MN - Justine Damond, 40, fatally shot by Minneapolis LE, 15 July 2017 #2

[K_Z]

You asked, we answered: The charges against Mohamed Noor

The facts of this case virtually screamed murder or manslaughter. What on earth accounts for the delay in bringing charges?

Is the City now responsible because they ‘ fast tracked’ this officer onto the police force? And why would we ‘ fast track’ anyone into any profession?

Noor graduated in 2015 from the city’s accelerated police cadet program. The seven-month training is a quicker, nontraditional route to policing aimed at helping those who already have a college degree enter law enforcement, experts say. Some law enforcement professionals say the cadet program and others like it are exactly what policing needs — a way to attract more diverse people with broader life experiences. The Minneapolis Police Department has struggled in recent years with a shrinking pool of applicants for job openings. A pension change that spurred a wave of retirements among peace officers statewide in 2014 dropped Minneapolis police ranks to their lowest total in nearly 30 years, and the department was faced with hiring nearly 100 officers.

If the Damond family files a wrongful-death lawsuit, the city of Minneapolis could be named as a defendant.

Why was Mohamed Noor allowed to “not” make a statement? I understand that he had that right with investigators, but not with his employer. If he also refused to make a statement to his employer (which could not be used against him in court), why was he not fired for that transgression?

I am curious how these charges align with other charges relating to deaths by MPD. What happened with Jamar Clark? How do know Justine wasn’t dangerous? Mentally ill? Potentially carrying a weapon? Did anything happen with the reported rape? … Office Noor and Hannity both feared for their lives. That’s enough right? ... What did the Police Union say about Clark’s death?

Now that the Minneapolis PD has finally fired officer Noor, did they give him separation money? Has the family of the victim already filed a lawsuit against the city of Minneapolis and the Minneapolis PD?

http://www.startribune.com/you-asked-we-answered-the-charges-against-mohamed-noor/477672403/

BBM. Answers to the above at the link, along with a new pic of MN after posting bail.

 

[K_Z]

Well here comes the race card, right on time.

"The Somali-American Police Association defended Noor in a statement Wednesday, saying the charges against him are "baseless and politically motivated, if not racially motivated as well." The group said it believes Noor "acted in good faith and in accordance with his department's policy."

BBM. Yes, race and ethnicity of the officer and victim are a huge, huge part of this case. It shouldn't be, but it is.

I would argue that it became a big part of this case *because* the previous mayor assertively and affirmatively singled out and emphasized MN's ethnicity and race for a huge celebratory event. That behavior on the part of the previous mayor then placed enormous expectations and pressures on the entire department, the previous police chief, as well as MN and the somali community, IMO. It was unquestionably the wrong thing to do by the previous mayor, IMO.

Another quote:

A Muslim woman who attended the court said the system had failed the former officer because of his religion and ethnicity.

“Mohamed Noor is an immigrant African-American Muslim,” she said.

“He’s got so many strikes. He killed a white woman, that’s why he is there today. The system failed Mohamed Noor.”

Hennepin County Assistant Attorney Amy Sweasy argued for a high bail amount because she said Mr Noor posed “a risk of non-appearance”.

She said investigators feared he had fled the country in the months after Ms Ruszczyk’s death.

“There were concerns in the fall that Mr Noor had left the country or the jurisdiction,” she said, adding that she had spoken to a witness who “offered to hide him out”.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...l/news-story/46c3ee0826f9eddec3af92b1450c379a

 

[kittycat3]

In my opinion, the answer is YES, a big YES. The streets will be somewhat safer without him patrolling them, unless they hire more diversity just to show how inclusive they are. Take a good look at this second pic down. It scared the hell out of me. This is not someone I would want to see pulling me over, not someone I could trust.
https://news.sky.com/story/justine-damond-murder-us-policeman-mohamed-noor-charged-11298665

Noor is no longer a cop. He should never be allowed to be a cop again, and besides no PD would hire him. That being said I don’t think he is a danger to society as a civilian.

 

[PrairieWind]

The statement by the Somali American Police Association is infuriating. And now the police union may challenge Noor's firing. I'm not sure the MPD even did an actual internal investigation, another disaster in this whole affair. Justice for Justine is unfortunately far far down the list of priorities in this political mess. Have fun with all of that Minneapolis.

 

[K_Z]

The statement by the Somali American Police Association is infuriating. And now the police union may challenge Noor's firing. I'm not sure the MPD even did an actual internal investigation, another disaster in this whole affair. Justice for Justine is unfortunately far far down the list of priorities in this political mess. Have fun with all of that Minneapolis.

Here is a link to the full press release from the Somali American Police Association.

http://somaliamericanpa.org/news-posts/press-release/

The very existence of this group, based only on race and ethnicity, is deeply troubling, IMO. It is not representative of the concept of "justice is blind", or inclusiveness, fairness, or non-discrimination.

I don't support *any* group of publicly funded government employees, politicians, or administrators that bases membership and their mission on racial or ethnic identity.

I feel the same way about groups like the Scandinavian American Fire and Police Association. These kind of groups counterproductive to the goals of a democratic society, IMO, and the public is confused as to their proper role in society, which is intentionally blurred with their public service charge.

These kind of groups only further the divisions in our society, and encourage partisan, ethnic, and racial "tribalism". There are many, many other cultural appreciation groups that public employees and servants can join if they want to support various ethnic and racial groups.

