MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #16

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  • #361
DR complained that the Fox 9 interview comment was taken out of context/spliced and diced. Who knows.
 
  • #362
The famous quote by DR---

Trish Van Pilsum: "Why would you go to bed when a kid had just
disappeared."

The Man: "I wanted to get some sleep . I wasn't going to waste my
time."

Oh he's definitely a knucklehead but he didn't do it.
 
  • #363
  • #364
His callous disregard combined with keeping mementos is a strange mix
 
  • #365
I just happened to notice this on the interviews with DR.

News reporters don't necessarily get things accurate.
Although disturbing hearing two different versions, I still don't think he did it.

Too bad the crime scene was so contaminated!
 
  • #366
The euphemism could be #1 or #2 or both. "in code" could mean both or either/or. As for the driver of the "proven" tracks...they never did identify him....at least as far as we know...his tracks were never publicly identified until 'Kevin' came forward. Think beyond.

When you say, "Think beyond," do you mean that you think you have special insider information that you're waiting for me to grasp, or...?

When I ask how they ruled out the driver of the "proven" vehicle(which I put in quotes because I think it's even more dubious than I think Kevin's story is), I'm talking about the guy who called the cops in 2004(2005?) and said he was that vehicle's driver, and that he'd been a college student driving around(right by someone's private property?) looking for things to sketch.

Did the cops just say, "Well! That clears things right up," or did they investigate this man and and his story like they should have?

"In code" definitely could mean either/or, and that they're afraid of revealing which...it looks(to me at least) like they almost have to be thinking it's one or the other of those two possibilities(either there was another vehicle on site, or else, the perp was the only man who could arrive and leave on foot - D.R.).

I think it was another car. D.R. does have familiarity and physical fitness on his side - but, he doesn't have a husky build, and I just don't see why he'd do it(especially at such a stupidly obvious time and location).

That said, I trust him about as much as I trust Kevin...what the heck is a "medical cop," and why would anyone who is one identify himself as such to a civilian who's asking him questions? And why did Kevin's story change?

I don't suspect Kevin of abducting Jacob in any way/shape/form, but his story seems to me to have, "I'm a fabricated witness," stamped all over it(either that, or, "I feel like I have to come up with some wild story, since I was there.").
 
  • #367
When you say, "Think beyond," do you mean that you think you have special insider information that you're waiting for me to grasp, or...?

When I ask how they ruled out the driver of the "proven" vehicle(which I put in quotes because I think it's even more dubious than I think Kevin's story is), I'm talking about the guy who called the cops in 2004(2005?) and said he was that vehicle's driver, and that he'd been a college student driving around(right by someone's private property?) looking for things to sketch.

Did the cops just say, "Well! That clears things right up," or did they investigate this man and and his story like they should have?

"In code" definitely could mean either/or, and that they're afraid of revealing which...it looks(to me at least) they almost have to be thinking it's one or the other of those two possibilities(either there was another vehicle on site, or else, the perp was the only man who could arrive and leave on foot - D.R.).

I think it was another car. D.R. does have familiarity and physical fitness on his side - but, he doesn't have a husky build, and I just don't see why he'd do it(especially at such a stupidly obvious time and location).

That said, I trust him about as much as I trust Kevin...what the heck is a "medical cop," and why would anyone who is one identify himself as such to a civilian who's asking him questions? And why did Kevin's story change?

I don't suspect Kevin of abducting Jacob in any way/shape/form, but his story seems to me to have, "I'm a fabricated witness," stamped all over it(either that, or, "I feel like I have to come up with some wild story, since I was there.")

1. kevin exists, Joy met with him and lots of people know his name.

2. The art student who was sketching said it was he who was there within days--- that is in Oct 1989, not 2004
 
  • #368
Emeraldine--- Eloc has written a book. It Can't Happen Here. It is on Amazon and has lots and lots of facts with documentation. It would really help with the timeline and lots of the players in this case.
 
  • #369
1. kevin exists, Joy met with him and lots of people know his name.

