MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #15

[Sasquatch321]

Thinking logically, per me... (sort of posted previously)

I think whoever took J probably was not lying in wait as the boys made their way to the store along the end of a deserted and relatively isolated road. Why would a guy with a stocking over his face and a gun be on a lonely road just be lurking around when he had absolutely no idea any juvenile male would be along? Who would he have been stalking when the Wetterling house wasn't within sight to stalk? Why, if he was there when the boys first passed, did he not accost them then?

I think whoever did this saw the boys as they approached the store from the road, then possibly drove part way and hid until the boys returned. Let us remember the experiment by the university prof who proved it was so dark that students could not see more than a several inches in front of their faces. Hiding a car in such darkness would seem very possible, and the boys may have been too frightened to realize there was a vehicle. Who in 1989 carried a stocking and a gun around if they were on foot? Just my thoughts of what seems to me to be logical.

I will say your theory is good, it was dangerous to go to tom thumb. But DR does have a house full of this stuff, he has something like 8 siblings.

 

[Jewelia]

My thinking: As I know some on here have heard before. :0) I think this was a job for hire. I think there were accomplices-----> The B Brothers. The B brothers were either dropped off in a car prior, or came with the other car arriving near the time of the abduction, the car with LK in it. They hid in the ditch to look for the boys coming down the road, and LK abducted him. There's more to this, but this is the basics. There's a lot more behind it since I believe this was a job for hire, based on what I've learned over the last several months.

I'm not saying this is necessarily true, it just makes sense based on an accumulation of information.

Whoever did this definitely had a car. As you said Trino, who's going to walk around with a Mask and a gun?

I'm not optimistic that LE is working this case as well as they could.

 

[chaplain1]

Who is LK?

 

[tinner007]

Who is LK?

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[shergal]

My thinking: As I know some on here have heard before. :0) I think this was a job for hire. I think there were accomplices-----> The B Brothers. The B brothers were either dropped off in a car prior, or came with the other car arriving near the time of the abduction, the car with LK in it. They hid in the ditch to look for the boys coming down the road, and LK abducted him. There's more to this, but this is the basics. There's a lot more behind it since I believe this was a job for hire, based on what I've learned over the last several months.

I'm not saying this is necessarily true, it just makes sense based on an accumulation of information.

Whoever did this definitely had a car. As you said Trino, who's going to walk around with a Mask and a gun?

I'm not optimistic that LE is working this case as well as they could.

And who are you thinking hired them to do this??

 

[simonsez]

Forensic tests on items taken from that search have yielded no evidence linking them to the crime, but investigators are still testing some items, or waiting for technology to advance so additional testing can be done.

Rassier, who says he is innocent, has not been cleared.

"Is it considered legal for law enforcement to give the public the perception I am guilty of something when I'm not?" Rassier wrote


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/03/dan-rassier-jacob-wetterling-abduction_n_1736816.html

Ask LE if Hollinger has been cleared. The answer will be no.

 

[tinner007]

I tried to find out if MF could have been alone in the area between 8 and 10 and came up unsuccessful. I was told he has an air tight alibi and to just "drop it".

 

[chaplain1]

I think they have some poopy DNA they think could be post cleanup. Doesn't have any markers. But, anyone who catalogs cds has to be very, very clean--so I tend be with other naysayers on what they are keeping.

 

[Jewelia]

And who are you thinking hired them to do this??

I'm not sure yet. I have my suspicions, and if this were to be true, I don't think the county will be the same. I don't want to put who I think may have hired LK, because this part of it has not been investigated yet.

 

[Sasquatch321]

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That doesn't say who he was with after he dropped the kid off, and for how long.

 

[Sasquatch321]

Ask LE if Hollinger has been cleared. The answer will be no.

But did he become a prime suspect before or after 2003?

 

[Jewelia]

I just wanted to make this clear---------->. The B-brother tapes are real. I've read throughout WS forums that there's a lot of speculation on whether of not they were fake. No, they were really interviewed, and at one point, when MB was being recorded, she was wearing a wire while a cop from Wilmer was there, and a private detective. They were in another part of the house.