Noor appears, IMO, to have been fired based on his non-cooperation with giving a statement to internal investigations. Chief Arradondo said as much in articles describing how Noor does have a right to remain silent with regard to criminal investigation by BCA, but silence is not a shield for employer based internal affairs investigations. Such non-cooperation is a basis for firing. He just withheld firing Noor until the decision was made about charges.

And while on administrative leave, MN collected his salary for an additional 8 months. Hope he put much of that in savings, because I doubt he will be able to get and hold any kind of job during the likely 1 year long process of bringing him to trial.

I'm curious and can't locate-- does anyone know if Officer Harrity has been returned to full duty? It seems reasonable that he was, after a period of admin leave and investigation. I hope he has been.

 

[turaj]

Glad t hey finally brought charges but sad that one of the reasons it took so long is a lack of police cooperation...most would not talk and had to be subpoened.

 

[Jax49]

[h=1]The Justine Damond shooting: A look at the complaint against former officer Noor[/h]
http://www.startribune.com/the-just...plaint-against-former-officer-noor/478430643/

[FONT=&quot]Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman recently announced two charges against former Minneapolis police officer Mohamed Noor, relating to the late-night shooting last summer of Justine Damond. The charges generated a flash of attention around the world, much of it concerning the racial context of the Noor case and two other recent police killing cases in Minnesota.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]The complaint filed by Freeman asserts two charges: third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. It is significant but understandable that Freeman did not elect to charge first- or second-degree murder. Either would have required the government to prove that Noor intended to kill Damond with his literal “shot in the dark.”[/FONT]

 

[Bohemian]

Thanks for all of the updates and excellent commentary on Justine’s case everyone x
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OT I’ve been otherwise engaged for a long time so there’s a lot to catch up on. (bbl no doubt!)

 

[Bohemian]

Justine Ruszczyk shooter to plead not guilty to murder and manslaughter charges
9news.com.au
8:14am Apr 26, 2018

‘The US police officer who shot dead Australian woman Justine Ruszczyk plans to plead not guilty to murder and manslaughter charges.

According to court documents filed on Wednesday in Minneapolis, Mohamed Noor intends to use self-defence and reasonable force in his defences, The Star Tribune reports.

The Rule 9 disclosure document, signed by Noor’s attorney Thomas Plunkett, did not elaborate further.’

To read more, click on the headline (above).

 

[kittycat3]

Interesting development.....

 

[grammieto5]

Self-defense, two guys sitting inside of a car, both with guns, he's in the passenger side and he needs to defend himself against a woman on the outside of the car on the driver's side? WOW!

 

[jjenny]

Self-defense, two guys sitting inside of a car, both with guns, he's in the passenger side and he needs to defend himself against a woman on the outside of the car on the driver's side? WOW!

I don't think he even saw who he was shooting at, just shot at whoever approached the car.

 

[GeeButtersnaps]

I don't think he even saw who he was shooting at, just shot at whoever approached the car.

Which is so much worse smh


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[Rocco]

http://www.valleynewslive.com/conte...tralian-woman-appears-in-court-482065291.html

Ex-officer who killed Australian woman appears in court

 

[Bohemian]

Vigil to be held for Sydney woman Justine Ruszczyk shot dead in the U.S by a police officer
Robbie Patterson, Manly Daily
July 13, 2018 12:00am

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

 

[MyBelle]

Vigil to be held for Sydney woman Justine Ruszczyk shot dead in the U.S by a police officer
Robbie Patterson, Manly Daily
July 13, 2018 12:00am

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

Such a peaceful and thoughtful tribute. Hard to believe it has been a year.

 

[Bohemian]

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph
Justine Damond’s family to file US civil lawsuit
Staff writer, AAP, News Corp Australia Network
July 23, 2018 7:29am

‘THE family of Australian life coach Justine Damond Ruszczyk, who was shot dead by a Minneapolis police officer, will file a civil lawsuit in the US.

If successful, the lawsuit could result in a multimillion-dollar payout to her family.

The family’s lawyer, Bob Bennett, a specialist in representing victims of police shootings in Minnesota, is expected to file the civil rights complaint in the US Federal Court in Minneapolis today.’

 

[Jax49]

Justine Damond's family files suit seeking over $50M in damages from Minneapolis

"The lawsuit was filed Monday. In it, Damond's father, John Ruszczyk, claims the defendants committed acts and omissions that violated the 4th and 14th Amendments, which deal with unreasonable searches and seizures and depriving people of life, liberty or property.

The family is seeking damages in excess of $50 million from named defendants former Minneapolis police officer Mohamed Noor, officer Matthew Harrity, former Minneapolis Police Chief Janee Harteau, current Police Chief Medaria Arradondo, and the city of Minneapolis, according to the complaint."

 

[2Hope4]

WOW!

 

[KaaBoom]

Justine Damond's family files suit seeking over $50M in damages from Minneapolis

"The lawsuit was filed Monday. In it, Damond's father, John Ruszczyk, claims the defendants committed acts and omissions that violated the 4th and 14th Amendments, which deal with unreasonable searches and seizures and depriving people of life, liberty or property.

The family is seeking damages in excess of $50 million from named defendants former Minneapolis police officer Mohamed Noor, officer Matthew Harrity, former Minneapolis Police Chief Janee Harteau, current Police Chief Medaria Arradondo, and the city of Minneapolis, according to the complaint."

It's not nearly enough. It should be $50 billion. Anything less than that, is no deterrent. The city will just pay it, and go on with business as usual.