2. The art student who was sketching said it was he who was there within days--- that is in Oct 1989, not 2004

I know Kevin exists...I just don't know what to think about him or his story.

The art student was there in 1989, but I think he didn't call the cops to say so until 2004.
 
  • #370
Emeraldine--- Eloc has written a book. It Can't Happen Here. It is on Amazon and has lots and lots of facts with documentation. It would really help with the timeline and lots of the players in this case.

It would help, but it's not in my budget right now. I'd still like to participate in the discussion, though.
 
  • #371
I know Kevin exists...I just don't know what to think about him or his story.

The art student was there in 1989, but I think he didn't call the cops to say so until 2004.

He said he was the one right away.
 
  • #372
It would help, but it's not in my budget right now. I'd still like to participate in the discussion, though.

There are case facts somewhere . I think a special section of WS. Can someone point us in that direction please?
 
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  • #374
The first page of every thread.


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  • #375
This could be incorrect, but:

https://lightingtheirwayhome.wordpr...tober-22-1989-usmcc000001-updated-05-04-2013/

From this page:

'One lead that authorities had hoped would pan out was a witness reporting having seen a car nearby where the abduction took place on the day that Jacob was taken, which quickly became the focus of the investigation. However, in 2004, more than 10 years after Jacob’s disappearance, the car was identified after the owner came forward to police when he learnt that they were looking for his vehicle. The owner was questioned and subsequently cleared of any involvement of Jacob’s abduction. The man turned out to have been a college student at the time who was driving around the area looking for things to sketch. Authorities now state that they believe Jacob’s abductor was on foot.'

I wonder how they cleared that man?
 
  • #376
This could be incorrect, but:

https://lightingtheirwayhome.wordpr...tober-22-1989-usmcc000001-updated-05-04-2013/

From this page:

'One lead that authorities had hoped would pan out was a witness reporting having seen a car nearby where the abduction took place on the day that Jacob was taken, which quickly became the focus of the investigation. However, in 2004, more than 10 years after Jacob’s disappearance, the car was identified after the owner came forward to police when he learnt that they were looking for his vehicle. The owner was questioned and subsequently cleared of any involvement of Jacob’s abduction. The man turned out to have been a college student at the time who was driving around the area looking for things to sketch. Authorities now state that they believe Jacob’s abductor was on foot.'

I wonder how they cleared that man?

I believe,that is incorrect.

There was a small red car and that student was identified right away.
 
  • #377
The small red car was the art student - or, at least, he told LE he thought it was him. I don't think the information about various cars in the area was released right away...maybe someone else was identified at that time?

Of course, there was also a maroon car, according to what I've heard over the years...I wonder if THAT driver is identified yet(I've found nothing on it).

What a mess. I get the impression sometimes that the perp could only have materialized from thin air.
 
  • #378
The small red car was the art student - or, at least, he told LE he thought it was him. I don't think the information about various cars in the area was released right away...maybe someone else was identified at that time?

Of course, there was also a maroon car, according to what I've heard over the years...I wonder if THAT driver is identified yet(I've found nothing on it).

What a mess. I get the impression sometimes that the perp could only have materialized from thin air.

I've also heard about a maroon car.

When will LE nail this monster/monsters??? It's such a terrible tragedy! Hopefully they have some new investigators on this case, and they have the energy and out of the box thinking to get the monster put away! Meanwhile whoever did this is probably hurting more kids!! :(
 
  • #379
The small red car was the art student - or, at least, he told LE he thought it was him. I don't think the information about various cars in the area was released right away...maybe someone else was identified at that time?

Of course, there was also a maroon car, according to what I've heard over the years...I wonder if THAT driver is identified yet(I've found nothing on it).

What a mess. I get the impression sometimes that the perp could only have materialized from thin air.

I think the 2004 car is referring to Kevin as it says the search turned to someone on foot. So that would be Kevin. I think that info is totally wrong in that article.
 
  • #380
Agreed, the small red car in the beginning was an art student in the area looking for things to sketch. Kevin came forward in Oct. 2003 and his story was publicized in 2004 after LE had verified it. Two different guys with cars.
 
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