MN - Justine Damond, 40, fatally shot by Minneapolis LE, 15 July 2017 #2

[Elley Mae]

Does that have anything to do with a woman shot by police? Really, anything?

I don't think in this case it does, but i would think they are elimanating the possibility, or i would hope so anyway. It would serve the procsecution well to know Justine was not on any medications or had been drinking.

I want Noor to pay for what he did.

 

[Karinna]

Who ordered the SW's?

 

[Karinna]

@ Jennifer, Could you please check your quote feature. When you quote a post you will notice they are in a blue box and yours aren't doing that TIA.

 

[Karinna]

Create civilian-led state agency to investigate police shootings
The best way to earn the public’s trust and ease community fears is a statewide solution that serves the investigatory needs of all law-enforcement agencies.
WHEN people are killed at the hands of law enforcement, the public can and should pursue the causes. We must have confidence that investigations of such incidents are consistently fair, thorough and independent.
http://www.seattletimes.com/opinion...state-agency-to-investigate-police-shootings/

 

[turaj]

No, they are not helping the victim by invading her privacy with a search warrant. She is dead. They are doing that for their own purposes. If they find no drugs. she is innocent? If she was affected by drugs they would be in her body.
And if they did find drugs in her home, but not in her body, does that mean that she was guilty of something, even though there were no drugs in her body?
I really don't get how people are saying this was helping the victim. She was not helped. She is dead. She is not on trial and any help she may have needed is long gone. There is no reason to search her house other than to benefit the person who killed her.

i think maybe the person to decide who is helping who and evaluate the methods being used is Don Damond and his attorney. You can be sure that if they do not agree with the search or any other procedures or lack thereof we will hear that from them when they are free to talk Until then probably best left to them.

 

[turaj]

Thanks for your reply. Yeah i have no idea if this is normal in such a circumstance? Maybe a lawyer would know?

a lawyer back many posts gave the reasoning which made perfect sense for the search. Many would be complaining if they did not do the searches and I have seen in cases defendants walking because not everything was done and reasonable doubt was left. I think if the family is okay with it I am until I hear that they are not.

 

[turaj]

I am pretty sure that no lawyer for the victims family would think it is ok to search the victims house and not the shooters house.

does anyone here know for a fact that they have not searched Noor's house? I don't think we do.

 

[turaj]

Toxology test take 4-6 weeks for results, maybe they want the answer to what may be in her system now.

they have got preliminary results and pretty much know what is happening...final can take time but I really feel given the international pressure here I believe results are going to be faster.

 

[Karinna]

I agree if the families of Justine Damond have issue with anything they have a lawyer to sort things out with and don't think it's really any of our business.
From the post & link i posted previously there will be litigation against the state so they will have everything on record to pursue a lawsuit.

 

[turaj]

this is a very interesting video---they reacted the drive through the alley at the same time of night---looks pretty dark and remote---much more so than I thought:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4716288/Justine-Damond-didn-t-die-says-Chief-Harteau.html



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...says-Chief-Harteau.html#v-5502219274268591815

I watched the video....she was shot just as they were exiting the alley...light right in that area...for me I don't see that as being a situation where you cannot tell approximately what you are dealing with . You can bet if this goes to a jury they will do a field trip at same time of night and do this ride.

 

[Karinna]

From my understanding it was the BCA that issued the warrant to search. From the little bits of info. from the warrant it sounds in part like an incident report from when Justine "slapped the police vehicle". It was also an evidence collection of items taken from the scene. It also states no weapon/gun was found near her. I think because Justine was close to her home when this happened they also checked her home for any evidence as well. In other words the evidence trail was from her home to where she was shot. The BCA report was compiled about 7 hrs. after the shooting, with written record of any evidence found that led to this tragedy.

 

[human]

IMHO - If Justine was a person of color I don't think her death would be treated any different.

