MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #15

[human]

How many child molesters are people friends with?

I knew some because of my job. Their personalities are icky. Give you the creeps.

 

[Jewelia]

How many child molesters are people friends with?

I knew some because of my job. Their personalities are icky. Give you the creeps.

Well, I shouldn't say "friends", but a lot of teachers didn't have a clue on the one we exposed. Some did, and I think that's how he was forced to resign. But no one called the cops, and he slipped into other schools. In fact, he lead a double life. He was married, and they had parties at their house. He has three daughters (thankfully they were daughters) He only molested boys between ages 7-15. One teacher that worked with him tried to help me find information on him, and actually talked with some of their colleagues. No dice. I finally found what I needed a few days before he was exposed.

He was so charming, he volunteered with Big Brothers. This is how I learned about the 7 year old in the mid 70s. I know about another victim from when he was in Big Brothers....he was 12. Some of his past victims are old enough to be the grandfathers of his current victims. He was so good at his double life, that he took his Big Brother victims to the school he worked for and used their locker rooms and showers to molest his victims. The 12 year old from 1970 told us this....he's now 57.

 

[ELOCsoul]

Aubrey Immelmann placed a nice promo for the book on his website:

http://www.immelman.us/news/new-book-on-jacob-wetterling-abduction-search-and-suspects/

 

[Dum-Dum Sucker]

How many child molesters are people friends with?

I knew some because of my job. Their personalities are icky. Give you the creeps.

I knew some because of my job as well, and I think that you and I worked in the same profession. You're right - their personalities are icky. Give you the creeps.

Our unmarried band teacher got fired and jailed for having the computer in his band office loaded with kiddie . So creepy.

 

[Ifollowthis]

Do you think Mash is a possibility?

MASH who?

 

[Jewelia]

I knew some because of my job as well, and I think that you and I worked in the same profession. You're right - their personalities are icky. Give you the creeps.

Our unmarried band teacher got fired and jailed for having the computer in his band office loaded with kiddie . So creepy.

Look at Jerry Sandusky....He fooled a lot of people, and the people he didn't fool, apparently didn't call the cops for many years. While some of them are noticeably "creepy", many seem to slip though the cracks for many years being unnoticed until they slip up. They intimidate their victims.....tell them they'll kill their parents or siblings, threaten to kill them! This is why so many victims don't talk about it until they're much older; especially boys.

 

[cGorg]

I still don't think it's DR, but not good if he's hanging out with pedophiles at some point in his life. However, the pedophile we exposed knew lots of good people who were clueless that he was a pedophile. His crimes were covered up well. He knows people in high places.

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You know I still have my own suspects in mind, but I have to wonder if they all knew each other. I still think DMs information is good.

Knowing teacher pedophiles, I just don't see it in DR....but he's one heck of an odd ball.

Your previous post is gone now..the reference to the friend....but those of us who saw IT(the actual friend) in real time on WS and FB a long while ago.....we KNOW what we saw.

 

[Jewelia]

I knew some because of my job as well, and I think that you and I worked in the same profession. You're right - their personalities are icky. Give you the creeps.

Our unmarried band teacher got fired and jailed for having the computer in his band office loaded with kiddie . So creepy.

How long was that teacher working there? I hope those teachers that knew who the pedophiles were based on their personalities reported them to authorities. Did you report the pedophiles you knew that worked with kids to school administrators! How many did you know? Did they eventually end up in jail? I hope so.

I can't imagine how many more kids would not be molested if people could decipher which people we're pedophiles based on "personality". The facts are that some people who suspect pedophiles are in their midst, do not say anything----------> this is why teachers go decades before getting caught.

 

[Trackergd]

And to those are saying that DR may know who did it or had someone over that night...then where are the tire tracks for that person?

Respectfully snipped and bolded by me.

The time and effort it would take to wipe and create an entire crime scene print field, or to manipulate an existing one for tire prints precludes it from being done. It would take far longer than the abduction event and would have clues of it's own. What prints were in the driveway and surrounding grass and woods, was the entire story like an open book...and more than enough forensic evidence to point in a particular direction. Question is, was it all properly documented and still available for evaluation?

 

[Sasquatch321]

Respectfully snipped and bolded by me.

The time and effort it would take to wipe and create an entire crime scene print field, or to manipulate an existing one for tire prints precludes it from being done. It would take far longer than the abduction event and would have clues of it's own. What prints were in the driveway and surrounding grass and woods, was the entire story like an open book...and more than enough forensic evidence to point in a particular direction. Question is, was it all properly documented and still available for evaluation?

LE said they were able to capture at least one of Jacobs footprints. I would assume that LE trampled over the rest, which resulted in losing the perp prints altogether. I think an entire vehicle and its tracks were missed as well.

 

[JerseyJo]

Afraid I don't have much to offer in the way of information. So I will throw out a question instead.

