RC flying club fly their planes. (The group had permission to fly there in the late 80's.) Hubby said all these young boys on bikes were constantly talking with the club members and asking for a chance to fly their planes. So these kids were not as closely supervised as some seem to think. It was a small town and before Jacob was taken, parents felt very safe letting their kids ride all over.

I don't think it's a stretch that the boys would have biked to St. John's, there are quiet back roads that go there, in addition to the highway. There's a huge lake for swimming, a picnic area, and that intriguing path that winds through the woods around the lake out to the Stella Maris chapel.
http://www.csbsju.edu/sju-archives/s...llamarischapel

 

[thenotebook]

What if it was a hockey coach, or a parent of one of the other hockey players?

 

[human]

IMO, Jacob and his friends rode their bikes all over this small safe town. When his missing poster first came out, my husband recognized him as one of the kids who used to come to the park in St. Joe and watch the local RC flying club fly their planes. (The group had permission to fly there in the late 80's.) Hubby said all these young boys on bikes were constantly talking with the club members and asking for a chance to fly their planes. So these kids were not as closely supervised as some seem to think. It was a small town and before Jacob was taken, parents felt very safe letting their kids ride all over.

I don't think it's a stretch that the boys would have biked to St. John's, there are quiet back roads that go there, in addition to the highway. There's a huge lake for swimming, a picnic area, and that intriguing path that winds through the woods around the lake out to the Stella Maris chapel.
http://www.csbsju.edu/sju-archives/s...llamarischapel

He did not attend the church .

If something ever happened with those monks, wouldn't Jacob's friends mention it?

 

[human]

For some reason people want to go off on some other ideas.

Why are we not researching DR more? A person who has been identified by LE.

Why is that not of tremendous interest?

No stories out there about him? I have heard some. No way to document.

Anyone have any info aside from the sex offender who was his FB friend?

 

[Trino]

I am assuming that you are a female as you referred to your husband in a past post. Or perhaps not. I do not mean to assume or offend.

Could anyone recognize a child at a tryout? They would not be wearing jerseys with their names on them, would they because they were only trying out for a team and would not have a name jersey?

The goalies wore masks. Did the other children wear helmets?

Did girls have their own team or were they mixed in with the boys?

I am curious if a child could be identified on the ice.

Most likely by the way they skated, they could be identified by parents/onlookers who had previous experience with teams. However, there would only be a few goalies, and it was my understanding that J was a goalie.

 

[shergal]

He did not attend the church .

If something ever happened with those monks, wouldn't Jacob's friends mention it?

No, they didn't attend the church. But the abbey is right across the quad from the church and they may have been seen if they rode out there. Or not. Just speculating. Good point that Jacob's friends would have mentioned it. I'm sure someone would have asked Aaron or Trevor if they had been out at St. John's. At least I hope someone asked them.