Really? People are upset that her house was searched but people were digging into Castile's life. Was there front page news of the little sleeping girl shot by LE? How about the Edwards teen? There was a thread on WS about him but hardly any comments. How about the Native man? What is his name ? Bearears is it? How many comments on here ? Is he front page news?

The difference is glaring.

 

[Elley Mae]

I would think that after the shooting that the home was checked for others there to notify them to what had happened. Also finding no one there possible the door was not locked, (assuming). Possible they entered the home verifing no one was present. I can't imagine they would not go to the home.

 

[bluesneakers]

Really? People are upset that her house was searched but people were digging into Castile's life. Was there front page news of the little sleeping girl shot by LE? How about the Edwards teen? There was a thread on WS avout him, harsly any comments. How avout the Native man? What is his name ? Bearears is it? How many comments on here ? Is he front page news?

The difference is glaring.

Zachary Bearheels.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ill-mentally-ill-Native-man-Zachary-Bearheels

 

[turaj]

Really? People are upset that her house was searched but people were digging into Castile's life. Was there front page news of the little sleeping girl shot by LE? How about the Edwards teen? There was a thread on WS avout him, harsly any comments. How avout the Native man? What is his name ? Bearears is it? How many comments on here ? Is he front page news?

The difference is glaring.

Unfortunately I believe Human is correct...in fact so correct I anticipate a backlash here in Minneapolis if Noor is charge and convicted....so far with the black victims this has not happened and that is "glaring".

 

[human]

You know that Australians aren't angry over that? How do you know that? You are making this into an Australian versus US some kind of competition. Yes, Australia has had problem with how Aborigines are treated, as all countries have had with a black minority. What is your point? Australia is worse than the US so that woman's family can't complain? I don't get where you are coming from.

I am coming from the outrage aimed at the US . I do not support the killing of Justine by LE.

I sense a posturing of ," How could this happen? In Australia , this kind of thing would never happen. America is a pariah."

Yes, America is a horror show with its violence, but Australia has so much horror of its own,

As most people in the US do not hear news of Australia, they would not know of the brutality that exists for certain immigrants and the native people.

The natives of Australia have an incarceration rate percentage wise far greater than the rest of the population. Same type of statistics as the US.

People of color are shot and it is expected. No big deal. But now when a white woman is shot and even better, by a black man, there is an international outrage. It is glaring

 

[human]

Unfortunately I believe Human is correct...in fact so correct I anticipate a backlash here in Minneapolis if Noor is charge and convicted....so far with the black victims this has not happened and that is "glaring".

I hope that if he is convicted that there is no backlash. It seems like BLM is supporting Justine. I hope more whites will start having some insight to the difficulties of being black in America.

 

[human]

Zachary Bearheels.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ill-mentally-ill-Native-man-Zachary-Bearheels

I am sorry I called him Bearears. Bearheels. His name . No front page news. If it wasn't for Honeywest posting on here, who would have ever heard of him?

 

[turaj]

I hope that if he is convicted that there is no backlash. It seems like BLM is supporting Justine. I hope more whites will start having some insight to the difficulties of being black in America.

About one year ago I was called to jury duty in Hennepin County (Minneapolis) and got on a case involving a man who was picked up on the north side for jaywalking and because he would not give his name a gun was drawn within seconds....it ended up settling but after the judge was kind enough to speak with interested jurors about this case and similar and basically if that man had been white he would not have been picked up for jaywalking. That experience really opened my eyes and also some of my fellow jurors were so insightful and I learned a lot from them. I actually think the backlash could be from our Somali population rather than the BLM.

 

[human]

About one year ago I was called to jury duty in Hennepin County (Minneapolis) and got on a case involving a man who was picked up on the north side for jaywalking and because he would not give his name a gun was drawn within seconds....it ended up settling but after the judge was kind enough to speak with interested jurors about this case and similar and basically if that man had been white he would not have been picked up for jaywalking. That experience really opened my eyes and also some of my fellow jurors were so insightful and I learned a lot from them. I actually think the backlash could be from our Somali population rather than the BLM.

Amazing post. You and the judge.