It's also been published in several areas that the b-brother and LK information was a "Hoax" created by DM to get reward money. There was no reward money, and if there was she didn't know about it. Also, she spent her own time, and her own money over a period of years doing in depth research, investigating, and accumulating documents. I've spent a lot of time with her on the phone, and I wouldn't waste time talking to a "nut". She didn't do this for reward money, and her main purpose was to bring this to the attention to LE. However LE never followed up on the rest of the information, and never told the Bahners they had a recording of them saying they were involved when they interviewed them.

The b-brothers could not have been fully investigated, because LE only saw a portion of the information...a very small portion. DM has conveyed this to them on more than one occasion.

Recently I conveyed this to LE, and I urged them to get to her home to look at the rest. She's not going to haul 5 storage containers to them.

 

[shergal]

Even if the tapes were actually made with good intent, convicted pedophile MB would have more than likely been lying on them, either to save his own skin, or to implicate someone else. When LE has already gone through what DM has offered up previously and found it to be nothing but scratchy recordings where she basically prompts the speaker what to say and he answers with one word, obviously leads him in conversations, and talks over him when he is speaking (if you listen to the tapes already on you tube you can hear this yourself) there's not much point in going through 5 more boxes of the same junk. You can bet she put her "best" stuff on you tube. She and her tapes have been thoroughly investigated by LE - regardless of what she is telling you by phone.

 

[ThePhantom]

Ask LE if Hollinger has been cleared. The answer will be no.

Simonsez, thank you!!! I feel like I'm losing my mind sometimes. Maybe that's the idea -- baffle them with bull$hit for the duration. What's the duration? Forever, if possible.

 

[chaplain1]

But did he become a prime suspect before or after 2003?

Hollinger, DR, and DAH have always been suspects from what I understand.

 

[chaplain1]

I just wanted to make this clear---------->. The B-brother tapes are real. I've read throughout WS forums that there's a lot of speculation on whether of not they were fake. No, they were really interviewed, and at one point, when MB was being recorded, she was wearing a wire while a cop from Wilmer was there, and a private detective. They were in another part of the house.

It's also been published in several areas that the b-brother and LK information was a "Hoax" created by DM to get reward money. There was no reward money, and if there was she didn't know about it. Also, she spent her own time, and her own money over a period of years doing in depth research, investigating, and accumulating documents. I've spent a lot of time with her on the phone, and I wouldn't waste time talking to a "nut". She didn't do this for reward money, and her main purpose was to bring this to the attention to LE. However LE never followed up on the rest of the information, and never told the Bahners they had a recording of them saying they were involved when they interviewed them.

The b-brothers could not have been fully investigated, because LE only saw a portion of the information...a very small portion. DM has conveyed this to them on more than one occasion.

Recently I conveyed this to LE, and I urged them to get to her home to look at the rest. She's not going to haul 5 storage containers to them.

The Bahners are crude, uncivilized people who would never, ever be picked by powerful people to do their bidding. Never, ever, ever, never--what powerful person pays incestuous, alcoholic brothers to pull off the perfect crime? If the Bahner had done this, they would have found the body the next day in their trailer.

 

[Sasquatch321]

Hollinger, DR, and DAH have always been suspects from what I understand.

So if Hollinger or Dah were before 2003, what happens when you take away their suspected tire tracks? Suddenly you can't put them there.

 

[chaplain1]

So if Hollinger or Dah were before 2003, what happens when you take away their suspected tire tracks? Suddenly you can't put them there.

You know, Sas. This isn't Columbo or Ancient Greece.

 

[chaplain1]

Simonsez, thank you!!! I feel like I'm losing my mind sometimes. Maybe that's the idea -- baffle them with bull$hit for the duration. What's the duration? Forever, if possible.

Who has been cleared by le?

DAH
MF
VS
LR
Bahners

 

[Sasquatch321]

You know, Sas. This isn't Columbo or Ancient Greece.

I don't get that, I believe I've made a good point here.