Does anyone have ay thoughts on the "older, balding, gray-haired man" seen in the woods with the "station wagon" that had "wood panels", possibly on the day of Jacob's abduction, referenced in Joys most recent blog? She indicated this individual may have been involved in another abduction. Again if true, seems like a very good lead that LE may have overlooked.

I do have one comment regarding the claim that the boys were fondled by the abductor. If in fact true...unbelievably bold and brazen. That would be like a bank robber taking the time to examine money and only take the newest crispiest hundred dollar bills rather than grab the available cash and run. Not being from the area, was the abduction sight THAT desolate back in 1989? Did the perp know that the odds were so stacked in his favor that he could take his sweet time choosing his victim with no chance whatsoever of anyone passing by???

 

[Sasquatch321]

Afraid I don't have much to offer in the way of information. So I will throw out a question instead.

Does anyone have ay thoughts on the "older, balding, gray-haired man" seen in the woods with the "station wagon" that had "wood panels", possibly on the day of Jacob's abduction, referenced in Joys most recent blog? She indicated this individual may have been involved in another abduction. Again if true, seems like a very good lead that LE may have overlooked.

I do have one comment regarding the claim that the boys were fondled by the abductor. If in fact true...unbelievably bold and brazen. That would be like a bank robber taking the time to examine money and only take the newest crispiest hundred dollar bills rather than grab the available cash and run. Not being from the area, was the abduction sight THAT desolate back in 1989? Did the perp know that the odds were so stacked in his favor that he could take his sweet time choosing his victim with no chance whatsoever of anyone passing by???

It was not desolate as I had thought before ever going to visit the site myself. The farm next door has a straight shot view of the driveway. If someone on that farm had been looking out the window they would have seen the abductor drive in and park his vehicle.

 

[shergal]

It was not desolate as I had thought before ever going to visit the site myself. The farm next door has a straight shot view of the driveway. If someone on that farm had been looking out the window they would have seen the abductor drive in and park his vehicle.

I think you're discounting distance, that farm south of Rassier's farm is a good 3 blocks away and it was pitch black out. So even if someone was outside or looking out a window, they would have seen at most, car lights pulling into a driveway and being turned off. Since area neighbors were used to various party types parking all over to go in the woods, I doubt anyone would have thought anything of it.

 

[Sasquatch321]

I think you're discounting distance, that farm south of Rassier's farm is a good 3 blocks away and it was pitch black out. So even if someone was outside or looking out a window, they would have seen at most, car lights pulling into a driveway and being turned off. Since area neighbors were used to various party types parking all over to go in the woods, I doubt anyone would have thought anything of it.

3 blocks is playing it safe. It doesnt matter that they would know why someone did it, it would later confirm that a vehicle was most likely used. Someone could have seen and heard this happen in the area it happened.

 

[Sasquatch321]

The distance from driveway to driveway is 0.3 mile. If someone was outside or looking out the window from the farm next door, they could have confirmed a vehicle drove in and turned their lights off near the time of the abduction.

 

[Trino]

IF someone was outside or looking out the window. IF not, well, it's very possible. How often do posters look out their windows at night? I can say I really don't very often, and I'm also very rarely outside at night.

 

[Sasquatch321]

IF someone was outside or looking out the window. IF not, well, it's very possible. How often do posters look out their windows at night? I can say I really don't very often, and I'm also very rarely outside at night.

It's a farm. Dogs, cats, cows, humans alert themselves or others to sounds or visions around them. Any typical farmer will tell you they work 12 to 16 hour days, especially dairy. I would just say its not easy to go unnoticed in the particular area, the abductor in his vehicle was brave to do so.

 

[human]

How long was that teacher working there? I hope those teachers that knew who the pedophiles were based on their personalities reported them to authorities. Did you report the pedophiles you knew that worked with kids to school administrators! How many did you know? Did they eventually end up in jail? I hope so.

I can't imagine how many more kids would not be molested if people could decipher which people we're pedophiles based on "personality". The facts are that some people who suspect pedophiles are in their midst, do not say anything----------> this is why teachers go decades before getting caught.

The only way you can guess someone is a pedophile is if they do something. Most pedos are not molesting in front of their coworkers.

The janitor at the school I taught at was busted by having cameras installed and watching him. He was totally disgusting in his personality. Controlling to the max and denigrating.

I just knew he was a nasty person

 

[human]

LE said they were able to capture at least one of Jacobs footprints. I would assume that LE trampled over the rest, which resulted in losing the perp prints altogether. I think an entire vehicle and its tracks were missed as well.

Really? The driveway was how long? All of the tracks gone? Hard to believe

 

[human]

LE said they were able to capture at least one of Jacobs footprints. I would assume that LE trampled over the rest, which resulted in losing the perp prints altogether. I think an entire vehicle and its tracks were missed as well.

Where did LE say they got only one footprint?